W2k3 Auth failed with KRB5KDC_ERR_ETYPE_NOSUPP when using DES

We are authenticating users on AD server 2k3, and the users are setup in AD to use DES (checked "Use DES encryption types for this account" in user properties).
It failed somehow with ETYPE_NOSUPP. From the packet capture, I can find KRB5 AS-REQ contains des-cbc-crc/des-cbc-md5/des-cbc-md4 as encryption types.
This is the request:
++++++++++ REQUEST ++++++++++++++++
Kerberos AS-REQ
Pvno: 5
MSG Type: AS-REQ (10)
padata: PA-ENC-TIMESTAMP
Type: PA-ENC-TIMESTAMP (2)
Value: 303ba003020117a2340432482d36ca7556ebf719421fc8b4... rc4-hmac
Encryption type: rc4-hmac (23)
enc PA_ENC_TIMESTAMP: 482d36ca7556ebf719421fc8b4530cfea187d35318fd63bd...
KDC_REQ_BODY
Padding: 0
KDCOptions: 00000010 (Renewable OK)
.0.. .... .... .... .... .... .... .... = Forwardable: Do NOT use forwardable tickets
..0. .... .... .... .... .... .... .... = Forwarded: This is NOT a forwarded ticket
...0 .... .... .... .... .... .... .... = Proxiable: Do NOT use proxiable tickets
.... 0... .... .... .... .... .... .... = Proxy: This ticket has NOT been proxied
.... .0.. .... .... .... .... .... .... = Allow Postdate: We do NOT allow the ticket to be postdated
.... ..0. .... .... .... .... .... .... = Postdated: This ticket is NOT postdated
.... .... 0... .... .... .... .... .... = Renewable: This ticket is NOT renewable
.... .... ...0 .... .... .... .... .... = Opt HW Auth: False
.... .... .... ..0. .... .... .... .... = Constrained Delegation: This is a normal request (no constrained delegation)
.... .... .... ...0 .... .... .... .... = Canonicalize: This is NOT a canonicalized ticket request
.... .... .... .... .... .... ..0. .... = Disable Transited Check: Transited checking is NOT disabled
.... .... .... .... .... .... ...1 .... = Renewable OK: We accept RENEWED tickets
.... .... .... .... .... .... .... 0... = Enc-Tkt-in-Skey: Do NOT encrypt the tkt inside the skey
.... .... .... .... .... .... .... ..0. = Renew: This is NOT a request to renew a ticket
.... .... .... .... .... .... .... ...0 = Validate: This is NOT a request to validate a postdated ticket
Client Name (Principal): test
Name-type: Principal (1)
Name: test
Realm: SRV.MYTESTSERVER.LOC
Server Name (Unknown): krbtgt/SRV.MYTESTSERVER.LOC
Name-type: Unknown (0)
Name: krbtgt
Name: FP.DEREKTESTING.COM
from: 2011-04-07 08:10:06 (UTC)
till: 2011-04-08 08:10:06 (UTC)
Nonce: 1302163806
Encryption Types: aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96 aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96 des3-cbc-sha1 rc4-hmac des-cbc-crc des-cbc-md5 des-cbc-md4
Encryption type: aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96 (18)
Encryption type: aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96 (17)
Encryption type: des3-cbc-sha1 (16)
Encryption type: rc4-hmac (23)
Encryption type: des-cbc-crc (1)
Encryption type: des-cbc-md5 (3)
Encryption type: des-cbc-md4 (2)
++++++++++ REQUEST ++++++++++++++++
And this is the response:
++++++++++ RESPONSE ++++++++++++++++
Kerberos KRB-ERROR
Pvno: 5
MSG Type: KRB-ERROR (30)
stime: 2011-04-07 08:10:06 (UTC)
susec: 247525
error_code: KRB5KDC_ERR_ETYPE_NOSUPP (14)
Realm: SRV.MYTESTSERVER.LOC
Server Name (Unknown): krbtgt/SRV.MYTESTSERVER.LOC
Name-type: Unknown (0)
Name: krbtgt
Name: SRV.MYTESTSERVER.LOC
e-data
padata: PA-ENCTYPE-INFO
Type: PA-ENCTYPE-INFO (11)
Value: 30443020a003020103a119041746502e444552454b544553... des-cbc-md5 des-cbc-crc
Encryption type: des-cbc-md5 (3)
Salt: 46502e444552454b54455354494e472e434f4d6a69616e
Encryption type: des-cbc-crc (1)
Salt: 46502e444552454b54455354494e472e434f4d6a69616e
++++++++++ RESPONSE ++++++++++++++++
What could have possibly gone wrong? I also tried to reset the passwords of administrator and the user and restart the kdc services. It didn't help.
Thanks.

I am not sure, the exact behaviour must be specified somewhere, but I was not able to find any precise documentation on the topic. It may be, that the DC preferes AES if allowed by the client and it may colide with the setting on the user account.
Anyway, why do you use the checkbox at all? If you wanted to enforce DES, you could have enabled the "System Cryptography: Use FIPS compliant algorithms for encryption, hashing and siging" policy which would switch the whole environment to DES or AES automatically.
The user account setting is meant to only those accounts that are used by non-windows services IMHO.
ondrej.

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