Weblogic and mod_wls_ohs re-authenticate issue

Hello there,
I got the following scenario (all software 11.1.1.6):
WEBCACHE:80 > OHS:7777 > WLS:7001
I have this little issue: every time I update something on the weblogic console, and activate the change (by clicking on "Activete changes"), it leads me to the login page again.
This happens when I configure the weblogic to be accessed through mod_wls_ohs plugin only.
I've just enabled the debug feature on the module and here is the log output, thanks in advance:
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8760-03:00 <295813431558621> Matched ELSE clause, calling update
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8760-03:00 <295813431558621> Matched ELSE clause, calling update
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8760-03:00 <35111343159917124> ================New Request: [POST http://myhost.mydomain/console/console.portal HTTP/1.1] =================
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8761-03:00 <35111343159917124> Using Uri /console/console.portal
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8761-03:00 <35111343159917124> After trimming path: '/console/console.portal'
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8761-03:00 <35111343159917124> The final request string is '/console/console.portal'
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8761-03:00 <35111343159917124> SEARCHING id=[myhost.mydomain:7001] from current ID=[myhost.mydomain:7001]
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8761-03:00 <35111343159917124> The two ids matched
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8761-03:00 <35111343159917124> @@@FOUND...id=[myhost.mydomain:7001], server_name=[myhost.mydomain], server_port=[80]
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8761-03:00 <35111343159917124> Going to get the post data of size=478 clength=0
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8763-03:00 <35111343159917124> attempt #0 out of a max of 5
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8764-03:00 <35111343159917124> keepAlive = 1, canRecycle = 1
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8764-03:00 <35111343159917124> Trying a pooled connection for '192.168.1.1/7001/7001'
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8764-03:00 <35111343159917124> getPooledConn: found a host and port/securePort match
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8764-03:00 <35111343159917124> getPooledConn: found a pooled connection: 192.168.1.1[7001]
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8764-03:00 <35111343159917124> getConnection: Obtained a pooled URL object. The state = 1
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8764-03:00 <35111343159917124> got a pooled connection to server '192.168.1.1/7001/7001' from general list for '/console/console.portal', Local port:49621
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8764-03:00 <35111343159917124> Entering method BaseProxy::sendRequest
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8764-03:00 <35111343159917124> Entering method BaseProxy::parse_headers
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8764-03:00 <35111343159917124> No of headers =19
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8765-03:00 <35111343159917124> Exiting method BaseProxy::parse_headers
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8765-03:00 <35111343159917124> parse_client_headers is done
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8765-03:00 <35111343159917124> Method is POST
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8765-03:00 <35111343159917124> Post data length: 478 (in memory)
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8765-03:00 <35111343159917124> About to call parseHeaders
2012-07-24T16:58:37.8766-03:00 <35111343159917124> Reader::fill(): first=0 last=0 toRead=4096
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7173-03:00 <35111343159917124> Reader::fill(): sysRecv returned 413
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7173-03:00 <35111343159917124> URL::parseHeaders: CompleteStatusLine set to [HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily]
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7173-03:00 <35111343159917124> URL::parseHeaders: StatusLine set to [302 Moved Temporarily]
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7173-03:00 <35111343159917124> URL::parseHeaders: StatusLineWithoutStatusCode set to [Moved Temporarily]
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7173-03:00 <35111343159917124> parsed all headers OK
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7174-03:00 <35111343159917124> Exiting method BaseProxy::sendRequest
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7174-03:00 <35111343159917124> sendResponse() : r->status = '302'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7174-03:00 <35111343159917124> Reader::fill(): first=0 last=0 toRead=4096
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7175-03:00 <35111343159917124> Reader::fill(): sysRecv returned 363
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7176-03:00 <35111343159917124> Reader::fill(): first=0 last=0 toRead=4096
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7179-03:00 <35111343159917124> Reader::fill(): sysRecv returned 8
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7180-03:00 <35111343159917124> calling closeConn() with non-null URL* at 633
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7180-03:00 <35111343159917124> canRecycle: conn=1 status=302 isKA=0 clen=-1 isCTE=1
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7180-03:00 <35111343159917124> closeConn: URL.canRecycle() returns false, deleting URL '192.168.1.1/7001'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7180-03:00 <35111343159917124> request [/console/console.portal] processed successfully..................
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7186-03:00 <295813431558621> BEFORE acquire_lock
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7187-03:00 <295813431558621> AFTER acquire_lock
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7187-03:00 <295813431558621> List size is 1
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7187-03:00 <295813431558621> Cleaning up the list node 'myhost.mydomain:7001'list Length '1'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7247-03:00 <295813431558621> Matched ELSE clause, calling update
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7247-03:00 <295813431558621> Matched ELSE clause, calling update
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7248-03:00 <35111343159925125> ================New Request: [GET http://myhost.mydomain/console/login/LoginForm.jsp HTTP/1.1] =================
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7249-03:00 <35111343159925125> Using Uri /console/login/LoginForm.jsp
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7249-03:00 <35111343159925125> After trimming path: '/console/login/LoginForm.jsp'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7249-03:00 <35111343159925125> The final request string is '/console/login/LoginForm.jsp'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7250-03:00 <35111343159925125> SEARCHING id=[myhost.mydomain:7001] from current ID=[myhost.mydomain:7001]
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7250-03:00 <35111343159925125> The two ids matched
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7250-03:00 <35111343159925125> @@@FOUND...id=[myhost.mydomain:7001], server_name=[myhost.mydomain], server_port=[80]
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7251-03:00 <35111343159925125> attempt #0 out of a max of 5
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7251-03:00 <35111343159925125> keepAlive = 1, canRecycle = 1
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7251-03:00 <35111343159925125> Trying a pooled connection for '192.168.1.1/7001/7001'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7252-03:00 <35111343159925125> getPooledConn: found a host and port/securePort match
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7252-03:00 <35111343159925125> getPooledConn: No more connections in the pool for Host[192.168.1.1] Port[7001] SecurePort[7001]
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7252-03:00 <35111343159925125> general list: trying connect to '192.168.1.1'/7001/7001 at line 2372 for '/console/login/LoginForm.jsp'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7255-03:00 <35111343159925125> URL::Connect: Connected successfully
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7255-03:00 <35111343159925125> SSL is not configured for this connection
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7255-03:00 <35111343159925125> Local Port of the socket is 49646
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7256-03:00 <35111343159925125> Remote Host 192.168.1.1 Remote Port 49646
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7256-03:00 <35111343159925125> general list: created a new connection to '192.168.1.1'/7001 for '/console/login/LoginForm.jsp', Local port:49646
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7256-03:00 <35111343159925125> Entering method BaseProxy::sendRequest
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7257-03:00 <35111343159925125> Entering method BaseProxy::parse_headers
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7257-03:00 <35111343159925125> No of headers =16
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7260-03:00 <35111343159925125> Exiting method BaseProxy::parse_headers
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7260-03:00 <35111343159925125> parse_client_headers is done
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7261-03:00 <35111343159925125> Method is GET
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7265-03:00 <35111343159925125> About to call parseHeaders
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7266-03:00 <35111343159925125> Reader::fill(): first=0 last=0 toRead=4096
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7309-03:00 <35111343159925125> Reader::fill(): sysRecv returned 291
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7309-03:00 <35111343159925125> URL::parseHeaders: CompleteStatusLine set to [HTTP/1.1 200 OK]
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7309-03:00 <35111343159925125> URL::parseHeaders: StatusLine set to [200 OK]
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7309-03:00 <35111343159925125> URL::parseHeaders: StatusLineWithoutStatusCode set to [OK]
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7310-03:00 <35111343159925125> parsed all headers OK
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7310-03:00 <35111343159925125> Exiting method BaseProxy::sendRequest
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7310-03:00 <35111343159925125> sendResponse() : r->status = '200'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7310-03:00 <35111343159925125> Reader::fill(): first=0 last=0 toRead=4096
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7311-03:00 <35111343159925125> Reader::fill(): sysRecv returned 3161
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7311-03:00 <35111343159925125> calling closeConn() with non-null URL* at 633
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7312-03:00 <35111343159925125> canRecycle: conn=1 status=200 isKA=1 clen=3161 isCTE=0
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7312-03:00 <35111343159925125> closeConn: pooling for '192.168.1.1/7001'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7312-03:00 <35111343159925125> closeConn: pooling '0'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7312-03:00 <35111343159925125> request [/console/login/LoginForm.jsp] processed successfully..................
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7318-03:00 <295813431558621> BEFORE acquire_lock
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7318-03:00 <295813431558621> AFTER acquire_lock
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7318-03:00 <295813431558621> List size is 1
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7319-03:00 <295813431558621> Cleaning up the list node 'myhost.mydomain:7001'list Length '1'
2012-07-24T16:58:45.7319-03:00 <295813431558621> stale connections: KA = 20, delta = 0

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===== FULL THREAD DUMP ===============
Tue May 8 10:04:58 2012
Oracle JRockit(R) R28.1.3-11-141760-1.6.0_24-20110301-1430-linux-ia32
"Main Thread" id=1 idx=0x4 tid=9341 prio=5 alive, waiting, native_blocked
-- Waiting for notification on: weblogic/t3/srvr/SubsystemRequest@0x9f81d3c0[fat lock]
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
at syncWaitForSignal+157(synchronization.c:85)@0xb7ee7dbe
at syncWaitForJavaSignal+53(synchronization.c:93)@0xb7ee7ea6
at RJNI_jrockit_vm_Threads_waitForNotifySignal+53(rnithreads.c:72)@0xb7eb78a6
at jrockit/vm/Threads.waitForNotifySignal(JLjava/lang/Object;)Z(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(J)V(Native Method)
at weblogic/t3/srvr/SubsystemRequest.rendezvouz(SubsystemRequest.java:100)
^-- Lock released while waiting: weblogic/t3/srvr/SubsystemRequest@0x9f81d3c0[fat lock]
at weblogic/t3/srvr/SubsystemRequest.action(SubsystemRequest.java:81)
at weblogic/t3/srvr/SubsystemRequest.start(SubsystemRequest.java:51)
at weblogic/t3/srvr/ServerServicesManager.startService(ServerServicesManager.java:459)
at weblogic/t3/srvr/ServerServicesManager.startInStandbyState(ServerServicesManager.java:166)
^-- Holding lock: java/lang/Class@0x9fa95598[biased lock]
at weblogic/t3/srvr/T3Srvr.initializeStandby(T3Srvr.java:879)
at weblogic/t3/srvr/T3Srvr.startup(T3Srvr.java:566)
at weblogic/t3/srvr/T3Srvr.run(T3Srvr.java:467)
at weblogic/Server.main(Server.java:71)
at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
-- end of trace
"(Signal Handler)" id=2 idx=0x8 tid=9342 prio=5 alive, native_blocked, daemon
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at sigiSignalHandlerThread+135(signalhandler.c:131)@0xb7ec2fd8
at thread_stub+146(lifecycle.c:808)@0xb7e2c333
at start_thread+225(:0)@0x515832
at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"(OC Main Thread)" id=3 idx=0xc tid=9343 prio=5 alive, native_waiting, daemon
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
at innerNativeDoWait+894(nativelock.c:614)@0xb7e78caf
at nativeWait+71(nativelock.c:721)@0xb7e79008
at ocMainThread+663(gcthreads.c:581)@0xb7d8a098
at thread_stub+146(lifecycle.c:808)@0xb7e2c333
at start_thread+225(:0)@0x515832
at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"(GC Worker Thread 1)" id=? idx=0x10 tid=9344 prio=5 alive, daemon
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at eventTimedWaitNoTransition+62(event.c:72)@0xb7d6bb3f
at eventWaitNoTransition+32(event.c:62)@0xb7d6bc31
at mmGCWorkerThread+134(gcthreads.c:797)@0xb7d89d67
at thread_stub+146(lifecycle.c:808)@0xb7e2c333
at start_thread+225(:0)@0x515832
at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"(GC Worker Thread 2)" id=? idx=0x14 tid=9345 prio=5 alive, daemon
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at eventTimedWaitNoTransition+62(event.c:72)@0xb7d6bb3f
at eventWaitNoTransition+32(event.c:62)@0xb7d6bc31
at mmGCWorkerThread+134(gcthreads.c:797)@0xb7d89d67
at thread_stub+146(lifecycle.c:808)@0xb7e2c333
at start_thread+225(:0)@0x515832
at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"(Code Generation Thread 1)" id=4 idx=0x18 tid=9348 prio=5 alive, native_waiting, daemon
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
at innerNativeDoWait+894(nativelock.c:614)@0xb7e78caf
at nativeWait+71(nativelock.c:721)@0xb7e79008
at cg_thread+380(compilerqueue.c:203)@0xb7d4be5d
at thread_stub+146(lifecycle.c:808)@0xb7e2c333
at start_thread+225(:0)@0x515832
at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"(Code Optimization Thread 1)" id=5 idx=0x1c tid=9349 prio=5 alive, native_waiting, daemon
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
at innerNativeDoWait+894(nativelock.c:614)@0xb7e78caf
at nativeWait+71(nativelock.c:721)@0xb7e79008
at cg_thread+380(compilerqueue.c:203)@0xb7d4be5d
at thread_stub+146(lifecycle.c:808)@0xb7e2c333
at start_thread+225(:0)@0x515832
at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"(VM Periodic Task)" id=6 idx=0x20 tid=9350 prio=10 alive, native_blocked, daemon
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at block_for_safepoint+106(safepoint.c:34)@0xb7ebad5b
at eventTimedWait+239(event.c:83)@0xb7d6bd30
at periodic_task_thread+627(periodictask.c:367)@0xb7e90dd4
at thread_stub+146(lifecycle.c:808)@0xb7e2c333
at start_thread+225(:0)@0x515832
at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"Finalizer" id=7 idx=0x24 tid=9351 prio=8 alive, native_waiting, daemon
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
at innerNativeDoWait+894(nativelock.c:614)@0xb7e78caf
at nativeWait+71(nativelock.c:721)@0xb7e79008
at RJNI_jrockit_memory_Finalizer_waitForFinalizees+211(finalhandles.c:1007)@0xb7d751f4
at jrockit/memory/Finalizer.waitForFinalizees(J[Ljava/lang/Object;)I(Native Method)
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    at java/lang/Thread.run(Thread.java:662)
    at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
    -- end of trace
"Reference Handler" id=8 idx=0x28 tid=9352 prio=10 alive, native_waiting, daemon
    at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
    at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
    at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
    at innerNativeDoWait+894(nativelock.c:614)@0xb7e78caf
    at nativeUnlockAndWait+71(nativelock.c:686)@0xb7e790a8
    at RJNI_java_lang_ref_Reference_waitForActivatedQueue+38(semiref.c:342)@0xb7ebd9b7
    at java/lang/ref/Reference.waitForActivatedQueue(J)Ljava/lang/ref/Reference;(Native Method)
    at java/lang/ref/Reference.access$100(Reference.java:11)
    at java/lang/ref/Reference$ReferenceHandler.run(Reference.java:82)
    at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
    -- end of trace
"(Sensor Event Thread)" id=9 idx=0x2c tid=9353 prio=5 alive, native_blocked, daemon
    at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
    at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
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    at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"VM JFR Buffer Thread" id=10 idx=0x30 tid=9354 prio=5 alive, in native, daemon
    at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
    at bufferthread+2135(vmjfr.c:1008)@0xb71744b8
    at run_agent_thread+128(jvmtithreads.c:524)@0xb7e1f361
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    at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"Timer-0" id=13 idx=0x34 tid=9358 prio=5 alive, waiting, native_blocked, daemon
    -- Waiting for notification on: java/util/TaskQueue@0x9f9fc350[fat lock]
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
at syncWaitForSignal+157(synchronization.c:85)@0xb7ee7dbe
at syncWaitForJavaSignal+53(synchronization.c:93)@0xb7ee7ea6
at RJNI_jrockit_vm_Threads_waitForNotifySignal+53(rnithreads.c:72)@0xb7eb78a6
at jrockit/vm/Threads.waitForNotifySignal(JLjava/lang/Object;)Z(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(J)V(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(Object.java:485)
at java/util/TimerThread.mainLoop(Timer.java:483)
^-- Lock released while waiting: java/util/TaskQueue@0x9f9fc350[fat lock]
at java/util/TimerThread.run(Timer.java:462)
at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
-- end of trace
"Timer-1" id=14 idx=0x38 tid=9363 prio=5 alive, waiting, native_blocked, daemon
-- Waiting for notification on: java/util/TaskQueue@0xa20ee240[fat lock]
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at jrockit/vm/Threads.waitForNotifySignal(JLjava/lang/Object;)Z(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(J)V(Native Method)
at java/util/TimerThread.mainLoop(Timer.java:509)
^-- Lock released while waiting: java/util/TaskQueue@0xa20ee240[fat lock]
at java/util/TimerThread.run(Timer.java:462)
at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
-- end of trace
"[ACTIVE] ExecuteThread: '0' for queue: 'weblogic.kernel.Default (self-tuning)'" id=15 idx=0x3c tid=9364 prio=5 alive, waiting, native_blocked, daemon
-- Waiting for notification on: netscape/ldap/LDAPResponseListener@0x9724f0c8[fat lock]
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
at syncWaitForSignal+157(synchronization.c:85)@0xb7ee7dbe
at syncWaitForJavaSignal+53(synchronization.c:93)@0xb7ee7ea6
at RJNI_jrockit_vm_Threads_waitForNotifySignal+53(rnithreads.c:72)@0xb7eb78a6
at jrockit/vm/Threads.waitForNotifySignal(JLjava/lang/Object;)Z(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(J)V(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(Object.java:485)
at netscape/ldap/LDAPMessageQueue.waitForMessage(LDAPMessageQueue.java:200)
^-- Lock released while waiting: netscape/ldap/LDAPResponseListener@0x9724f0c8[recursive]
at netscape/ldap/LDAPMessageQueue.waitFirstMessage(LDAPMessageQueue.java:101)
^-- Lock released while waiting: netscape/ldap/LDAPResponseListener@0x9724f0c8[fat lock]
at netscape/ldap/LDAPConnection.sendRequest(LDAPConnection.java:1796)
^-- Holding lock: netscape/ldap/LDAPConnection@0x9721f310[biased lock]
at netscape/ldap/LDAPConnection.simpleBind(LDAPConnection.java:1763)
at netscape/ldap/LDAPConnection.authenticate(LDAPConnection.java:1264)
at netscape/ldap/LDAPConnection.authenticate(LDAPConnection.java:1273)
at netscape/ldap/LDAPConnection.bind(LDAPConnection.java:1562)
at weblogic/security/providers/authentication/LDAPAtnDelegate$LDAPFactory.newInstance(LDAPAtnDelegate.java:4134)
at weblogic/security/utils/Pool.newInstance(Pool.java:37)
at weblogic/security/utils/Pool.getInstance(Pool.java:33)
at weblogic/security/providers/authentication/LDAPAtnDelegate.getConnection(LDAPAtnDelegate.java:3478)
at weblogic/security/providers/authentication/LDAPAtnDelegate.getConnection(LDAPAtnDelegate.java:3470)
at weblogic/security/providers/authentication/LDAPAtnDelegate.authenticate(LDAPAtnDelegate.java:3522)
at weblogic/security/providers/authentication/LDAPAtnLoginModuleImpl.login(LDAPAtnLoginModuleImpl.java:227)
at com/bea/common/security/internal/service/LoginModuleWrapper$1.run(LoginModuleWrapper.java:110)
at jrockit/vm/AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:254)
at jrockit/vm/AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:268)
at com/bea/common/security/internal/service/LoginModuleWrapper.login(LoginModuleWrapper.java:106)
at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
at jrockit/vm/Reflect.invokeMethod(Ljava/lang/Object;Ljava/lang/Object;[Ljava/lang/Object;)Ljava/lang/Object;(Native Method)
    at sun/reflect/NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Ljava/lang/reflect/Method;Ljava/lang/Object;[Ljava/lang/Object;)Ljava/lang/Object;(Native Method)
    at sun/reflect/NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
    at sun/reflect/DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
    at java/lang/reflect/Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
    at javax/security/auth/login/LoginContext.invoke(LoginContext.java:769)
    at javax/security/auth/login/LoginContext.access$000(LoginContext.java:186)
    at javax/security/auth/login/LoginContext$4.run(LoginContext.java:683)
    at jrockit/vm/AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:254)
    at jrockit/vm/AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:268)
    at javax/security/auth/login/LoginContext.invokePriv(LoginContext.java:680)
    at javax/security/auth/login/LoginContext.login(LoginContext.java:579)
    at com/bea/common/security/internal/service/JAASLoginServiceImpl.login(JAASLoginServiceImpl.java:113)
    at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
    at jrockit/vm/Reflect.invokeMethod(Ljava/lang/Object;Ljava/lang/Object;[Ljava/lang/Object;)Ljava/lang/Object;(Native Method)
    at sun/reflect/NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Ljava/lang/reflect/Method;Ljava/lang/Object;[Ljava/lang/Object;)Ljava/lang/Object;(Native Method)
    at sun/reflect/NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
    at sun/reflect/DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
    at java/lang/reflect/Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
    at com/bea/common/security/internal/utils/Delegator$ProxyInvocationHandler.invoke(Delegator.java:57)
    at $Proxy28.login(Ljava/lang/String;Ljavax/security/auth/callback/CallbackHandler;Lweblogic/security/service/ContextHandler;)Lcom/bea/common/security/service/Identity;(Unknown Source)
    at weblogic/security/service/internal/WLSJAASLoginServiceImpl$ServiceImpl.login(WLSJAASLoginServiceImpl.java:89)
    at com/bea/common/security/internal/service/JAASAuthenticationServiceImpl.authenticate(JAASAuthenticationServiceImpl.java:82)
    at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
    at jrockit/vm/Reflect.invokeMethod(Ljava/lang/Object;Ljava/lang/Object;[Ljava/lang/Object;)Ljava/lang/Object;(Native Method)
    at sun/reflect/NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Ljava/lang/reflect/Method;Ljava/lang/Object;[Ljava/lang/Object;)Ljava/lang/Object;(Native Method)
    at sun/reflect/NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
    at sun/reflect/DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
    at java/lang/reflect/Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
    at com/bea/common/security/internal/utils/Delegator$ProxyInvocationHandler.invoke(Delegator.java:57)
    at $Proxy46.authenticate(Ljavax/security/auth/callback/CallbackHandler;Lweblogic/security/service/ContextHandler;)Lcom/bea/common/security/service/Identity;(Unknown Source)
    at weblogic/security/service/WLSJAASAuthenticationServiceWrapper.authenticate(WLSJAASAuthenticationServiceWrapper.java:40)
    at weblogic/security/service/PrincipalAuthenticator.authenticate(PrincipalAuthenticator.java:348)
    at weblogic/security/service/CommonSecurityServiceManagerDelegateImpl.doBootAuthorization(CommonSecurityServiceManagerDelegateImpl.java:929)
    at weblogic/security/service/CommonSecurityServiceManagerDelegateImpl.initialize(CommonSecurityServiceManagerDelegateImpl.java:1050)
    at weblogic/security/service/SecurityServiceManager.initialize(SecurityServiceManager.java:873)
    at weblogic/security/SecurityService.start(SecurityService.java:141)
    at weblogic/t3/srvr/SubsystemRequest.run(SubsystemRequest.java:64)
    at weblogic/work/ExecuteThread.execute(ExecuteThread.java:207)
    at weblogic/work/ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:176)
    at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
    -- end of trace
"JFR request timer" id=16 idx=0x40 tid=9365 prio=5 alive, waiting, native_blocked, daemon
    -- Waiting for notification on: java/util/TaskQueue@0xa2049280[fat lock]
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
at syncWaitForSignal+157(synchronization.c:85)@0xb7ee7dbe
at syncWaitForJavaSignal+53(synchronization.c:93)@0xb7ee7ea6
at RJNI_jrockit_vm_Threads_waitForNotifySignal+53(rnithreads.c:72)@0xb7eb78a6
at jrockit/vm/Threads.waitForNotifySignal(JLjava/lang/Object;)Z(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(J)V(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(Object.java:485)
at java/util/TimerThread.mainLoop(Timer.java:483)
^-- Lock released while waiting: java/util/TaskQueue@0xa2049280[fat lock]
at java/util/TimerThread.run(Timer.java:462)
at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
-- end of trace
"weblogic.time.TimeEventGenerator" id=18 idx=0x44 tid=9366 prio=9 alive, waiting, native_blocked, daemon
-- Waiting for notification on: weblogic/time/common/internal/TimeTable@0xa2089c70[fat lock]
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at jrockit/vm/Threads.waitForNotifySignal(JLjava/lang/Object;)Z(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(J)V(Native Method)
at weblogic/time/common/internal/TimeTable.snooze(TimeTable.java:286)
^-- Lock released while waiting: weblogic/time/common/internal/TimeTable@0xa2089c70[fat lock]
at weblogic/time/common/internal/TimeEventGenerator.run(TimeEventGenerator.java:117)
at java/lang/Thread.run(Thread.java:662)
at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
-- end of trace
"JMAPI event thread" id=19 idx=0x48 tid=9367 prio=5 alive, in native, daemon
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at eventTimedWaitNoTransitionImpl+79(event.c:90)@0xb7d6bae0
at syncWaitForSignalNoTransition+81(synchronization.c:28)@0xb7ee7c62
at innerNativeDoWait+526(nativelock.c:614)@0xb7e78b3f
at nlMonitorWaitInner+79(nativelock.c:1112)@0xb7e78df0
at nlMonitorWaitNoTransition+38(nativelock.c:1132)@0xb7e78e47
at nativeRawMonitorWait+78(rawmonitor.c:161)@0xb7ea8caf
at jvmti_RawMonitorWait+111(jvmtirawmonitors.c:95)@0xb7e1b420
at threadProc+291(jmapi.c:305)@0x90452bd4
at run_agent_thread+128(jvmtithreads.c:524)@0xb7e1f361
at thread_stub+146(lifecycle.c:808)@0xb7e2c333
at start_thread+225(:0)@0x515832
at __clone+93(:0)@0x46ae0e
"weblogic.timers.TimerThread" id=20 idx=0x4c tid=9368 prio=9 alive, waiting, native_blocked, daemon
-- Waiting for notification on: weblogic/timers/internal/TimerThread@0xa203dbf0[fat lock]
at <unknown>(???.c)@0xb7fe9410
at jrockit/vm/Threads.waitForNotifySignal(JLjava/lang/Object;)Z(Native Method)
at java/lang/Object.wait(J)V(Native Method)
at weblogic/timers/internal/TimerThread$Thread.run(TimerThread.java:262)
^-- Lock released while waiting: weblogic/timers/internal/TimerThread@0xa203dbf0[fat lock]
at jrockit/vm/RNI.c2java(IIIII)V(Native Method)
-- end of trace

Weblogic and siteminder

Hi, I am using SiteMinder to authenticate a user to a web service deployed in a war file in weblogic 7.0 server. SiteMinder does a HTTP Basic authentication and allows the user to invoke the service. But, Weblogic also tries to authenticate the user id.
Is there a way to stop weblogic from trying to authenticate the user? It does not work unless I create a user in the default realm.
Any help in this regard is appreciated.
Thanks,
David

David <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, I am using SiteMinder to authenticate a user to a web service deployed
in a war file in weblogic 7.0 server. SiteMinder does a HTTP Basic authentication
and allows the user to invoke the service. But, Weblogic also tries
to authenticate the user id.
Is there a way to stop weblogic from trying to authenticate the user?
It does not work unless I create a user in the default realm.
Any help in this regard is appreciated.
Thanks,
DavidIt sounds like an issue in your asa agent configuration.

JMS with weblogic and jdeveloper IDE

HI,
I am a newbie to jms..could anyone provide me a sample tutorial to test and deploy a sample jms application using weblogic and jdeveloper IDE.
Thanks,
Amy
Edited by: 838667 on Feb 22, 2011 2:50 AM

...I have a strong feeling this is a TIBCO-related issue where you're not doing the lookup the way TIBCO likes.

Mule, Weblogic and MQ JMS : deadlock problem

Dear Oracle community,
We are hosting our Mule ESB (3.1) application on a Weblogic 10.3 (11g) server and are using IBM Websphere MQ's JMS solution (with libraries version 7.0.1.7).
The problem we are facing is that JMS connections are created by one of Weblogic's worker (thread) and the close() method for those connections are not necessarily called by the same thread.
This is bad because from what I know this behavior is undefined from JMS specification
(see http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E15051_01/wls/docs103/jms/design_best_practices.html#wp1061413 ) and it is a blocker issue in our case because this lead to a deadlock.
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Thanks in advance for your help,
Best regards,
Y.
PS : I've already posted this question on Mule ESB's forum : http://forum.mulesoft.org/mulesoft/topics/mule_weblogic_and_mq_jms_deadlock_problem
Edited by: user7428803 on May 14, 2012 2:26 PM

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* The JMS specification specifically requires that JMS providers support the ability to call connection.close() and session.close() from an arbitrary thread even when another thread is making calls on these objects. It furthermore goes into some detail about the expected behavior of these calls. The best practices link you cited alludes to this: "The JMS Specification states that multi-threading a session, producer, consumer, or message method results in undefined behavior +except when calling close().+"
* Depending on your use case, you may not need to use Mule to integrate MQ with WebLogic. WebLogic supports a variety of options for integrating MQ directly without the use of third party tooling. See http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17904_01/web.1111/e13727/interop.htm .
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OS user ids for weblogic and OBIEE11g

Hello Experts
One of our client asked us whether we should use the same OS user credentials OR different for installing weblogic and OBIEE11g on AIX server. If yes why , If no then why.
I know that we need to install weblogic first and then OBIEE11g - SOFTWARE ONLY .
Also if could provide the link for the step by step installation /configuration of weblogic and obiee 11g on AIX 7.1.
Thanks

894860 wrote:
Hello Experts
One of our client asked us whether we should use the same OS user credentials OR different for installing weblogic and OBIEE11g on AIX server. If yes why , If no then why.
I know that we need to install weblogic first and then OBIEE11g - SOFTWARE ONLY .
Also if could provide the link for the step by step installation /configuration of weblogic and obiee 11g on AIX 7.1.
ThanksRefer to this link for instructions on installation: http://satyaobieesolutions.blogspot.in/2012/08/obiee-installation-on-aix-obiee-11g.html
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Weblogic and websphere colocated?

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Thanks in advance.

Web sphere has a wide robust features which weblogic lacks some. Like the load balancing and admin console, clustering .
In Weblogic In many cases, code for applications deployed on WebLogic Server is arbitrarily structured and depends on the build process to make sense of it all. The implication of this is that existing code organization will very likely have to be changed as part of the migration effort. This may be very difficult (or even impossible) to accomplish while maintaining links to your code's history. Some organizations choose simply to archive their history and start fresh.
In WebSphere, Packaged with each module is an XML deployment descriptor that describes the organization of the components in the module and how they are configured at run time. hence applications can be migrated easily.

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Basically, I have a project that generates one jar file that WebLogic points
to. I have JSP's that use classes in that jar file. I am trying to figure
out how I can configure WebLogic and/or VisualCafe so that I can step
through the code running on WebLogic when I call the JSP's. I played around
with the remote debugging but could not seem to get it working. Any help
would be appreciated.

Hi ,
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Adobe contact information - http://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html may help

What is difference between Weblogic and OSB

Hi,
The title says it all.
What is the difference between Oracle WebLogic and Oracle Service Bus?
Assuming both products are part of the Oracle strategy, when would I use each product?
I am really struggling as I cannot find a link with this information.
Many thanks
Jason

Jason,
Weblogic is application server. Service Bus is a product which runs on top of Weblogic.
You can find plenty information about both products on the web.
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Milan

B1 8.8 and Crystal Reports datasource issues

Hello everyone,
the HowTo on using CR with 8.8 recommends the SAP B1 Datasource type for reports.
In our setup this datasource type does not work (logon failed message after entering credentials) while OLE (ADO DB) does.
SAP B1 Datasource type would be of great help to our report designers due to annotated tables.
We were not able to trace what is going wrong i.e. we found no more detailed error msgs.
Is there any documentation on the B1 datasource type and how to investigate issues with it?
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Edited by: Wolfram Richter on Nov 9, 2010 2:01 PM

Strange, very strange...
I've done a little test in our setup. Trying to connect to our SBO 8.8 server, I selected the SBO server, the license server and the database type, leaving the credentials blank. Opening the list with companies, it showed all companies.
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My MacBook Pro 13" (2012) is running Windows 7 on Bootcamp and there is an issue with the headset I'm using.

My MacBook Pro 13" (2012) is running Windows 7 on Bootcamp and there is an issue with the headset I'm using. I use a cheap Logitech Stereo Headset H130, but since there is only on audio plugin on the computer, I purchased a 3.5 mm 4-pin smartphone audio adapter thingy. That allowed me to put both my the sound coming to my headset & the microphone on my headset onto one wire. Everything worked wonderfully when running the Mac OS since they probably have support for that kind of stuff. The problem is though that once I try to use the same method in Windows 7, the OS doesn't recognize my headset microphone at all, but, instead when recording my voice decides to use the built-in mac microphone. Using this adapter still allows me to hear from my headset, but not use the microphone and that becomes a problem. It might be so that Windows 7 doesn't have support\drivers for that... How should I continue from here on out? Any advice?

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Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is the correct forum between SharePoint and SkyDrive as the issue is related to an update on SkyDrive Pro.
premise SharePoint 2013 installation (migrated from 2010) and Office 2013 installed. SharePoint is patched up to the latest CU. Syncing documents from SharePoint worked fine until KB2817495 was installed. The syncing still seems to work but we cannot add
any new libraries, either directly from the browser using the "sync" button or adding the URL to "Sync a new library". I've tested it with an Office 365 account and the libraries add fine so I'm not sure whether it's a SkyDrive or SharePoint
issue. If I uninstall the update then I can successfully sync new libraries from our on-premise installation.
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Hi
anuxps ,
Yammer already have Single Sign On with Office 365, but SharePoint Server for on-premise does not follow a 90-day release cycle and it won’t yet. Also we are looking for Yammer integration with on-premise
soon. There are improvements coming.
Reference:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/a6ecdee4-ac28-4989-929b-0e6c9968732e/yammer-sharepoint-onprem-integration?forum=sharepointgeneral
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I purchased a season of a TV show from itunes and it won't go onto my ipad, i've purchased several seasons in the past and never had this issue, how can i fix this?

I purchased a season of a TV show from itunes and it won't go onto my ipad, i've purchased several seasons in the past and never had this issue, how can i fix this?

Drew how is that even possible? I use gift cards all the time, any time I've had insufficient funds iTunes will not allow the purchase, sights Insufficient funds and rejects the purchase. Any time I log into my account the money in that account appears in the upper left corner. If you're not seeing that then you have other issues. Anyway... Kneil is right you should be able to rip CDs you own to your iTunes library (regardless of your money matters with iTunes), then depending on how you set up the music you need to add it to your playlist and then sync it to your iPod. Did imported music ever work? How are you ripping or importing the music to iTunes? Are you using a compatible format?
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Sorry if any of this has already been covered in other threads...
Has anyone had a chance to thoroughly test the 6.04 version of iMovie (download version if you install iLife 08) and know what compatibility issues there are?
I.E. How well does iPhoto 08 play with iMovie 06, or iMovie 06 with iDVD 08. Are the third party plugins problematic with v6.04?
From what I saw at the Apple store, iPhoto08 and iDVD08 would be the only apps that I would really want since iMovie08 seems to be a step backwards and iWeb is still lacking in everything that I wanted improved. But I don't want to waste the money to discover all sorts of "gotchas" with trying to get iMovie06 to play nice with the rest of iLife08...
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...and a lot of us feel like this is the thing we're going to be stuck with going forward.
I keep thinking that something else is going to happen, because this can't be right. I think this diver/video engineer who came up with this concept is suffering from the bends.
Apple doesn't need the money, (as in making us buy Final Cut Pro for decent video editing), trust me, so I don't understand why it would take the PR hit.
iMovie '08 spoofs are already on YouTube, etc.
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