Weblogic's redirect and Local Director session stikiness.

Hi all,
We've been facing a very painfull problem in my company. Basically, it relates
to the fact that weblogic 'uselessly' makes a redirect to index.jsp everytime
somebody tries to reach our website.
The redirect itselve is bad, but when we have Local Director configured in front
of our farm, with stickness enabled, the damn think locks for 3+ seconds before
sending the also weird '0000' characters (that I suppose, indicate the page or
transaction was completed). This 0000 comes from Weblogic itself (we notice it
sends that even when we are not behind local director). We are also expiriencing
some premature session timeoffs... very weird.
Did anybody even configured WL 6.1 SP2 as the main webserver under a local director,
and faced the same problem? We are desperate here.
Thanks,
Rodrigo

One other thing ... using URL with openConnection we found that we had to
end-pad the stream with two additional bytes (ignored) to get the full
message committed. Could be the same freaky thing.
Peace,
Cameron Purdy
Tangosol, Inc.
Clustering Weblogic? You're either using Coherence, or you should be!
Download a Tangosol Coherence eval today at http://www.tangosol.com/
"Rodrigo Rosa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hi all,
We've been facing a very painfull problem in my company. Basically, itrelates
to the fact that weblogic 'uselessly' makes a redirect to index.jspeverytime
somebody tries to reach our website.
The redirect itselve is bad, but when we have Local Director configured infront
of our farm, with stickness enabled, the damn think locks for 3+ secondsbefore
sending the also weird '0000' characters (that I suppose, indicate thepage or
transaction was completed). This 0000 comes from Weblogic itself (wenotice it
sends that even when we are not behind local director). We are alsoexpiriencing
some premature session timeoffs... very weird.
Did anybody even configured WL 6.1 SP2 as the main webserver under a localdirector,
and faced the same problem? We are desperate here.
Thanks,
Rodrigo

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Hi all,
We've been facing a very painfull problem in my company. Basically, it relates
to the fact that weblogic 'uselessly' makes a redirect to index.jsp everytime
somebody tries to reach our website.
The redirect itselve is bad, but when we have Local Director configured in front
of our farm, with stickness enabled, the damn think locks for 3+ seconds before
sending the also weird '0000' characters (that I suppose, indicate the page or
transaction was completed). This 0000 comes from Weblogic itself (we notice it
sends that even when we are not behind local director). We are also expiriencing
some premature session timeoffs... very weird.
Did anybody even configured WL 6.1 SP2 as the main webserver under a local director,
and faced the same problem? We are desperate here.
Thanks,
Rodrigo

One other thing ... using URL with openConnection we found that we had to
end-pad the stream with two additional bytes (ignored) to get the full
message committed. Could be the same freaky thing.
Peace,
Cameron Purdy
Tangosol, Inc.
Clustering Weblogic? You're either using Coherence, or you should be!
Download a Tangosol Coherence eval today at http://www.tangosol.com/
"Rodrigo Rosa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3c5f0dcb$[email protected]..
>
Hi all,
We've been facing a very painfull problem in my company. Basically, itrelates
to the fact that weblogic 'uselessly' makes a redirect to index.jspeverytime
somebody tries to reach our website.
The redirect itselve is bad, but when we have Local Director configured infront
of our farm, with stickness enabled, the damn think locks for 3+ secondsbefore
sending the also weird '0000' characters (that I suppose, indicate thepage or
transaction was completed). This 0000 comes from Weblogic itself (wenotice it
sends that even when we are not behind local director). We are alsoexpiriencing
some premature session timeoffs... very weird.
Did anybody even configured WL 6.1 SP2 as the main webserver under a localdirector,
and faced the same problem? We are desperate here.
Thanks,
Rodrigo

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Hi all,
We've been facing a very painfull problem in my company. Basically, it relates
to the fact that weblogic 'uselessly' makes a redirect to index.jsp everytime
somebody tries to reach our website.
The redirect itselve is bad, but when we have Local Director configured in front
of our farm, with stickness enabled, the damn think locks for 3+ seconds before
sending the also weird '0000' characters (that I suppose, indicate the page or
transaction was completed). This 0000 comes from Weblogic itself (we notice it
sends that even when we are not behind local director). We are also expiriencing
some premature session timeoffs... very weird.
Did anybody even configured WL 6.1 SP2 as the main webserver under a local director,
and faced the same problem? We are desperate here.
Thanks,
Rodrigo

One other thing ... using URL with openConnection we found that we had to
end-pad the stream with two additional bytes (ignored) to get the full
message committed. Could be the same freaky thing.
Peace,
Cameron Purdy
Tangosol, Inc.
Clustering Weblogic? You're either using Coherence, or you should be!
Download a Tangosol Coherence eval today at http://www.tangosol.com/
"Rodrigo Rosa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3c5f0dcb$[email protected]..
>
Hi all,
We've been facing a very painfull problem in my company. Basically, itrelates
to the fact that weblogic 'uselessly' makes a redirect to index.jspeverytime
somebody tries to reach our website.
The redirect itselve is bad, but when we have Local Director configured infront
of our farm, with stickness enabled, the damn think locks for 3+ secondsbefore
sending the also weird '0000' characters (that I suppose, indicate thepage or
transaction was completed). This 0000 comes from Weblogic itself (wenotice it
sends that even when we are not behind local director). We are alsoexpiriencing
some premature session timeoffs... very weird.
Did anybody even configured WL 6.1 SP2 as the main webserver under a localdirector,
and faced the same problem? We are desperate here.
Thanks,
Rodrigo

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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iworksw/ps2769/products_maintenance_guide_chapter09186a008007d9fa.html#xtocid225795
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Hi, just wondering if anyone has successfully implemented HTTP
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Since there has been no response to your post, it appears to be either too complex or too rare an issue for other forum members to assist you. If you don't get a suitable response to your post, you may wish to review our resources at the online Technical Assistance Center (http://www.cisco.com/tac) or speak with a TAC engineer. You can open a TAC case online at http://www.cisco.com/tac/caseopen
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Lincoln wrote:
I have been doing some research on iPlanet performance tuning. In our
current production environment (iAS6.0 SP1B, iWS4.1 SP2 on Solaris), since
we don't use clustering there should be a couple of performance improvements
we can make immediately:
1. Use lite sessions (<session-impl>lite</session-impl> in ias-web.xml) - I
believe that if you use lite sessions, the session data is stored in the kjs
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it will provide a performance improvement by reducing kxs/kjs communication.
2. Use local ServletContexts (<distributable>false</distributable> in
web.xml) - This should cause the ServletContext to only be stored in the
originating JVM. So again, if a kjs dies, the user will lose their
ServletContext but again we will get a performance improvement by reducing
kxs/kjs communcation.
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effect our production environment if we use this configuration. Right now
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registered and therefore sticky load balancing cannot always be trusted to
return users to the iAS they came from. We make up for this by using
hardware load balancing that keeps the majority of our users sticky.
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think that means that we can safely switch to lite sessions and local
ServletContexts, but if not, I think many users will lose their sessions.
Thanks,
Linc

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[email protected]
415.887.9106

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