When I can reuse Business and Technical Systems in IR and ID

Assuming the case(1 scenario) when I already created All SLD object Business System , technical system, SWC and product for interface scenario when file is send from R/3 MM module(Outbound) to XI through File adapter and than mapped and send to 3 party partner via firewall ftp server... All SLD object exists and are created.
In a different scenario(2 Scenario) the 3 party partner will have to send via XI some MM related data and XI will have to feed this data into R/3 via different type adapter – this time Idoc adapter(Inbound)
My questions are:
1)In 2 scenario - Can I use same already created 2 Business systems for both R/3 and 3 party partner or I need to create new ones?
Or at lease can use one of the business systems. With words – is the Business system dependable on type of adapter, inbound/outbound ?What is the criteria for reusing business system for second scenario?
2)In 2 scenario -Can I use same already created Technical systems for both R/3 and 3 party partner or I need to create new ones?
Same questions here...for technical system - can I reuse it and when I need newone...
Thanks all
Regards
Jon

1. If u r posting data to the same R/3 with same client then u can use same WebAS ABAP Business System. U can use same third party business system for this.
The criteria for reuse is just that if the systems are same (in case of R/3 - the clients should be same), then u should reuse it.
2.Only 1 Technical system is created for one R3 system. This will be of type WebAS ABAP. So u will have to use same Technical system for both the scenario
For 3rd party case, u can use different technical system, but that would be redundant. So better to use one.
Regards,
Prateek

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Can One Business system have two technical systems assigned to it

Can One Business system have two technical systems assigned to it

hi,
the technical system describes the physical view and the business system the logical view, respectively.
So in most cases you must define both but while a technical system can only link to one WEB AS, more than one business systems can link to the same technical system.
But one Business System can have only one technical system.
Logical system for senders and receivers in XI can be defined as business systems which is associated with technical systems. You may req to create BS for identifying individual senders and recievers. Technical system is gateway having the technical details and it is in the ID we designate it to be either a sender or a receiver.
Follow the link below to learn moer on it:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/97/9d84494b9f45caabe0713296d89b72/content.htm
Regards
Mamta
Edited by: Mamta Yadav on Sep 12, 2008 11:13 AM

Technical System error

Hi,
When I am going to create Technical System. Then this error is coming. "CIM_ERR_ALREADY_EXISTS:Instance already exists." But it was not visible in the system?
Regads,
Ansar.

Hi Ansar,
Your question is very clear.Can you cross check once again after you read this information.
The Message your getting is not Error it is saying as the Technical System name is already Exist.
Better you cross check once by doing the following way.
1)Go To Filters and give our Technical System Name to identify the availity of TS.
2)Is there any TS wiht the same name would be populated so you can cross check in such way.
I Guess after you done in the above way you will be in position to see your TS.
Thanks and Regards,
Chandu

Incorrect Technical System Assigmnet to Bussines System.

I create a bussines system DES210_DEV in the SLD to work with technical
systems of type ABAP, it was working fine
but i delete the technnical that was associated to the bussines system
DES210_DEV and after
that the list box of the technnical system assignment only display
third party types. It looks
like the the bussines system had changed the type of technnical systems
that i can assign. And i can
no longer assing ABAP types to that bussines system, that is what i
need.
Thanks in Adnvanced.-

Hi,
First go to your Business ststema and click on the technical system . Check this technical system (web as ABAP) is avaible or not..if deleted create the technical system..(web as ABAP) after created the technical system..again go to your business system and click on the technical system you will see the what you deleted....
What technical system you deleted...r u deleted technical system for XI server or R/3 system...If you delete the technical system for XI server..using RZ70 you can create the technical system for xi srever..for R/3 you can create the manually technical system.
Regards,
Venu.

Problem exporting technical systems to QA

Hi SDN,
I have a problem when i try to export the technical systems to QA enviroment , the download link is not working and the screen show an red icon without message error , somebody knows what's happening??, i'm using PI 7.0 nw04's
regards

Hi,
most often technical systems are created per landscape
via transaction
have a look at my weblog:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/03/10/registering-a-new-technical-system-in-sld--abap-based
so you don't have to transport them
Regards,
michal

Separate business and personal contacts/calendar on Exchange enabled phone?

I'm a new iPhone user (3gsi) with Exchange support enabled. What I would like to do is manage my business and personal contacts and calendar separately with work items syncing with Exchange and personal items with something else (like Google Calendar/Contacts). Is it possible to separate this way and possibly even manage it all together using the existing calendar and contact apps? I am not interested in the MobileMe service.
Example - I add a personal contact and I dont want it to sync with Exchange, but Google contacts would be nice. Or I add a calendar item that I want to sync with Google calendar instead of Exchange.
Thx!

With an Exchange account syncing business contacts and calendar events over the air, you can also sync personal contacts and calender events direct with a supported application on your computer via the iTunes sync process. You can view business and personal contacts and calendar events combined or separately on the iPhone.
With Windows, this can be with Outlook 2003 or 2007. With a Mac, this can be with the Address Book and iCal.
Or you can sync personal contacts and calendar events over the air with a MobileMe account while doing the same for business contacts and calendar events with an Exchange account.
You can access a Gmail account as an Exchange account via ActiveSync with the iPhone's Mail client, which provides for syncing personal contacts and calendar events over the air, but you can't access two Exchange accounts via ActiveSync with the iPhone's Mail client. This is not supported with ActiveSync with a Windows Mobile device either.

Keeping Business and Personal Contacts Separate?

I have a MS Exchange account at work and use Entourage for my personal contacts on my home computer.
Would it be possible to have both sets of info sync to my phone? I know the iphone has active sync for the Exchange data but then, would it be possible to sync with my home computer without having them then uploaded to my company's exchange server next time activesync connects?
I imagine a lot of people would want to do something like this??
T

With an Exchange account syncing business contacts and calendar events over the air, you can also sync personal contacts and calender events direct with a supported application on your computer via the iTunes sync process. You can view business and personal contacts and calendar events combined or separately on the iPhone.
With Windows, this can be with Outlook 2003 or 2007. With a Mac, this can be with the Address Book and iCal.
Or you can sync personal contacts and calendar events over the air with a MobileMe account while doing the same for business contacts and calendar events with an Exchange account.
You can access a Gmail account as an Exchange account via ActiveSync with the iPhone's Mail client, which provides for syncing personal contacts and calendar events over the air, but you can't access two Exchange accounts via ActiveSync with the iPhone's Mail client. This is not supported with ActiveSync with a Windows Mobile device either.

Differentiate b/w Technical System, Business System and Business Service

Hi all,
I'm new to XI. I was asked two questions. Any one answer the following, plzz.
a) Difference between Business System and Business Service
b) Difference between Technical System and Business System

Hello Gopi,
a) Business System is a logical representation of a Technical System.
Business Service is a abstract representation of a System. For instance, www.google.com have a several system working together and IPs of this machines change eventually. When we use a Business Services like google we reference a computer that we don't know the phisical implementation.
b) Technical system is a phisical machine, it have a IP. Can be a BBDD, ERP, J2EE ......... a Business System is a logical term that we use into the Business Scenarios and represent these Technical System that we had created.
Hope it's help you
Best Regards
Iván Prieto

Business system and technical system in XI

Hi to all
Iam new to XI. I what to know about business system and technical system in XI.
and when does we go to configure a business system and technical system .
with regards
satish.

hi,
in terms of R3
technical system is the server
business system is a client
you can find more about those two in:
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2006/10/11/xi-new-book-mastering-idoc-business-scenarios-with-sap-xi">Mastering IDoc Business Scenarios with SAP XI</a>
how to register R3 technical system - have a look at my blog:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/03/10/registering-a-new-technical-system-in-sld--abap-based
Regards,
michal
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/06/28/xipi-faq-frequently-asked-questions">XI / PI FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions</a>

Technical systems and Business systems in SAP XI

can any one tell me ,breifly explain the diff b/w Technical Systems & Business Systems?
steps to create Techincal system and Business systems?
and also Steps for creating Software Components? For Technical System we can create more than one Business systems ,what it means?can any one explain?

Hi
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
U can also refer Blog's
Re: Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems
For creation of software component see link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/3172d290-0201-0010-2b80-c59c8292dcc9
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Ajay Kumar

About ABAP Technical Systems and Business Systems

Hi experts,
I have an Integration scenary with XI and an R3 vía RFC. I've already created it in the development environment and when I'm going to transport to Consolidation and Production I find that the ABAP Business System related to the ABAP Technical System of the R3 have a different name from the development one.
In the Integration Repository everything its OK because my scenario is developped on a third party system BS and TS. The problem is in the Directory because of the BS of the Message interfaces....
I think that transport Directory scenario with .tpt wont work. I'll probably have to develop it in each environment... What do you think?
Regards
Gonzalo

This is what you need to do to move from Dev to QA.
1. Go to Dev SLD and Export all your SWCV, Products, Technical and Business Systems. This is nothing but saving of the SLD objects as a CIM file on your local machine. You would also need to export the Technical And Business System poitning to your XI integration server .
2. Go to the QA SLD and then import these objects exported in Step 1 in QA SLD
3. Now, create the QA Tech and Business Systems in the QA SLD
4. Go to the Dev Business systems imported on the QS SLD and you will have an option Transport Targets. In this map the Source Business System to the Target Business Systems.
Make sure that all Dev Business Systems have the correspodning Transport Targets for the QA Business SYstems
5. Now if you import the ID objects in QA , the business systems name will be renamed automatically.
Regards
Bhavesh

Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems

Hi
In a SLD we need to configure technical systems and Business systems.. what is the exact difference between Technical Systems and Business Systems..
this question is asked an interview.. for this.. how can we explain..
thanks
babu

Hi babu
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
Reward point if it help u understand

Technical Systems and Business Systems

Hello Everybody!!!
I have some doubts, can you help me, please???
1) Technical Systems are application(software) systems, ok? They aren't hardware systems, ok?
2) In my SLD I should have a SAP ECC system as a technical system and each of their clients as a bussiness system, ok?
3) For third-party systems, where the client concept doesn't exist, I should have one technical system and only one business system for my third-party system, ok?
thanks a lot
Julio

hi julio ,
           ur view is correct except in the technical system .
1)   technical systems are the physically located systems in which we can create only technical system for any physically located system .
2)   bussiness systems are logical systems . according to the type of technical system we can create the no of bussiness systems .
   technical system of type W AS ABAP we can create multiple business systems as there is the concept of clients .
   technical system of   third party   we can not create more than one business system as there is no matter of client .
3)   so for every third party systems only one   business system will be there .
some important points :.
    atleast one   business system will be there on   any   system .
we can   create   more than one   business   system on third party systems .

Business System and Technical System ??

Hi Experts,
Please tell, What is the Technical System and Business System. How many Technical and Busniess Systems do we have in XI ?
Early responses are welcome.

Hi,
Business systems:
Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within PI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems.
Depending on the associated technical system, the following types of business systems are defined in the SLD:
Web AS ABAP:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP.
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP, can play the role either of an application system or an integration server. An integration server is the central component of PI, which provides a framework for the exchange of information among various internal and external entities of a company. The integration server facilitates the interaction between the different operating systems and applications across internal and external networks.
Web AS Java:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS Java.
Standalone:
A business system, which is associated with a standalone Java application.
Third-party:
A business system, which is associated with a third-party technical system.
Technical systems:
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape. An example of an application system is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) server. In the SLD, there are five types of technical systems:
Web AS ABAP:
Web AS ABAP technical systems, ranging from any SAP system to an APO server or CRM server, are based on the same Basis Component (BC), which includes the ABAP interpreter, ABAP Dictionary, ABAP Workbench, and so on. A dedicated database, which stores most of the data of the BC and the application components, is associated with the system.
Web AS Java:
Web AS Java systems consist of one or more instances and each instance is installed on a separate host. An instance itself consists of cluster nodes that can communicate with each other.
Standalone Java:
Standalone Java technical systems are standalone Java applications that are installed in a computer system from an administration perspective. They can also be installed as an operating system service or as a daemon.
Third-Party:
Third-party technical systems contain third-party software components and products.
Regards,
Prakasu

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