Why does the properties menu not appear with the templates?

Hi,
This is a bit hard to explain but maybe someone will get it.
If you draw a div on your deisgn window 'draw AP div' then
click somewhere on that div again, in the design window, then you
get a list of properties at the bottom such as width, height, top,
left, z-index etc....ok.
Now if i load the '3 column hybrid header and footer
template' and click on any div on the deisgn window of this
template then i dont get this properties menu at the bottom. The
width in the css template are set in 'em' btw if that matters.
Now i am thinking there is a fundmental difference betwee the
divs in the template than drawing a div using the 'draw AP div'
tool.??
It's kinda of like the templates are using pure css whereas
the AP div is a mixture, ok i am sure i am WAY of the mark here and
this is just a little thing. Can someone explain?
thanks for any advice!

> Now if i load the '3 column hybrid header and footer
template' and click
> on
> any div on the deisgn window of this template then i
dont get this
> properties
> menu at the bottom.
That's because the div *you* created was Absolutely
Positioned, and there is
a specific inspector for absolutely positioned elements. But
the divs in
the 3-column hybrid header and footer are NOT absolutely
positioned and so
you do not get the special inspector. If you are not sure
about the
difference between absolutely positioned and non-positioned
elements, then
you would be well advised to NOT use absolute positioning
until you do. It
will create big problems for you if you ignore this.
> The width in the css template are set in 'em' btw if
that matters.
That makes the container expand in width as the font size is
expanded by the
visitor, which is what is meant by the 'hybrid' term in the
sample file's
name.
> Now i am thinking there is a fundmental difference
betwee the divs in the
> template than drawing a div using the 'draw AP div'
tool.??
Yes, definitely. This may help you understand positioning a
bit -
There are 4 different types of positioning:
Absolute
Relative
Fixed
Static
Here is a brief explanation of each kind of positioning (with
regard to
placement of elements on the page only)....
Position:absolute (or A/P elements)
This does several things -
1. It 'removes' the element from the flow of the code on
the page so that
it can no longer influence the size or position of any other
page element
(except for those contained within it, of course).
2. The absolutely positioned element takes its position from
the position of
its closest PARENT *positioned* element - in the
absence of any explicitly
positioned parent, this will default to the <body> tag,
which is always
positioned
at 0,0 in the browser viewport.
This means that it doesn't matter where in the HTML code the
layer's code
appears (between <body> and </body>), its
location on the screen will not
change (this assumes that you have not positioned the A/P
element within
a table or another A/P element, of course).
Furthermore, the space in
which
this element would have appeared were it not positioned
is not preserved
on the screen. In other words, absolutely positioned elements
don't take
up any space on the page. In fact, they FLOAT over the page.
Position:relative (or R/P elements)
In contrast to absolute positioning, a relatively positioned
page element is
*not* removed from the flow of the code on the page, so
it will use the
spot
where it would have appeared based on its position in
the code as its
zero point reference. If you then supply top, right,
bottom, or left
positions
to the style for this element, those values will be
used as offsets from
its
zero point.
This means that it DOES matter where in the code the
relatively positioned
element appears (, as it will be positioned in that location
(factoring in
the offsets) on the screen (this is true for any placement in
the code).
Furthermore, the space where this element would have
appeared is
preserved in the display, and can therefore affect the
placement of
succeeding elements. This means that the taller a relatively
positioned element is, the more space it forces on the page.
Position:static
As with relative position, static positions also "go with
the flow". An
element with a static position cannot have values for
offsets (top, right,
left, bottom) or if it has them, they will be ignored. Unless
explicitly
positioned, all div elements default to static positioning.
Position:fixed
A page element with this style will not scroll as the page
content scrolls.
Support for this in elements other than page backgrounds is
quirky
There are several other things you need to know:
1. ANY page element can be positioned - paragraphs, tables,
images, lists,
etc.
2. The <div> tag is a BLOCK level tag. This means that
if it is not
positioned or explicitly styled otherwise, a) it will always
begin on a new
line on the screen, and b) it will always force content to a
new line below
it, and c) it will always take up the entire width of its
container (i.e.,
width:100%).
3. The placement of A/P elements *can* affect the BEHAVIOR of
other
elements
on the page. For example, a 'layer' placed over a hyperlink
will mask that
hyperlink.
You can see a good example of the essential difference
between absolute and
relative positioning here -
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layersdemo.asp
You can see a good demonstration of why using layers for a
page layout tool
is dangerous here -
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layer-overlap.asp
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> Hi,
>
> This is a bit hard to explain but maybe someone will get
it.
>
> If you draw a div on your deisgn window 'draw AP div'
then click somewhere
> on
> that div again, in the design window, then you get a
list of properties at
> the
> bottom such as width, height, top, left, z-index
etc....ok.
>
> Now if i load the '3 column hybrid header and footer
template' and click
> on
> any div on the deisgn window of this template then i
dont get this
> properties
> menu at the bottom. The width in the css template are
set in 'em' btw if
> that
> matters.
>
> Now i am thinking there is a fundmental difference
betwee the divs in the
> template than drawing a div using the 'draw AP div'
tool.??
>
> It's kinda of like the templates are using pure css
whereas the AP div is
> a
> mixture, ok i am sure i am WAY of the mark here and this
is just a little
> thing. Can someone explain?
>
> thanks for any advice!
>

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