Why doesn't the 3-way CC do anything when I click on "white" or "black"??

Question

Hey y'all! I'm new here from FCP7. I don't know if this is normal or if I'm missing something but I definitely can't seem to be able to figure it out and it's driving me crazy!
I have noticed that the 3way color corrector doesn't do much when I click on an area that's supposed to be "white" or "black". So I thought I'd do some testing. In photoshop I created a 3-color image (black, white, & 50% grey) and then applied a blue tint to it. Then imported the tinted image in both Premiere and FCP7.
Here's the result in PrPro:
Here's the result in FCP7:
This is what I do:
- i apply the 3-way color corrector in PrPro
- i click on the little "highlights" eye dropper
- click on the white portion of the image
The result? Nothing.
I do the same for the midtones and the shadows. And I end up with what you see in the first image on the left.
When I do exactly the same in FCP7 you can see it gets rid of the blue tint and I end up with an image that is exactly what white/black/midtones should look...
WHAT AM I MISSING IN PREMIERE PRO???

Answer 1

Now we're starting to get somewhere!
Robmbrown, I love the color tests you just did. I will make sure to change those values in my preset as well.
Neil, I have not worked with SpeedGrade yet so I can't comment on that. However, I do know that if I use Sg then every time I want to make any adjustments to my image I will have to go through Sg again. That's one more app I have to use, one more step I have to do, one more project to manage, and after all that - I still have no control of the image once I'm back inside my editing application and every time I want to make a quick change to it I have to go through the process again. And when you have to do that a bunch of times every day while working with tight deadlines where every minute counts and you have your clients sitting next to you waiting then that workflow is just not an option for you. You need a quick/powerful/working 3 way color correction tool inside your editing application and you need it right then and there. Anything less than that is just not worth it. Currently, Premiere does not have that.
Kevin, please don't get me wrong. There are many features in Premiere Pro that I absolutely LOVE! The rate stretch tool is so much fun and such a time-saver! The ability to customize so many things and, as we just saw, create my own 3 way color corrector is amazing. However, I would trade all these amazing tools and features any day for an application that can give me the basic tools I need to edit my projects quickly yet professionally. This week I had to uninstall and re-install all the CC apps because Sg wasn't working and Premiere was freezing whenever I tried to scale a clip up or move it. After I did that, Premiere is still acting up but now Media Encoder also doesn't work. Next time, it's going to be After Effects... I don't want to have to rely on 5 different apps to be able to edit my projects, especially if they're so unreliable. I don't know how it was before so I don't know what progress Adobe has made on the development of all these apps. I made the switch to PP CC two months ago. I spent one month learning the software and customizing all the keyboard shortcuts and learning about all the cool features in it. I wanted to make sure that before I started complaining about anything that doesn't work it wasn't my fault for not knowing how to use the software. And if I didn't, then I would come here to learn from the pros about how it's done. But my mentality as an editor is to always find ways to do what I'm doing faster without compromising the quality of my projects. I think that's how most young editors think. For me, it either works or it doesn't. "It works BUT..." = Doesn't work. As Rob said, all these little things send the message that Adobe isn't taking this seriously. Now that I've seen both the good and the bad about Premiere it is obvious to me that this app was designed for "quick and dirty" kind of work. And if you want to get "professional" you have to use a bunch of other apps along with it which never work so you're pretty much stuck no matter what. Yes, I know that there are LOTS of people on here who have no problems with the apps working. But there are also JUST AS MANY people who are posting every day about something not working in some app. You're only as strong as your weakest link and, unfortunately for Adobe, it has way too many weak leaks in its chain and the strong ones just can't make up for them...
Anyway, this discussion has gone from a simple question about a filter into the whole philosophy of Adobe and the truth is we can keep talking about that stuff for days. So if you'll excuse me, I now need to go learn AVID. Hopefully, I have a different experience there. Good luck everyone and thanks for your help!!