Will time machine files on snow leopard still be available on lion

Hi all,
I found lots of stuff on moving files around via TM backups but I don't want to do that. I'm in the situation where I've just upgraded my iMac from SL to Lion - if I now plug in my TM disk and switch TM on, will my pre-Lion backups still be available? I'd be surprised if the answer is "no" - but then I've been surprised before ;-)
TIA for any advice
Terry.

Linc, hi, yes this is what I did, I took a CCC clone to an external drive, booted from that and went through the whole upgrade thing on the clone. Then when I was happy, I rebooted the iMac as normal on its internal HD, and took another (SL) clone. Then I repeated the upgrade but now on the internal HD. So I'm reasonably happy, just want to get through a couple of days' work. I wouldn't want to revert - if push came to shove and something was troublesome I'd do my day job on the SL clone until I got it fixed on 10.7. Thanks for you help.
- Terry.

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Once you get yourself back to Snow Leopard, if you still want to upgrade somewhat, I would suggest the following:
1. Get an external hard drive that you can use for experiments with new OS versions. You could partition it into 2 or 3 partitions. You could then clone your existing Snow Leopard system to one partition using Carbon Copy Cloner (well worth $40) or SuperDuper ($25).
2. Buy OS X Mountain Lion for $20, through the Apple online store (I don't think it's available through the App Store). Apple has decided to make it very difficult for anyone to get Mavericks unless they have already downloaded it.
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^^ that's the main problem. Here's the full history.
I bought a new 13" i5 MBP, early 2011 edition. I had an old white Macbook 2.14 ghz core2duo on Snow Leopard. I attempted to port over my time machine backup, but encountered problems in that my User was inaccessible from the new computer after the import finished, and I had to go in and change the root password, etc, and for some reason or another, I couldn't install any programs at all from that administrator's account. By "couldn't" I mean I could install them, but upon installation they would never boot. So, I took it to the apple store and did a clean install from the most up to date Lion OSX. Then, I created a brand new admin account, instead of trying to import the old one, and things seemed great. Then, I just imported my old files from the TM backup, but not any system settings, permissions, or user data. Just my Docs, pics, vids, apps, and itunes stuff.
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Most likely you have Office 2004 which are PPC-only applications and will not work in Lion. Upgrade to Office 2011. Other alternatives are:
Apple's iWork suite (Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.)
Open Office (Office 2007-like suite compatible with OS X.)
NeoOffice (similar to Open Office.)
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I have just bought a non-Apple external hard drive, but haven't used it yet (still packed up!). I am about to update to Snow Leopard and wondered what was best to do with backing up my hard drive (mixture of music, important files etc.).
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I read in various posts to delete or thrash the "Backups.backupd" folder so that the installation of SNow Leopard can continue bypassing the error message of volume being used by Time Machine. I did that and installation of Snow Leopard proceeded beautifully. Thanks a lot.
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V.K. wrote:
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TIA

polar315 wrote:
Old in on the tooth on PC but, learning mode on the Mac. Was running Snow Leopard but, it became very slow. So slow I could not use it. Decided I should go back to Leopard and stay there. Did a time machine of my system while on Snow Leopard. My goal was to keep all my data (20K+ images and videos over the last 8 years), emails, bookmarks, email, and contacts.
I would wipe my mac then, just have Leopard installed and restore the files. Not as easy as I expected.
Now I have Leopard installed, kept my user accounts in the Previous system folder and have my time machine backup of the entire system on an external drive.
that is not wiping your drive clean. you did an archive and install which is not recommended while downgrading. i would suggest you do an erase and install to get a really clean system.
after that you have basically two options.
1. during the original computer setup after the install you'll get an option to migrate from a TM backup. choose to migrate user data ONLY. do not migrate applications. those will need to be reinstalled by hand. You can also migrate later using Migration Assistant located in /Applications/Utilities.
Note that using migration assistant even on users only may lead to some minor issues due to differences between snow leopard and leopard.
2. migrate what you need from the TM backup by hand. tedious but safe
to do that control-click on TM in the dock and choose 'browse other TM disks".
this will let you browse your TM backups and restore what you want where you want to.
see this link on what to restore.
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=6185507
one correction to this link.
ical data is stored in ~/library/calendars.
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