WSUS Server Cleanup Wizard... to run or not to run?

Hi,
Sometimes on my server, the WSUS synchronization fails (operation timed out) and I heard that running the Server Cleanup Wizard could help. I also heard that nothing should be done in the WSUS console because it's managed by SCCM.
For SCCM, is it a good or bad practice to run Server Cleanup Wizard from WSUS console and why? SCCM isn't cleaning stuff already? I don't want to mess things up.
Thanks for your help!

Hi,
In addition, you can run the PowerShell Script in Scheduled Tasks.
http://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/ScriptCenter/en-us/fd39c7d4-05bb-4c2d-8a99-f92ca8d08218
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    Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCSA, MCITP:EA, MCDBA
    SolarWinds Head Geek
    Microsoft MVP - Software Packaging, Deployment & Servicing (2005-2014)
    My MVP Profile: http://mvp.microsoft.com/en-us/mvp/Lawrence%20R%20Garvin-32101
    http://www.solarwinds.com/gotmicrosoft
    The views expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of SolarWinds.

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    Microsoft MVP - Software Packaging, Deployment & Servicing (2005-2014)
    My MVP Profile: http://mvp.microsoft.com/en-us/mvp/Lawrence%20R%20Garvin-32101
    http://www.solarwinds.com/gotmicrosoft
    The views expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of SolarWinds.

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    Steven Lee Please remember to mark the replies as answers if they help and unmark them if they provide no help. If you have feedback for TechNet Support, contact [email protected]

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    Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
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    My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
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