X Lion and Rosetta

our epson printers need rosetta installed for the driver to work, how does X lion get around this

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Lion and Rosetta/The Mouse/Installing In As Many Mac For One Price

According to the NY Times, Lion eats Rosetta to shreds. Is there a way to know which programs use Rosetta? Like say, Photoshop or Word? How do you utilize the mouse? Say as always? Back to the article, it states: "your $30 covers as many Macs as you own. How do you install the app into the other Macs, if they are in three different locations, and don't speak to one another. Do you put the app on a flash?
Thanks for any responses

For info on Rosetta > Lion upgrade questions and answers: Apple Support Communities
You can install Lion on all your authorized Macs using the same Apple ID.
Lion requires an Intel-based Mac with a Core 2 Duo, i3, i5, i7 or Xeon processor and 2GB of RAM.
Downloading past purchases from the App Store, iBookstore, and iTunes Store
Click your Apple menu / About This Mac then click More Info. Select Applications to see which apps are Intel or PowerPC.

OS X lion and Rosetta

Can I manually install Rosetta to allow PowerPC (Photoshop CS) to run?

You could install Snow Leopard (and Rosetta) into Parallels 7 in Lion:
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Full instructions for installing Snow Leopard:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439

I hereby request ideas on the Lion and Rosetta divorce

OK. The Rosetta and Lion divorce.
There are applications I purchased to run on my PowerBook G4 (from 2005), then MacBook Pro (2009) and now on MacBook Air (2009) on Leopard or Snow Leopard. Those apps, I use professionally, and I will not upgrade to any other versions (not even for free, let alone for a couple thousand dollars) because:
I do not need to functionality-wise
I like the low resource consumption they have
I am not rich
But more importantly, I will not do just because someone at Apple/Adobe tells me so (freedom anyone?)
These are
Adobe Photoshop
Adobe Illustrator
Adobe InDesign
Adobe Acrobat Professional
Logic Pro 8
So, faced with:
Reduction of my freedom
At least a few thousand dollars to upgrade key apps
Going against my own principles
What will I do? What should I do? What is reaslistic that I do?
I need ideas, not good to say stuff like: "move back to Linux"--I desinvested in the platform to move to the Mac for pro reasons, or "Get Windows 7"--I was done with Windows after the joys of Windows 95 (Windows 20xx Server is good for SQL Server and IBM Cognos stuff and other enterprise, risk averse, single IT supplier mentality, which pays quite well also as a pro, but is not the point of this request for ideas)
Really, what am I supposed to do, oh, buy an iPhone maybe?
Mikka

dwb wrote:
The problem with Rosetta is two fold: 1) Apple didn't own the technology, it was licensed, and 2) it was 32 bit and Lion is 64 bit. So there are three questions (a) had Transative rewritten Rosetta for 64 bit technology and/or was it willing to do so? (b) what kind of compromises would Apple had to make in Lion to allow Rosetta to work in a 64 bit environment (assuming it was possible at all) and (c) did Apple's license permit it to rewrite Rosetta, was it cost effective to do so, and if so did all that work revert to Transative under the license? To me, as a programmer, it is obvious why Apple chose to drop Rosetta support. When the company dropped the PPC platform for Intel it was vital. Five years down the road, not so much, and even worse, possibly detrimental.
This is quite interesting and useful to know. It mixes business reasons with technical reasons, which actually makes it better as one does not work without the other too good. As a programmer I can also see the benefit of simplicity. The world is not simple though, and sure, there are a lot of desirable technologies, also sure they will never make it very far for business reasons. Good answer.
I am a user here. Not the programmer nor the economist. It helps to know all the technical detail. But in this world of virtualisation, what is wrong with not being 100% Intel or not being 100% 64 bit or not being 100% gasoline or not being 100% organic?
I wish I lived in a pure world, but I don't. I like Lion a lot, look forward to the iOS influenced UI, I can see the day when the MBA has a touch screen too, somehow I guess. But I still use a keyboard, we kinda all do with a Mac. I still use Logic 8 and still use CS1.
From the answers above, I think this is a sensible roadmap
Not using Lion as the work OS nor my fun OS yet but as a test OS on a separate partition or drive
Wait for a .0.1 or .1 version to clear some of the initial issues and perhaps get patches for some apps (Logic)--> 2.1 Save money in the meantime for next step. Here, I wish Apple had taken care of the user (me) and told me in advance this was going to happen, wishful thinking, I know, but would have helped. It is hard to second-guess Apple when one is busy.
Buy new versions of older apps if I still want to use them in Lion in a few months as a main work or fun OS (Freehand is a very sad example of where I'd be losing a great old and trusted tool, but I got used to Illustrator anyway, Adobe do that all the time so I was ready)
Maybe Apple and its business partners (Adobe and the rest) authorise some virtualisation vendor to allow everything (in "Wine for Linux" style, not full Snow Leopard as it would be overkill, some 3rd party rosetta-style translation. Fast too.)
Pray that Apple does not become solely the greatest consumer IT goods maker of all time but also keeps some good stuff for professional users (like Thunderbolt as a theoretical replacement for FireWire and USB as opposed to just removing the ExpressCard slot, great for eSATA, and replacing it with a $5 SD card reader on MBP 15")
Pray that someone else does a good job at the pro market if Apple moves out of it
I can't help thinking, when JPEG is made obsolete and computer vendors stop supporting it and I am, let's say, 70 years old, how am I going to be able to see my wedding pictures? I mean, will I get optic nerve implants to decode JPEG or what? Or will I be the obsolete piece?
Forced obsolescence is a bad business model, and it will show eventually. Still, I love Lion... darn faith...
cheers
Mikka

I have recently purchased MacBook Pro with Mac OSX 10.7.3 Lion and I would like to install Final Cut Pro 6 Studio2, and it came up with this error: 'you can't open application FinalCutProStudio.mpkg because PowerPc apps are no longer supported..pls advise

I have recently purchased MacBook Pro with Mac OSX 10.7.3 Lion and I would like to install Final Cut Pro 6 Studio2, and it came up with this error: 'you can't open application FinalCutProStudio.mpkg because PowerPc apps are no longer supported......Is there a way to run FCP6 on lion withoput this error? Any help would be appreciated.....

Hi Shane,
Just one more quesiton re: this topic, I am looking to get rosetta but do not have Leopard or Snow Leopard...
I read that it is not on Snow Leopard only on Leopard....so do I need to get only Leopard? Can u advise?
Alternatively I do have Mac OS X Tiger so is it on this and can I install it from here?
Please excuse my lack of knowledge here, just trying to get my FCP 6 up and running asap....
Best Rgds.

I upgraded to Mountain Lion and now I can't use any of my software!

What a disaster and huge mistake. Upgraded to Mountain Lion and now I can't run Autocad 2012 for Mac, any of my Adobe Creative suites software such as Photoshop, Illustrator.. and now I can't even do upgrades because Mountain Lion doesn't allow me to launch DMGs. I've lost thousands of $'s in software, not to mention time, but most importantly now I can't even work! I just tried to revert back to Snow Leopard by intalling it back in my hard drive and it won't let me. I never used Time Machine. Is there any way on earth I can revert back to my old operating software??? Please help. And if you haven't upgraded yet and are thinking about it. BEWARE - and don't do it. I've been reading that Mountain Lion isn't working with Microsoft applications either. Omy...I haven't even checked that.
and of course no one at Apple support can or will help me

lunaulu wrote:
It's not my Microsoft that I use much or am worried about. I can't run AutoCAD. and I can't update AutoCAD either. When I try to mount an update just to get it working, it says it can't run the DMG file. Apparantly this new platform doesn't use Rosetta - which is needed to run any of these updates or downloads. ***? and then When I try to open CS4 appliations - Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, or InDesign - I get the message "Licensing for this product has stopped working - Error 150:30 - ***?
So basically I can't use ANY of the programs I ran before. And yes I have googled desperately all day. Adobe has some suggestions - like deleting a Flex files - which I did...Defragmenting - which I did. And most importantly provides am Adobe Licensing Repair tool to fix - which I can't open because Mountain Lion won't mount the DMG in order to run it! It's a complete disaster and I don't have the money or time to purchase and or reinstall everything. I am just screwed.
No you are not, calm down, cbs20 already gave you the answer on opening dmg files, updates are available for most of your programs and I assume you have licenses for the Adobe products. AutoCad you'll have to wait for.
And please .... Start Backing Things Up, you could lose it all without one, work included.

LION and LION apps frustrations

I simply cannot understand why the Mail application in Lion deletes the "Address" or "Address Book" button, or the abllity to add it, in the outgoing message window. Yes, the button is available in the Message Viewer window; but this requires one to leave the window in which the message being prepared, to go to a separate window, then to return to the message. This is ridiculous.
The other alternative, remembering "Option-Command-A" is not satisfactory; nor is going to the menu bar to select "Address Window." Put the darned Address Book button back in the outgoing message window, where it has resided very effectively for years. Or, add it to the customize option in the message window so we can put it there ourselves.
This is just one of the many unnecessary and annoying changes implemented in Lion. Despite the major features, some of which may be useful (many are not), the myriad minor changes that make things more difficult to find simply make Lion an annoyance I wish I had not purchased. I am still trying to work with it, but I am seriously considering returning to Snow Leopard - with that, at least my Intuit (Quicken) and Photoshop Elements applications would still work (yes, I reboot to a drive with Snow Leopard to use these; yes, I plan to update to Photoshop 10 when it comes out; and yes, the decision not to update Quicken for Mac after deletion of Rosetta so that bill paying could still be done from within the application was a boneheaded choice by Intuit, not Apple). But the bottom line is, switching to Lion has caused disruption for me in many things I (used to) use daily.
In addition, some of the new interfaces are simply ugly - the grayed out left-side bar in the Finder window, same in Mail - are awful. Even the log-in screen background is ugly.
Perhaps Lion is supposed to prepare us for "Cloud computing" but I abhor the idea of sending my files and data off to someone's server, with no idea of where that server is, or what measures are taken to secure the data, or who else has access to it. It is another feature I will not use.
Lion, and its supporting applications, are a disappointment - and I haven't even addressed the utter failure of Safari 5 to properly handle cookies (I addressed it at length elsewhere). But basically, no matter what the security settings or the selection/non selection of "Private Browsing," Safari 5 accepts cookies from any site visited. It's bad enough that the cookie handling selections differed unnecessarily and confusingly from previous versions; it doesn't matter, because they don't work!
Bad job, Apple.

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I downloaded OSX Lion and lost access to my Microsoft office programs. How do I get them back?

I just purchased OSX Lion and downloaded the file. I now can not access my microsoft office programs. This is not something I was warned about by the team in the Apple Store at all. Is there a way to recover these programs? ( Word, Excel, Powerpoint)

Do you have Office 2004 or earlier? If so, you'll need to upgrade to a more recent version. Office 2004 is a PowerPC application, and requires Rosetta to run on an Intel Mac. Rosetta isn't included in Lion, so Lion won't run PowerPC apps.
One suggestion I've seen is to put two partitions on your hard drive, with one running Snow Leopard and the other running Lion. Any PowerPC apps would be installed on the Snow Leopard partition, and Universal or Intel apps would be installed on the Lion partition.
If your version of Office is the Intel version, I don't know what to tell you. Hope this helps.

I've upgraded to mountain lion and now cannot use microsoft office--what happened?

I've upgraded to ox Mountain Lion and now cannot use any of my Microsoft office software. What happened?

It appears that you upgraded your computer to Mountain Lion and were using Microsoft Office 2004. In the short term, if you need to open and modify Word files, go to the file in the Finder and Control-Click on it. A menu will come up: go to Open With... and select TextEdit. This should allow you to open, modify and save the file for the short term.
You can do the same trick to open Microsoft Excel files in Preview and print them; but I do not think you can modify them in this way.
Workarounds for Microsoft Office 2004 since upgrading to Mountain Lion:
1. Upgrade to Microsoft Office 2011. This version works in Mountain Lion. However some of your legacy 2004 files may convert badly.
2. Restore the version of OS X that you were using before Mountain Lion.
3. Partition your hard drive and/or attach an external hard drive and install Snow Leopard on it and use the 'dual-boot' method of booting into Mountain Lion when you need it and booting into Snow Leopard when you need to run your PowerPC applications such as Microsoft Office 2004.
4. The method I use, which allows me to run my PowerPC applications concurrently with Lion: I installed Snow Leopard (with Rosetta) into Parallels 7 in Lion:
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Full Snow Leopard installation instructions here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439

Is my iMac now useless as i have installed lion and i am no longer able to run cs2 photoshop and illustrator as this is all i use my mac for they should make this clear before buying it i can't afford the latest version of cs2

is my iMac now useless as i have installed lion and i am no longer able to run cs2 photoshop and illustrator as this is all i use my mac for they should make this clear before buying it i can't afford the latest version of cs2 and cant believe what a waste of money it is.

The newest version of CS2 is CS5. And it was made very clear that these applications would not run in Lion. Not only by Apple, but on all sorts of communities and websites. It has been a long time coming - PowerPC apps were outdated six years ago. Lion does not support Rosetta, and therefore not PPC apps.
you have to options. Go back to Snow Leopard or upgrade your software. (MS Office 2004 and older will not run either).
Cheers

I upgraded to Lion and now can't print PDF files and Acrobat reader doesn't work anymore. What can I do to get it working?

I upgraded to Lion and now can't print PDF files and Acrobat reader doesn't work anymore. What can I do to get it working?

If you upgraded and were using a version of Acrobat Reader that was legacy, that is PPC compatible, then you will have to upgrade to a version compatible with Lion as Lion no longer has Rosetta to interface with the legacy software.
I know that Acrobat, full version, 10 works with Lion...use it myself.

I just updated my iMac to Mountain Lion and now my 2004 Student/Teacher Microsoft Office (Word, Powerpoint, and Excel) won't work. Do I need to update those apps to the Mac 2011 version?

I just installed Mountain Lion on my mid 2007 iMac but now my 2004 Microsoft Student Teacher Word, Excel, and Powerpoint won't open and are x'd out on my dock.Do I need to update to the 2011 Student zoffice version?

Microsoft Office's 2011 version is compatible with Lion and presumably either works with Mountain Lion or an update will make it so. The problem with this approach is that Office 2011 will "convert" your earlier data files and there lies the rub! For example, I have the need to weekly open a chart created in Excel 2004, but Excel 2011 trashes the chart in its "conversion."
So I have approached the overall problem differently.
The reason your applications do not work in Mountain Lion is that they were written for the older PowerPC CPU that all Macs used up to 2006. When Apple made its transition to the Intel CPU, they licensed software that they included in all versions of OS X (from Tiger to Leopard and optionally, Snow Leopard) called Rosetta.
Rosetta miraculously allows PowerPC applications to work on the Intel processor transparently; you do not know it is even present.
The problem is that after 6 years of the transition, Apple's license to use the underlying software expired for OS X Lion and all version thereafter (and it is doubtful that the current owner of the software, IBM, would relicense it, even if Apple were inclined to do so).
So for those of use that need to run Lion, I have offered the option to install Snow Leopard (with Rosetta) into Parallels 7:
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And now Mountain Lion:
Full Snow Leopard installation instructions into Parallels 7 are here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439

New Mac Pro with Lion and can't install FCP.

I got a new Mac Pro with Lion and can't install FCP that worked fine in SL. Is it not compatible? Is it really a PowerPC program??? I'm a videographer and rely on this software and to spend $300 to continue to use it after spending a lot more for this software 4 years ago! Tell me this is not the case and there is a solution to installing FCP.

How to run FCP 6 (FCS 2) under Lion.
The installer for FCP 6 (FCS 2) is a PPC app. The Programs themselves are Intel. If your trying to install FCP 6 (FCS 2) this work-around will work...
First you need to install Rosetta from your Snow Leopard OS installation disc:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/27987.html
After doing that you can install FCP 6 (FCS 2). Remember, after installing FCP 6 (FCS 2) you need to apply the updates. This has been discuss many times in the Final Cut Studio forum.
If your trying to install FCP version 5.1 (FCS 1) (a PPC app) and below your out of luck....
If you need further help, here is the URL for the Final Cut Studio forum:
https://discussions.apple.com/community/professional_applications/final_cut_stud io?view=discussions
R

Just upgraded to Lion and can not use my QuarkXpress program.

Just upgraded to Lion and can not use my QuarkXpress program.

Your best bet is to check the version of QuarkXPress you have. Since Lion does not include Rosetta my guess is this may be why it is not working. Check out this site http://roaringapps.com/apps:table. This site has a list of apps that work and don't work under Mac OS X Lion.
If you are working in a production environment freelance or stuido that uses design apps like QuarkXPress, Adobe InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop you should always wait to upgrade your OS. We have a 3 to 6 month policy for upgrading computers and software.
I hope the website helps. http://roaringapps.com/apps:table
Good Luck

Can I have both Lion and Snow Leopard on One Hard Drive?

My problem is I need to run a PowerPC game on Lion which Lion no longer supports. So i thought i could download Snow Leopard back to my Mac and partiition my hard drive in the process as that is the only way i know of to have both Lion and Snow Leopard. I went through the Boot Camp Asistant process and it seems it will only partition Windows 7 to my Mac when i need Snow Leopard. If anyone has any idea how to help me have both Lion and Snow Leopard at the same time on just one hard drive or figure out how to run the PowerPC programs on my Mac (if there is a way around it). The help will be well appreciated!

How To Run Snow Leopard On A New Mac
This does not apply to new Mac Minis or MacBook Airs. When newer models are introduced that also require Lion for hardware support, the techniques described below will no longer work with the possible exception of using Parallels 7.
What has to be done:
Create a new partition on the hard drive.
Get a clone of a 10.6.8 Snow Leopard system. Put the cloned Snow Leopard system onto the new partition.
Step One: Create a new partition on the hard drive
To resize the drive and create a new partition do the following:
1.    Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
       After the main menu appears select Disk Utility and click on the Continue button. Select the hard drive's main entry then click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
2.   You should see the graphical sizing window showing the existing partitions. A portion may appear as a blue rectangle representing the used space on a partition.
3.    In the lower right corner of the sizing rectangle for each partition is a resizing gadget. Select it with the mouse and move the bottom of the rectangle upwards until you have reduced the existing partition enough to create the desired new volume's size. The space below the resized partition will appear gray. Click on the Apply button and wait until the process has completed. (Note: You can only make a partition smaller in order to create new free space.)
4.   Click on the [+] button below the sizing window to add a new partition in the gray space you freed up. Give the new volume a name, if you wish, then click on the Apply button. Wait until the process has completed.
You should now have a new volume on the drive.
It would be wise to have a backup of your current system as resizing is not necessarily free of risk for data loss. Your drive must have sufficient contiguous free space for this process to work.
Step Two: Obtain a clone of a Snow Leopard system:
You will need access to a Mac already running Snow Leopard. You will need a 16 GB USB flash drive or an external hard drive to which you can clone the Snow Leopard system from the Mac that has Snow Leopard installed. Alternatives are:
Option One:
Install a new Snow Leopard system onto a USB flash drive. Boot the Mac used for installing with the USB flash drive. Update the flash drive system to 10.6.8 using the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 to update Snow Leopard. Verify that you can boot the Mac with the USB flash drive.
Take the USB flash drive to your new Mac and try booting from it. If it works then clone the system from the flash drive to the newly made partition:
          Clone using Restore Option of Disk Utility
Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
Select the destination volume from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
          Destination means the new partition on the internal drive. Source means the USB flash drive.
Option Two:
If you have a large enough external drive you can erase and use, then it would be easier to just clone the entire Snow Leopard system from the source Mac computer to the external drive.
          Clone using Restore Option of Disk Utility
Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
Select the destination volume from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
          Destination means the external drive. Source means the Snow Leopard Mac's internal drive.
After cloning verify that it will boot the source Mac. If so then take the external drive to your new Mac boot with it. If all is well then restore the clone to the new partition on your new Mac:
          Restore the clone using Disk Utility
Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
Select the destination volume from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
          Destination means the new partition on the internal drive. Source means the external drive.
If the above seems too daunting then you might consider running Snow Leopard inside an emulator such as Parallels 7. You are permitted to install a single copy of Snow Leopard inside a virtual machine. You will need to first purchase a copy of Parallels 7 and install it on your new Mac. Create a new virtual machine configured for Mac OS X. You may then install Snow Leopard in the virtual machine then download Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 and update to 10.6.8. Be sure to include Rosetta in your initial Snow Leopard installation. Rosetta is not installed by default rather it's an optional install.

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