XControl (question sur "data in")

J'ai construit un XControl (indicateur)
(ceci dit, pas facile d'aborder les XControl ... pas beaucoup de docs, peu d'explications, Il faut chercher par soi-même)
J'ai besoin de lui envoyer 2 données ... un U32 et un booléen.
J'ai configuré "data in" (type def data 1.ctl) comme étant un cluster comprenant (1xU32)+(1xbooléen)
Unbundle dans le XControl ... ça fonctionne.
ma question :
Serait-il possible de ne pas utiliser de cluster pour "passer" mes 2 données au XControl ? ... il me faudrait alors 2 entrées.
Autrement dit,
"data in" me donne une entrée ... que je peux configurer en U32
Serait-il possible de créer une 2eme entrée de données au XControl ?
Je pourrais alors configurer cette 2eme entrée en booléen (via un 2eme type def).
et me passer du Cluster.
Cela ne me dérange nullement d'utiliser un Cluster d'entrée.
Simplement dans un contexte théorique et d'apprentissage de LV, je me pose cette question.
Merci à tous.

Bonjour Olivier,
Toujours très chouette tes interventions.
Oui, en effet, je me frotte aux XControl, passionnant comme tout le reste.
Avant cela, j'ai touché un peu aux VIs Polymorphes ... une récréation à côté des XControls
Pour les XControls la doc est rare et peu approfondie sur le Net, il faut "y aller" par soi-même.
"Dernière chose, je pense que tenter de modifier le connecteur du Facade.vi est voué à l'achec"
Oui, bien sur ... "tout cela" est géré par LV en arrière plan (je l'ai parfaitement compris),
vouloir ajouter un connecteur d'entrée à un XControl ... autant vouloir ajouter un 2eme compteur d'itérations à une boucle For.
Je reprends tes remarques :
1) oui, ça j'ai compris.
2) ça je comprends moins.
    un XControl sert à créer un Control ou un Indicateur personnalisé, avec un comportement particulier.
    Mais ... pour "séparer" les parties de code ... je ne "sens" pas la chose.
    Cela ne me semblait pas être le "but premier" d'un XControl ... mais plutôt des sous-VIs.
3) super remarque.
4) comprends pas ... De toutes façons il m'est impossible d'utiliser un autre type de données que ceux repris dans LV.
5) et 6) super remarque ... à écrire sur le mur, derrière l'écran.
7) s'inspirer des objets LV ... ? ... à quels objets penses-tu (par exemlpe)
J'ai construit un XControl perso pour commander un afficheur 7 segments,
ça fonctionne tip-top, mais cela reste un XControl assez simple.
Pour le moment je regarde de près 2 exemples du Net ("LedXCtrl" de Aristos Queue et "BlinkingLed")
J'ai déjà fait connaissance avec le Cluster "state" et avec "Display State Change" ... je commence "à voir".
Pour les Propriétés et Méthodes que l'on peut ajouter à un XControl ...
J'y arrive ... la bête est juste devant moi, on se regarde

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