Xorg 7.1 new

are you happy for new Xorg?

Slackhack,
Not only is VESA basic, but it's a standard that's been around for ages.  It's a standard that's probably older than Linux.  Of course there have been revisions of it over time to accomidate newer functionality (i.e. there were different versions of vbe).  But AFAIK, it's a very open standard.
The idea with VESA is that graphic cards support it (most do in one for another).  It provides some basic 2D functionality.  I believe where the problem stems is that many video card manufacturers have taken liberties in how much or how little they suport it (but I don't see this as being the explaination for the problems with the vesa driver in current xorg.  I'll get to that later).  I've noticed that from one card to another they all seem to have their own share of quirks when it comes to vesa support (I mean vesa outside of the scope of just Linux here).  Like back in the day, many DOS games utilized and often required a video card to be vesa compliant.  Back then we had SDD (Sci-tech's display doctor) to fill the void where cards poorly supported and implemented vesa in their bios.  SDD was essentially a video bios that you load up into system memory.  Remember TSRs?  SDD was a TSR program.
You're pretty much right in the assessment that vesa is sort of the fallback standard these days.  If a card can't utilized vesa for crap, then a person is stuck with super ugly vga as a last resort.
Matrox, has always been pretty good about supporting vesa.  Alot better than most.  When we use the mga driver for example, this is a driver written more specifically for certain mga graphic chipsets, whereas vesa is more of a generic means by which to utilize them.  Moreso a generic means to utilize any vesa compliant video card.  Vesa will lack alot of the extra functionality of course, but still I don't see how xorg could drop the ball on vesa.  Usually the blame falls on the video card manufacturers and them being so closed about things.  I don't see how this can be a good excuse when it comes vesa since it's an open standard.
Kth5,
I'm using a CRT connected through VGA.

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