XServe on 2 Seperate Networks

I will be getting 2 xServes to be used as web servers. I understand that they will be hooked up to 2 seperate networks.
I assume that I can do that, and keep the 2 networks isolated from each other. I would like to not open up things like ftp/ssh/or anything like that if I can afford it.
Since I can't test this, I guess I would set up the 2 networks in the network preference pane. Is there anything that I might be missing?
Thanks!

Define 'two networks', please.
While the XServe does have two NICs, it's designed for one 'external' NIC and one 'internal' NIC (e.g. a LAN on a private network).
It isn't possible to configure two external (public) NICs and get them to work in the way you expect. The issue is that you can have only one default gateway. This means that all non-local traffic is going to go out one NIC, even if it's related to traffic on the second NIC. This can cause problems depending on how you're connected to the networks.
If one of the networks is a LAN and doesn't require any special routing, then you just use Network preferences to set the IP addresses accordingly.

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