Your opinion please

Greetings! First off my MSI mobo with the I7 proc having the specs below is fine and only getting better with age. My MO with the PC is everyday stuff with the occasional digitizing of video thrown in. The I7 and hyper threading is just awesome! For the life of the PC I have been shutting the power completely off at night and letting it S3 sleep during the day. I have all the peripheral’s power hooked into one power strip and turn everything off with one switch save for the wireless router. The router stays on 24/7 for other PCs in the house. I run Trend Micro’s Titanium Internet Security as my firewall with the router WEP encrypted. Over the past couple of years the Trend Micro software has reported a couple of attempted break ins to my wireless network, but I would almost bet it’s the neighbors fooling around and not a real break in. Anyway . . … for longevities sake do you think I should just let the PC continue to S3 sleep 24/7 and never shut it off, or continue to power it completely off at night. One thing to note is that when the system is sleeping and there is a power failure, or spike it takes a long time to “resume windows”. In fact it can be cold booted twice in the time it takes to “resume windows”. So what do you think turn it off at night, or S3 sleep 24/7? Oh . . … when you chime in please don’t just give an opinion without revealing why you feel that way. Thanks!

I second to Jack's suggestion of using Hibernation.
I have been running Hibernation mode on my PCs and Laptops without any need to change any background options. Works great, especially on my laptops and resuming back to Windows from my PC is a breeze.

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Murray,
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shared IP (my
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Packaging and distribution of EJBs - your opinion, please

Hello everyone,
I am working on an EJB-based commercial product. When done, it will be deployable on a number of application servers that use different XML descriptor files, with different content. Initially, these will be JBoss, WebLogic and Sun ONE AS v8.
I am pondering two different ways of distributing the product:
1. with a wizard-like GUI-based utility that will format the required XML files based on the user's input, build the EAR file from the preexisting components + the newly formatted XML files, and deploy the resulting archive in the server's application directory, or
2. hand over the component JAR and WAR files, with some skeleton XML descriptors, and tell the user to make their own, server-specific XML files, then assemble the EAR and deploy it manually.
While the approach (1) is obviously user-friendly, and would be voted for by the majority of users, I wonder how this is done by other vendors offering their EJB products. Also, it is entirely possible that I am missing some other (better? hybrid?) approaches.
Your opinion on this matter is highly appreciated.
Alex Molochnikov
Gestalt Corporation

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Prefix namespacing should go the way of 8.3 filenames? Your opinion Please

In the "The Xylophone Project IV - Core Architecture " thread Dr Damien wrote
The last project I started with new code was in prerelease 8.0. It had the distinction of being the first shipping large application ever designed with the LabVIEW project and LabVOOP. But wait, you say, LabVOOP did not ship until 8.20. Correct. I had to re-engineer with libraries. It was then I found out that most use of prefixes was unnecessary. In fact, the separate namespacing nature of libraries/objects greatly simplifies the creation of plug-in architectures. So, long-winded answer to a short question, I think that prefix namespacing should go the way of 8.3 filenames. [emphesis added]
after Ray Farmer posted
I am reading 'Clean Code' - Robert C Martin at the moment and in there it suggest that any prefix to names is not required these days, but I was wondering if its still essential with LabVIEW but as Ben points out maybe its not.
Well of course I am brining this topic up since I think it is a standard that should be dropped.
Please voice your thoughts on this topic and if we can come to some agreement, we'll re-write the LabVIEW Style guide.
Ben
Ben Rayner
I am currently active on.. MainStream Preppers
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I spent a little time with this taking the one main project and converting directories to libraries and whatnot. I do see a problem with this approach: sublibraries. I started with my "Utilities" directory. Within there I had a bunch of folder for each category: "Array", "Numeric", "File", etc. So I created a library for each subgroup: "Array.lvlib", etc. I then created a "Utilities" library and placed each individual sublibrary in that and saved all of that. Now, after I close everything and open, say, "Array.lvlib" it automatically opens "Utilities.lvlib" with everything loaded. Worse: let's say I just need the Array library and I copy that over to another computer. If I open Array.lvlib on the other machine everything seems OK. But, if I open one of the subVIs it has a broken arrow because "Utilities.lvlib" is missing.
I know this is all by design, but in my book this makes it quite restrictive, and for the moment I'm going to stick with prefixes since I can copy over the "Array" directory and not have a bunch of broken VIs. Too bad, though.
ADDENDUM: Yes, I know I can "Disconnect from Library", but this is extra work that would be required for each library that I decide I need on the other computer.
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Longevity of CDs and DVDs -- Your Opinion Please

I have heard all sorts of years that computer made media will last and be useable. I hear 3-5 years. Some people are removing pictures from the HD and putting them on CDs.
They are assuming that anytime in the future these discs will be readable.
What do you know about this issue.

I know nothing - but here is a googled article that suggests -r lasta a long time -- -rw not so long
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-10149_102-0.html?forumID=7&threadID=152618&messageID =1698511&tag=nl.e497
1/27/06 How long do burned CD-Rs and CD-RWs last?
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) - 1/26/06 5:55 PM
Question:
I recently read an article by a data storage expert who claimed that burned CD-Rs and CD-RWs can be expected to last only two to five years and not a whole lot more. I personally have commercially pressed CDs from the 1980s that still play fine, but I have begun to notice that some of my burned CD-Rs are beginning to skip, or not start (player shows "no disc"), or have a strange echo that was not on the original. This sounds serious! The expert suggests that for secure long-term storage, high -quality magnetic tape is the way to go. Are any of your readers beginning to notice this problem with their burned CDs, and are there other opinions about how to combat it? Are some burnable CDs of higher quality than others? What are the best storage methods for the discs that will make them last longest?
Submitted by: Carl N. of Cottonwood, Arizona
Answer:
Factory-pressed CDs are totally different from recordable CDs. In a pressed CD, the data is literally "molded into" (actually pressed into) the media and will not disappear unless the CD is physically damaged. Recordable CDs use a dye that changes color or reflectivity when heated. There are different dye types commonly used in recordable CDs--phthalocyanine, azo, and cyanine, in particular--and they do not all have the same life expectancy and stability.
All of the studies that I have seen except one suggest that properly burned one-time media (-R media, but not -RW media; see below) has an expected life of decades to possibly even centuries. There was a study by NIST (a U.S. government agency, used to be the National Bureau of Standards) on the relative stability of different media here:
http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/gipwog/StabilityStudy.pdf
You can see some comparisons in the NIST study of the different dye types. But this study did not attempt to extrapolate the data to a life expectancy, although it did provide data about the relative stability of the different dyes and reflection layers behind them.
However, opinions still differ as to how long such media will last. The OSTA (Optical Storage Technology Association), in a report here:
http://www.osta.org/technology/cdqa13.htm
suggests that optical recordable media will last 50 to 200 years. This observation is backed by quite a number of studies that I have seen done both by the media makers and others. However, some storage experts suggest numbers more in line with your question, for example the expert in this report suggests a life of only 2 to 5 years:
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmansonline_genealogy/2006/01/lifeexpectancy.html (I have a suspicion that this is the article that you read).
The bottom line is that you are not going to get one single answer that everyone agrees on, although I personally am confident that properly recorded CD-R media can last decades if not a century or two. These 3 articles provide a good starting point for understanding some of the variables involved, which include:
-Dye type
-Physical construction of the media
-Storage conditions (temperature, humidity, light exposure, mechanical stress, chemical exposure and air quality)
-Manufacturing conditions (can vary from batch to batch in otherwise identical media of the same brand)
Now let’s mention some other things that are relevant and important:
-The quality of the burner. A borderline defective burner can “under expose” the media to the laser beam, producing a seemingly good recording (at the time of burning) that will “fade” over time (failing weeks, months, years or decades sooner than it should have had the laser beam intensity been correct)
-Recording speed. Fast burns (52X) are probably less stable than somewhat slower burns (say 16x to 32x), but you can burn media too slowly also. There is a very good analogy here to photographic film and exposure levels. The dyes on a given media have a certain range of acceptable “exposures” and outside of that range, you can either under or over expose the media to the laser beam. However, mechanical jitter and certain other variables (largely a function of the quality of the drive) generally will be unconditionally worse at faster speeds.
-Your own handling and storage practices. On a CD, the data “exists” in a dye layer on the label side of the media. This can be scratched from the back (from the label side), which will literally and directly destroy the data. The front side is clear plastic but can also be scratched. While front side damage may make the data less readable or completely unreadable, the data is still intact and undamaged on the label side, and the scratches on the front can normally be removed by polishing the plastic. On recordable DVDs, the data is on a layer “inside” the media, but the media is a laminate of several layers and can delaminate, destroying the data. Flexing – even VERY minor flexing – is particularly bad at causing such damage. And, also, recordable DVDs tend to fail from the outside in, so you can increase your success rate and decrease the incidence of failures by not recording such media beyond 80% to 90% of capacity, leaving the outside edge, where the failure rate is greatest and failure occurs first, blank anyway.
-Labeling: The glues in adhesive labels, or the solvents in pen-type markers, both applied to the label side (the side containing the data) can SLOWLY penetrate the reflective backing and dye layers and destroy the data. Therefore, for archival media, the safest policy is to not label the CD or DVD itself at all. If you do label it, with either a label or a pen, you are, at best, taking a chance with your data (hint: it is safe to write on the clear inner hub (where there is no data at all) with a suitable pen that won’t rub off).
And, finally, I would be remiss if I did not mention one other factor which is really huge: Eraseable “RW” media is FAR less stable than one-time (“R”) media and should absolutely not be used for any permanent recordings of any kind whatsoever. There is no question that RW media can and does “fade”. Although I’ve never seen failure of “R” media that I could attribute with absolute certainty to dye instability, I routinely see “RW” recordings that are unreadable after periods of months to a year or two when there is really no other explanation for the failure. I see this both on CD-RW and DVD+/-RW media, and I advise people in the strongest possible terms not to use “RW” media for anything that they want to consider permanent. Since RW media is also both more expensive (a lot more expensive) and slower, from my perspective the decision to never even buy RW media at all is an easy one from my perspective.
Submitted by: Barry W. of North Canton, OH
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Native Java Installer - your opinion please

I'm looking for a good install utility for my java applications. Needs to be multi platform and solid.
I would appreciate your opinions as to what to use and what to avoid.
Thanks

hi,
I suppose you could give a look at Installwise (from MindVision) ,Installanywhere (ZeroG), IzPack-install (www.izforge.com).
hope that helpz
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Would you still buy a W530? | your opinion please

Greetings user,
I was really keen on purchasing the T530 W530 until i read the issues in these forums!
Im a little concerned with the heat/noise users are having with there i7 configurations.
I was wondering if anyone had any problems with there i5s?
Just making sure before i commit to buy, Thanking you
For: Photoshop/Office/Surfing Web.
i5-3360M
7 Home x64
(1600x900)
8 GB DDR3500GB HD 7200
16GB mSATA Cache Drive
DVD Recordable
WIFI N 6300 AGN
$1717 (AUS)

Cheers Thor - Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I might just have to save up a little more..
Edit:
New prices on my end!
Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz)
Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) LED Backlit AntiGlare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready
NVIDIA Quadro K1000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory
4 GB DDR3 - 1600MHz (1 DIMM)
Keyboard - US English
UltraNav with Fingerprint Reader for Color Sensor, Smart Card Reader
720p HD Camera with Microphone
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24 GB mSATA Solid State Cache Drive
DVD Recordable
Express Card Slot & 4-in-1 Card Reader & Smart Card Reader
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Again thankyou for all your posts.

Steps to link a report to Web Application Form. Post Your Opinion

Hi friends,
After going through it what is your opinion. please do post your opinion.
Could any one give the complete steps of Linking a report to web form so that when called / clicked the link the report can display the data.
I have unchecked the "Report Option -> Save Data with Reports". So that the report could not take extra space.
I have DB connection code in my .aspx.vb file, it is as follows:
Private Sub ConfigureCrystalReports()
Dim fileName As String = "Reports\" & ReportID & ".rpt"
Dim reportPath As String = Server.MapPath(fileName)
myRepDoc = New ReportDocument()
myRepDoc.Load(reportPath)
myCrystalReportViewer.ReportSource = myRepDoc
myCrystalReportViewer.RefreshReport()
Dim myConnectionInfo As ConnectionInfo = New ConnectionInfo()
If Session("reportConnectionInfo") IsNot Nothing Then
Dim ConnInforArrList As ArrayList = DirectCast(Session("reportConnectionInfo"), ArrayList)
myConnectionInfo.ServerName = ConnInforArrList(0)
myConnectionInfo.DatabaseName = ConnInforArrList(1)
myConnectionInfo.UserID = ConnInforArrList(2)
myConnectionInfo.Password = ConnInforArrList(3)
Else
lblMessage.ForeColor = Drawing.Color.Red
lblMessage.Text = "Session is off. Please Relogin to See the Report."
End If
SetDBLogonForReport(myConnectionInfo, myRepDoc)
SetDBLogonForSubreports(myConnectionInfo, myRepDoc)
myCrystalReportViewer.SelectionFormula = GetFieldName(ReportID) & "='" & Session("CompCode") & "'"
myCrystalReportViewer.Visible = True
End Sub
Private Sub SetDBLogonForReport(ByVal myConnectionInfo As ConnectionInfo, ByVal myReportDocument As ReportDocument)
Dim myTables As Tables = myReportDocument.Database.Tables
For Each myTable As CrystalDecisions.CrystalReports.Engine.Table In myTables
Dim myTableLogonInfo As TableLogOnInfo = myTable.LogOnInfo
myTableLogonInfo.ConnectionInfo = myConnectionInfo
myTable.ApplyLogOnInfo(myTableLogonInfo)
Next
End Sub
Private Sub SetDBLogonForSubreports(ByVal myConnectionInfo As ConnectionInfo, ByVal myReportDocument As ReportDocument)
Dim mySections As Sections = myReportDocument.ReportDefinition.Sections
For Each mySection As Section In mySections
Dim myReportObjects As ReportObjects = mySection.ReportObjects
For Each myReportObject As ReportObject In myReportObjects
If myReportObject.Kind = ReportObjectKind.SubreportObject Then
Dim mySubreportObject As SubreportObject = CType(myReportObject, SubreportObject)
Dim subReportDocument As ReportDocument = mySubreportObject.OpenSubreport(mySubreportObject.SubreportName)
SetDBLogonForReport(myConnectionInfo, subReportDocument)
If myReportObject.Name = "Subreport1" Then
Dim lvSec As Section = subReportDocument.ReportDefinition.Sections("DetailSection1")
If Not lvSec Is Nothing Then
Dim t1 As TextObject
t1 = lvSec.ReportObjects("txtEmpName")
t1.Text = Session.Contents("EmpName")
Dim t2 As TextObject
t2 = lvSec.ReportObjects("txtRepID")
t2.Text = Request.QueryString("REPID")
End If
End If
End If
Next
Next
End Sub
Please do help me out as the data of report is not getting displayed on the report.
After going through it what is your opinion. please do post your opinion.
While creating the Report has the following Report Options on / checked.
1. Database Server is Case-Incensitive
2. Use Indexes Or Server For Speed
3. Verify on First Refresh
4. Show Preview Panel
5. Display Alerts on Refresh
6. Select Distinct Data for Browsing
Do I have check or uncheck any other option?
Thanks and regards
Edited by: Md. Mushtaque on Sep 6, 2008 2:50 PM
Edited by: Md. Mushtaque on Sep 8, 2008 9:27 AM
Edited by: Md. Mushtaque on Sep 8, 2008 12:14 PM

Sir AG,
Thanks a lot for replying and spending your valuable time for my problem.
Sir, I just want to put this in your knowledge that my application is web based application and I am calling these reports through web forms i.e. of ASP.NET coded in vb from .aspx.vb files.
So as per the code I have attached, I have this
Option Explicit On
Imports CrystalDecisions.CrystalReports.Engine
Imports CrystalDecisions.Shared
Next for ReportDocument Object:
Dim fileName As String = "Reports\" & ReportID & ".rpt"
        Dim reportPath As String = Server.MapPath(fileName)
        myRepDoc = New ReportDocument()
        myRepDoc.Load(reportPath)
        myCrystalReportViewer.ReportSource = myRepDoc
Above is the code used by me in Page_Init and I have already tested it from Page_Load. I have got few suggestions from this forum that I should put this code in Page_Init only.
Lastly:
The database connectivity code:
Dim myConnectionInfo As ConnectionInfo = New ConnectionInfo()
        If Session("reportConnectionInfo") IsNot Nothing Then
            Dim ConnInforArrList As ArrayList = DirectCast(Session("reportConnectionInfo"), ArrayList)
            myConnectionInfo.ServerName = ConnInforArrList(0)
            myConnectionInfo.DatabaseName = ConnInforArrList(1)
            myConnectionInfo.UserID = ConnInforArrList(2)
            myConnectionInfo.Password = ConnInforArrList(3)
        Else
            lblMessage.ForeColor = Drawing.Color.Red
            lblMessage.Text = "Session is off. Please Relogin to See the Report."
        End If
        SetDBLogonForReport(myConnectionInfo, myRepDoc)
        SetDBLogonForSubreports(myConnectionInfo, myRepDoc)
SetDBLogonForReport(myConnectionInfo, myRepDoc)
Private Sub SetDBLogonForReport(ByVal myConnectionInfo As ConnectionInfo, ByVal myReportDocument As ReportDocument)
        Dim myTables As Tables = myReportDocument.Database.Tables
        For Each myTable As CrystalDecisions.CrystalReports.Engine.Table In myTables
            Dim myTableLogonInfo As TableLogOnInfo = myTable.LogOnInfo
            myTableLogonInfo.ConnectionInfo = myConnectionInfo
            myTable.ApplyLogOnInfo(myTableLogonInfo)
        Next
    End Sub
This code I have got from a sample of the forum itself.
Sir, after all these effort and the unchecking of option "Save Data with Report" on calling the reports from my forms it is showing blank report. No data from the database is coming form the database.
I have uncheked the option "Save Data with Reports" to get the updated data each time the report has been called but now the status is that nothing is coming.
Thanks again for you precious and valuable effort to help me but the my problem is unsolved, So sir please if you could put an eye on it and help me out to get rid of this problem, I will be very thankful to you for your kind help.
Thanks and regards
Mushtaque

Please give me your opinion

Hi Guys,
I was wondering if you can give me your opinion about this issue. My friend has a macboobk pro intel core duo 1.83 ghz 512mb ram and 80 gb 15" superdrive and he ask me if I want to trade it for my Macbook 2. ghz Intel core 2 duo , 1gb ram, superdrive, 80gb hd etccc...
What do you guys think? is it worth it?
Please advise
Thanks

If I were given this option, I'd go with no, only because I've formed an attachment with my macbook.
However, all the specs on the computers can be upgraded, so if you do choose to make the trade, you can upgrade the memory & ram to your liking, just not the processor speed. If you take an in depth look at the differences between the core duo and the core 2 duo, you might see some that are things you wouldn't want to live without. I've heard that the c2d have the new 802.11n capabilities, while the cd do not. Just something more to take into consideration.
Personally, I also like the 13.3 inch screen of my macbook (hence why I like it so much) better than the other size screens of other notebooks.
When I first wanted to get a mac, I was looking at the MBP's, but then I saw the macbooks and my mind was set.
It is true that your gaming experience and other graphic intensive programs will be better on the mbp, but honestly... I haven't come across anything that runs poorly on my macbook. So... I'd have to go with a no on the trade.
Just my $.02

Please give me your opinion... about tools for develop web service

If you would like to choose the tool for develop web service.
what is the most important feature that you will consider,
Please help me to order these topic from the most to the least
a. creating web service
b. creating web service client
c. searching web service to UDDI registry
d. publish web service to UDDI registry
e. connecting to database management systems.
f. license fee
g.system requirements
h. Installation procedures
thank you very much for your opinion. I will keep your information for my research....
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Hi Fangnaka,
You can use JWDSP2.0 + Tomcat 5.X +Jdk1.5 to develop and deploy webservice.
Better IDEA are Intellij or Eclipse for webservice code development.
Cheers
Rajesh R

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I heard that this book is really good for beginers " How to program in java 5th edition by Deitel" can you please give my your opinion about this book ,.
thank you.

I have Java How To Program 6th edition by Deitel and it's good but i think they could have used a little more plain English in the explanation of java.

E65 Microphone volume. Please post your opinion.

I have bought an E65, but I have a question.
When I call every peoples say me they listen me very low, (then my old phone 6630), I have try with three models of headset with cable, and without headset.
I have try to record my voice and It's true! The microphone volume it's very low then the old 6630!
This is normal? Is a problem or my phone or what? Exist the possibility to boost microphone?
Please post your opinion.

Hi,
first thing I noticed when i started making calls with my e65, a little scale is shown on the top left of the display for the conversation volume and you can adjust it with the cursor keys (left/right) during phone calls. The factory setting was in the middle of the scale and sounded pretty low, so I cranked it up immediately to top volume, after which I've always heard and been heard loud and clear. I don't know whether you already noticed that, because this setting appears only DURING active phone calls, so you might wanna give it a try...
Greetings, Ben

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Your opinion on: BSP or Java Webdynpro or ABAP Webdynpro?

Could you please give me your opinion on the business scenario we have here:
We are implementing SRM 4.0 with backend R/3 4.6C, WAS 6.4 and Portal 6.0. SRM has its typical shopping cart applications mainly for procurement and the workflow trail displaying the approval. The client wants us to build a few custom forms on the web frontend of SRM (or may be in Portal). The idea is to store these forms and display when needed with the status info just like a shopping cart.
<b>Now the requirements for these forms are as follows:</b>
1. These forms will have multiple fields which need to have the F4 kind of help. (the F4 options will reside in SRM or R/3)
2. The form should have some kind of a ALV grid (autoexpanding feature) which will allow the user to put in multiple line items so that they could submit more items on one form.
3. Users need to be able to attach a spreadsheet to the form which should not be editable once the form is submitted. The attached spreadsheet should be stored. (We are planning on using Archivelink Filenet for this)
4. Upon submission, a workflow will be kicked off as per the defined Org structure for approval of the form.
5. After submission, the user should be able to go and view the approval status of the form and also print the summary of the values that he entered in the form. (may be a smartform could be provided for this)
We looked at different options to accomplish this task:
<b>BSP:</b>
Creating BSP pages and giving access as links to the user on the webfrontend of SRM. Now, if we go the BSP route, we need to develop in SRM as the R/3 4.6 c does not have BSP development capabilities. If we take this approach, I am not sure if all the above requirements (specially like attaching spreadhseets) will be met with BSP pages.
SAP Webdynpro Java:
It seems that the Webdynpro is easier to use because of the graphical tools available. But the only problem if we go this route is that we will have to find a java guy.
SAP Webdynpro ABAP:
We currently have WAS 6.4. As per the documentation, the ABAP Webdynpro development tool is available from NW04s onwards. So, we are still not sure if we could use it. But, we want to push towards upgrading if necessary. Being an old time ABAPer, developing ABAP Webdynpro seems do-able. (i know it may not be that easy).
Last but not the least, DIALOG Program:
Creating a dialog program in R/3 or SRM seems fairly simple. Then, an iview could be created on the portal for this transaction, though at this point I am not sure how a spreadsheet could be attached and stored within a dialog program.
The creation of the workflow may not be that bad after the original form is designed. The graphical display of the approval trail might be difficult, but we might get away with a report for that. For printing the details of the form, I guess I could develop a smartform and put out a button on the screen to print it out in the display view.
Could you please give me your opinion / best approach for accomplishing this task, keeping in mind the complexities of these new dimension products?
Thanks
Sri

I would say that all four solutions to solving your tasks are technically feasible. Here are some thoughts that I had however:
First ABAP Webdynpro: it is true that ABAP webdynpro is only available with Netweaver04s. 04S is still in ramp-up which means that only a subset of the customer base is allow to implement it. It will not become generally available until later this year (check the service marketplace for current release estimates). That being said, it probably elimintes WDA as a possiblity for your project unless you are will to wait and to upgrade.
However having worked with WDA for a while it is probably the best tool to custom develop what you describe. It has excellent built-in F4 value help. It also has a damn fine ALV grid implementation. The spreadsheet could be just as simple as file upload in binary or your could try your hand at office integration. Finally for the form you could use Adobe Interactive Forms which also has very nice integration into WDA.
Now to Dialog Programming: You could of course use dialog programming. It seems a little bit of a waste to custom build something so large if WDA is in your near future. There are obvious disadvantages (little OO structure, no MVC, etc). You would have ALV grid, office integration and of course F4 help. You could still use Adobe forms if you implement this on the 640 system. However there are integration points with dialog and Adobe Interactive Forms. You could still use printed forms however. If you did the dialog program on the 640 system, you could use the integrated ITS to expose it to the web. The integrated ITS in my experience has quite nice performance although the look and feel remains just like the SAPGui.
The Java Webdynpro route: Well you hit the nail on the head - if you don't have a Java programmer already and you don't have the bandwidth to invest in learning Java, this can be a problem. The Java Webdynpro environment is quite nice. There are some things I like better than ABAP and some things that ABAP is defintely still better at. However when it comes to heavy integration with an ABAP backend - ABAP Webdynpro is still the way to go. Java Webdynpro does have a help feature (OVS), but it isn't "for free" or nearly as nice as the ABAP Webdynpro (perhaps it will get there some day). That is one of the major advantages of WDA - its closeness to the business data brings several framework advantages like F4 and field help. WebDynpro Java in 640 also doesn't have an ALV grid implementation. I am sure that this is something both environments will eventually have, but right now ABAP has the advantage. On the other hand, Webdynpro Java has equal support when it comes to office integration, file upload, and Adobe Forms support. You would have a more difficult time integration SmartForms however.
Finally we come to BSP. Honestly if I were in your position I would probably choose BSP (unless you could wait for the ABAP Webdynpro upgrade). You could build a nice MVC OO application using BSP (stateful or stateless). The BSP product is mature and quite well documented thanks to SDN. You have the BSP Extensions which when used in Design2003 use the Unified Renderer. That means that your output will look nearly identical to the same UI elements in Webdynpro. Also BSP supports portal integration (session management, eventing, and themes).
The downside to BSP is that it isn't a full framework (also one of its advantages). You can insert all your own html and javascript (unlike webdynpro). But this also means that SAP doesn't delivery as many framework services. For instance there is no ALV or Value Help. There is no Office Integration or Adobe Forms integration. There is some farily good Smart Forms integration. Now the upside- many people have already hit these limitations and overcame them. In the weblogs on SDN and in a certain SAP Press book (cough, cough) you will find out of the box solutions for many of these problems. You can find ready to use solutions for Adobe Integration, Office Integration (using Microsoft Office Web Controls), and F4 help. It will mean investing a little more time up front to get this "home grown framework" up and running - but it is perfectly feasible.
There is a learning curve to all these new technologies however. This sounds like an abmious project. I wouldn't want to try and tackle this project in any of these technologies if I was new to them. With Webdynpro or BSP - consider giving yourself time to learn the environment and cut your teeth on some demo apps before jumping into such a huge development.

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