Empties/returnable packaging pricing
Is it possible to setup SD pricing conditions for empties or returnable packaging? I have setup pricing conditions for these types of materials, but when I input the material on the sales order, no pricing condtions are found. From what I've read so far, you cannot setup conditions for returnable packaging. If so, how can I handle the following scenario-
We want to charge the customer a deposit for the packaging ($250) at the time of the sale, then return the deposit once the packaging is picked up.
Thanks in advance,
-Scott
Hi
Please go through the below link.
returnable packaging scenario
hope this will help u
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Krishna O
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Customer empties returnable packaging
Hi guys,
I am facing with an issue regarding customer empties returns. The scenario is as below:
Scenario:
The customer provides the company with empty barrels. The company then fills the barrels and returns the filled barrels to the specific customers. Not all barrels are consumed at one go. The remaining barrels will go in the next order but there is no surety when the customer places the next order. The barrels might lie in the company premises for more than six months.
For the scenario mentioned above I will have to maintain customer specific stock at company's inventory, but I can't figure out how to customise the above scenario. The barrels which are provided by the customer cannot be considered for valuation.
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ZakWich release are you running ? are you using some industry solution ?
basically you have to define a new material type like UNBW (non valuated stock) that is only managed by quantity.
You can also define a specific storage location to put the barrels into, just to define that this is a customer warehouse.
Furthermore if you are dealing with clear packing specifications you can customize the handling unit management in delivery so that when you dleiver something the packing rules pack the goods, create the barrel items in the delivery and the post the goods movement to empty the wharehouse.
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Returnable packaging from customers
Hi,
how Returnable packaging from customers is handled in sd module... in sales order, delivery.... etc.
could someone explain with the help of a business scenario with config.
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sachinHi..
When you sell goods to a customer, you may send the goods in returnable packaging. During sales order processing, you simply enter the returnable packaging as an item in your order. You can process returnable packaging either as main items or as sub-items. For example, if you sell drinks in bottles and want the empty bottles to be returned, you can enter the bottles as sub-items for the drinks in the sales order. The item category group LEIH must be assigned to the bottles in the material master record so that they are processed as returnable packaging. During processing, the system recognizes that it is dealing with returnable packaging because the item category group LEIH is assigned to the material. The system then determines another item category in the sales order to allow the material to be processed as returnable packaging. As a result of entering returnable packaging in a sales order, the system carries out the following actions.
If special stock does not yet exist in your inventory for the customer (or special stock partner), the system creates it when goods issue is posted
The relevant quantity is removed from regular inventory in your plant and is added to the special stock for the customer. The total valuated stock for the plant remains the same.
The transaction is not relevant for pricing since the consignment stock remains the property of your company.
Returnable Packaging Pick-Up
If the customer returns the returnable packaging to you, you record the transaction in the system by creating a returnable packaging pick-up order (order type LA). As a result, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from the customeru2019s special stock and is added back into your regular stock at the plant where the goods are returned. Your total valuated stock remains the same since the returned stock was regarded as part of your own inventory even while it was at the customeru2019s premises.
This transaction is not relevant for billing.
Returnable Packaging Issue
In the following situations, you can create a returnable packaging issue order (order type LN):
The customer decides to keep the returnable packaging
The customer damages the returnable packaging and you decide to charge the customer
The customer sells the returnable packaging to a third party
As a result of processing a returnable packaging issue, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from both the customeru2019s special stock and your own total valuated stock.
The transaction is relevant for billing since the goods have become the property of the customer.
Sales Order Types
The following table provides an overview of the order types used in the standard system for processing returnable packaging:
Transaction
Sales order type
Returnable packaging pick-up
LA
Returnable packaging issue
LN
When you ship returnable packaging to the customer, you do not need to use a special order type. The transaction is a normal business transaction and you can use either a standard sales order or, if appropriate, a free of charge delivery.
Pricing and Availability Check
Whether pricing is carried out for the individual transactions depends on the item category. The schedule line category controls the availability check and the transfer of requirements in each of the transactions. The schedule line category itself is determined by the item category and the MRP type of the material. The order types LN and LA check against returnable packaging for the relevant customer. Requirement records for returnable packaging stock are stored as individual requirements, independently of the setting in the material master record.
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Returnable packing material
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MM -
returnable packaging scenario
Hi,
Returnable packaging consists of materials that are stored at the customer location but which remain the property of your company. The customer is only required to pay you for the returnable packaging if he does not return it to you by a specified time. Using this function you can, for example, process euro-pallets. You can also use it to resell returnable packaging to a third party. Since stocks of returnable packaging form part of your valuated stock even when they are at the customer site, you must manage them in your system.
However, stocks of returnable packaging must be
Managed separately from the rest of your stock so that you know exactly what stock is stored at the customer location
Managed separately for each customer
Inventory management treats returnable packaging as special stock in your inventory and is assigned to specific customers. This enables you to keep track of returnable packaging stock by customer.
Prerequisites
Settings in the Material Master Record
A prerequisite for returnable packaging processing is that the value LEIH (returnable packaging) is entered in the material master record on the second sales screen in the Item category group field. This entry in combination with the document type automatically determines the appropriate item category for each transaction involving the material.
Settings for the Special Stock Partner
You must define a special stock partner for processing returnable packaging when a third party is involved. This means you can manage all special stock under one partner. You might use this partner function if your customer, for example, uses a decentralized order processing system but manages returnable packaging centrally. You can also use this partner function to process returnable packaging when a carrier is involved (for example, for euro-pallets). If you want to process returnable packaging using the special stock partner, first make the settings which are described for Consignment Stock Processing.
If you want to manage returnable packaging for a carrier, for whom a vendor record already exists, you must also create a customer master record for the carrier. You are then able to assign returnable packaging stock to the carrier.
Process Flow
There are three main transactions for processing returnable packaging, all of which support separate inventory management:
Creating Returnable Packaging Shipments
Creating Returnable Packaging Pick-Up
Creating Returnable Packaging Issue
Returnable Packaging Shipments
When you sell goods to a customer, you may send the goods in returnable packaging. During sales order processing, you simply enter the returnable packaging as an item in your order. You can process returnable packaging either as main items or as sub-items. For example, if you sell drinks in bottles and want the empty bottles to be returned, you can enter the bottles as sub-items for the drinks in the sales order. The item category group LEIH must be assigned to the bottles in the material master record so that they are processed as returnable packaging. During processing, the system recognizes that it is dealing with returnable packaging because the item category group LEIH is assigned to the material. The system then determines another item category in the sales order to allow the material to be processed as returnable packaging. As a result of entering returnable packaging in a sales order, the system carries out the following actions:
If special stock does not yet exist in your inventory for the customer (or special stock partner), the system creates it when goods issue is posted
The relevant quantity is removed from regular inventory in your plant and is added to the special stock for the customer. The total valuated stock for the plant remains the same.
The transaction is not relevant for pricing since the consignment stock remains the property of your company.
Returnable Packaging Pick-Up
If the customer returns the returnable packaging to you, you record the transaction in the system by creating a returnable packaging pick-up order (order type LA). As a result, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from the customers special stock and is added back into your regular stock at the plant where the goods are returned. Your total valuated stock remains the same since the returned stock was regarded as part of your own inventory even while it was at the customers premises.
This transaction is not relevant for billing.
Returnable Packaging Issue
In the following situations, you can create a returnable packaging issue order (order type LN):
The customer decides to keep the returnable packaging
The customer damages the returnable packaging and you decide to charge the customer
The customer sells the returnable packaging to a third party
As a result of processing a returnable packaging issue, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from both the customers special stock and your own total valuated stock.
The transaction is relevant for billing since the goods have become the property of the customer.
Sales Order Types
The following table provides an overview of the order types used in the standard system for processing returnable packaging:
Transaction
Sales order type
Returnable packaging pick-up
LA
Returnable packaging issue
LN
When you ship returnable packaging to the customer, you do not need to use a special order type. The transaction is a normal business transaction and you can use either a standard sales order or, if appropriate, a free of charge delivery.
Pricing and Availability Check
Whether pricing is carried out for the individual transactions depends on the item category. The schedule line category controls the availability check and the transfer of requirements in each of the transactions. The schedule line category itself is determined by the item category and the MRP type of the material. The order types LN and LA check against returnable packaging for the relevant customer. Requirement records for returnable packaging stock are stored as individual requirements, independently of the setting in the material master record.
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sadhu kishore -
thnkss for the process chart for Returnable packaging but i request u to help me wit the customization settings for Returnable packaging......and also how things are to be defined in MMAster for the same
Hello Maddy,
<b>Returnable packaging (Special Stock V)</b>
Returnable packaging material is used as it is not always possible for a company to include the cost of packaging material in the cost of sale, as some packaging material could be expensive enough that the company cannot afford the customer to keep or destroy it.
Thus returnable packaging is used in the process where by the business sells items to the customer packed in shipping units such as boxes and crates. The customer is expected to return the packaging items i.e. boxes and crates in a certain period of time, if not, the business may bill the customer.
Returnable packaging is considered as SPECIAL STOCK and is indicated by letter V , this packaging is kept at the customers location but will remain the property of your company. The special stock can be seen using the stock overview screen MMBE.
There is no special order type for returnable packaging like in the case of consignment. The packaging material master record should use the material type VERP and the item category group LEIH (MRP2 - MMR). The item category group LEIH is the sap standard for returnable packaging.
There are three main transactions for processing returnable packaging, all of which support separate inventory management:
Creating Returnable Packaging Shipments
Creating Returnable Packaging Pick-Up
Creating Returnable Packaging Issue (should the customer not return the packaging material)
<b>Returnable Packaging Shipments</b>
When you sell goods to a customer, you may send the goods in returnable packaging. During sales order processing, you simply enter the returnable packaging as an item in your order. You can process returnable packaging either as main items or as sub-items. For example, if you sell drinks in bottles and want the empty bottles to be returned, you can enter the bottles as sub-items for the drinks in the sales order. The item category group LEIH must be assigned to the bottles in the material master record (packaging material) so that they are processed as returnable packaging. During processing, the system recognizes that it is dealing with returnable packaging because the item category group LEIH is assigned to the material. The system then determines another item category in the sales order to allow the material to be processed as returnable packaging. As a result of entering returnable packaging in a sales order, the system carries out the following actions:
If special stock does not yet exist in your inventory for the customer (or special stock partner), the system creates it when goods issue is posted
The relevant quantity is removed from regular inventory in your plant and is added to the special stock for the customer. The total valuated stock for the plant remains the same.
The transaction is not relevant for pricing since the consignment stock remains the property of your company.
<b>Returnable Packaging Pick-Up</b>
If the customer returns the returnable packaging to you, you record the transaction in the system by creating a returnable packaging pick-up order (order type LA). As a result, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from the customers special stock and is added back into your regular stock at the plant where the goods are returned. Your total valuated stock remains the same since the returned stock was regarded as part of your own inventory even while it was at the customers premises.
This transaction is not relevant for billing.
Returnable Packaging Issue
In the following situations, you can create a returnable packaging issue order (order type LN):
The customer decides to keep the returnable packaging
The customer damages the returnable packaging and you decide to charge the customer
The customer sells the returnable packaging to a third party
As a result of processing a returnable packaging issue, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from both the customers special stock and your own total valuated stock.
The transaction is relevant for billing since the goods have become the property of the customer.
<b>Sales Order Types</b>
The following table provides an overview of the order types used in the standard system for processing returnable packaging:
Transaction Sales order type
Returnable packaging pick-up LA
Returnable packaging issue LN
When you ship returnable packaging to the customer, you do not need to use a special order type. The transaction is a normal business transaction and you can use either a standard sales order or, if appropriate, a free of charge delivery.
<b>Reward if helps</b>
<b>Regards
Sai</b> -
Returnable packaging in customer consignment process
I have this scenario:
I have returnable packaging (drums) that have been setup as non valuated materials in SAP. The item category in deliveries in YB10.
These drums have serial numbers. Since some maintenance needs to be done on these drums from time to time, therefore, equipment's need to be created for the drums. The equipment number and serial number are the same and the serial number profile is setup in such a way that the equipment is created automatically when the serial number is created
When the drums are in stock, the status is ESTO
Now, in the normal order to cash process, this is what happens:
1) Sales order - order is created for a material
2) Delivery - The drums are added to the delivery along with the material through a packing proposal. A serial number is specified for the drum and the order is PGI'ed to the customer
At this point, the status of the equipment/serial number changes to ECUS
3) Billing - normal billing (drums are billed)
4) Return delivery YBG5 - the empty drum is accepted back into warehouse
After PGR, the status of the serial number changes back to ESTO
During the customer consignment process, this is what is happening:During the consignment fill up when stock goes from warehouse to customer, the status of the serial number is changing to ECUS
During consignment issue, since we can only issue whatever material is there, the same serial number that was used during fill up is being used
However, when we do a delivery against the consignment issue, we are getting an error that the status of the serial number is ECUS and it is not suitable for movement
Since consignment stock is still owned by the company until an consignment issue is done, I am wondering whether SAP is behaving correctly by changing the status of the serial umber to ECUS after the consignment fill up.
Is there a way to use the same serial number in the consignment issue as the consignment fill up?
Please reply urgentlyTry the following
Go to OMWB transaction and simulate the posting using your plant, material and movement type
The simulation will show the standard postings based upon goods movement
E.G. 601 GBB VAX valuation class, account
Identify your accounts assigned to both sides of the posting and then you should be able to re-assign the g/l accounts to the appropriate modifier string within OBYC
Hope it helps
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Returnable Packaging - Handling ASN's for their return delivery
Two of our customers are sending us ASN's when they ship the empty returnable containers back to us. Unfortunately, the ASN IDoc's Red-Light because there is no MM Order for them.
The normal process is working - when the truck arrives, we process a Delivery against the LA order to receive them back into Inventory. It's quick and easy, but the IDoc's are still out there hanging.
So is there a way to make the ASN's work within the Returnable Packaging scenario? If I make an MM Order for these items, will it disrupt the RP scenario? I.e., it has to not only add them back in to our inventory, but it also has to decrease the customer's inventory at the same time.
Thanks in advance for any ideas, suggestions, or comments.Hi David
you have sent the returnable packaging with regards to Sales Order right? but when IDOCs are coming it should update the sales order and PGR (Post Goods Receipt)
What i understand is that we need to change the IDOC type for incoming sales order type to update the sales order and create delivery & PGR
Manu -
Dear Expert,
I've a scenario whereby the MM consultant try to push the SD consultant for the scenario below:
- There is FOC returnable packaging (wooden pallet) for PO to ship back the these to the supplier in oversea
- These wooden packaging will be arranged to ship back to the supplier when reached 150 pcs
- user want to keep track of the quantity in the system
- user want to print a pro-forma invoice when the shipment arranged info the custom
- user wanted to show/print the price on the pro-forma invoice
In SD side , the solution I can think of is:
- via sale doc (sales order doc & delivery doc)
- set up customer master
- set up pricing
- develop pro-forma invoice or delivery note
In MM side,
- via return PO doc
- the vendor master already there
- set up pricing
- develop pro-forma invoice or a form call delivery note
Question:
- should the above done in SD?
- is the solution come from SD is the best option?
Looking forwards to hear from you. Many thanks.
Best regards,
AwHi Aw,
Create material masters for returnable packaging with item category group LEIH. When you create a sales order & outbound delivery, returnable packaging materials will be listed in them and they can be tracked with their material codes. You can include statistical condition type in your sales pricing procedure to show indicative price for packaging materials. This indicative price will flow to your shipment documents as well.
When the customer wants to return the packaging materials, you can use order type LA, item category LAN is not relevant for billing and post goods receipt.
If the customer decides to keep the returnable packaging materials, then enter the transaction in your system with order type LN (issue order). LNN is relevant for billing and you can use new pricing procedure to charge customer for packaging materials in LN. Price can be same as indicated in the original sales order or be different as per your agreement with customer.
Karuna -
Returnable Packaging ...Third party subcontracting
Hello SAP Eperts,
This is third party subcontracting scenario but is for RTP material.
1. Import Vendor "A" will send material in returnable packaging RTP to plant "P"
3. Bank guarantee will be provided to return the RTP within 6 months. If not returned, "P" will have to pay duty with penalty on the same
4. The movement of RTP should generate alerts say at end of 4,4.5,5 5.5 months
5. GR will be done for RTP in "P"
6. RTP material is dispatched to subcontracting vendor "B",
7. RTP will be returned to "P" by subcontracting vendor "B"
8. "P" has to send back the empties [RTP] to "A" without payment of duty
How to configure in SAP. Please describe complete process
Thanks
TusharIt is realy a complex business to be mapped in SAP..
1 RTP can be received as free tick or with transport equipment..
2 For mapping bank guarranty consult with FI...for FI functionality..
3 movement of RTP should generate alerts say at end of 4,4.5,5 5.5 months---->
For this u have to maintain work flow.. Consult Abaper
4 RTP subcontracting can be mapped in STD,
5 By return PO or 122/502 this can be send back to vendor -
STO for semi finished product along with returnable package
Dear Experts,
I am transferring semi finished product along with returnable package from Manufacturing to depot, for that i am creating purchase order (two line items in po, one is semi finish and other is returnable package) and creating delivery through VL10B.
system creates delivery, showing the item category NLN for both line items i..e semi finished and returnable package and billing(vf01) is coming for both item.
my requirement is billing to be only semi finished, returnable package should be update only qty billing should not coming for returnable package
for that which item category have to maintain and where it maintain for returnable package and how it flows from mm to SD?
Regards
sai krishnaThe packagings material master record should use the material type VERP for packaging and the item category group LEIH. The item category group LEIH is the SAP standard for returnable packaging.
TAL (the item category for returnable packaging) in the shipping unit
header, then when you create the delivery, SAP will also create an item TAL for that shipping material in the delivery. When you goods issue the delivery, SAP will record that this shipping material has been issued to the customer and must be returned. Note that you only have to price the returnable packaging in the returnable packaging issue order document. It does not need to
be priced in the sales order and cannot be in this method.
Check if this all ok, rest please note returnable packaging material behaves in same way as packing material -
Regarding Returnable Packaging
Hi Gurus,
I have a problem that for a liquid of say Liquid PH-5 ,1 litre must be packed in a returnable packaging material bottle-BV1,
The bottle can hold only 1 litre of the liquid and in sales order and Delivery level if i go for Packing Proposal the material is packed in the Returnable Packaging Material BV1.
But the Quantity of the Returnable Pack Material does not get updated.
How to solve this problem?
Regards,
SaroshDear Sarosh
Please check following
The packagings material master record should use the material type VERP for packaging and the item category group LEIH. The item category group LEIH is the SAP standard for returnable packaging. - Check for your bottle BV1.
TAL (the item category for returnable packaging) in the shipping unit
header, then when you create the delivery, SAP will also create an item TAL for that shipping material in the delivery. When you goods issue the delivery, SAP will record that this shipping material has been issued to the customer and must be returned. Note that you only have to price the returnable packaging in the returnable packaging issue order document. It does not need to
be priced in the sales order and cannot be in this method.
Check if this all ok, rest please note returnable packaging material behaves in same way as packing material
In case you are still not able to do it, revert back
Regards
Jitesh -
Returnable packaging with rental in is-mill 6.0
hello sappers,
can any one guide me with the step as how to config returnable packaging with rental calculation also need the pricing procedure for credit and debit memo calculation.
regards
AnilHi,
For returnable packing you need to create material with material type LEIH Returnable packing.
The item category and Gen Item Category should be LEIH.
When we receive the returnable material back from the customer the document type i.e order type is LA - Retn Packing pick -up.
In the delivery - we need to do Post good receipt . this will update the stock i.e in mmbe if you check the stock of returnable matl , it will show the packing matl at customer end. when we do the PGR , the stock from customer stock gets reduced and the stock at our end ( storgate location ) will increase.
If we do not receive the material , we need to debit the amount to the customer.For doing this, you need to create the document with order type LN.
Go do delivery and do the PGI ( pcik up is not required as the material is already picked up) . After PGI to to VF01 for billing and to the billing with reference to delivery doc no. The amount you would like to debit will get debited to customer a/c.on flaging .
Hope this will resolve your issue.
Best regards,
Subodh Baxi -
Hello happy new year to all of u ....
can any boday explain me about return package that what is the return package and the how pricing is created for this material ...
Thanks and regardsDear gaurav
Check the links
[Returnable Transport Packaging|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/4d/2b921143ad11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]
Thanks
G. Lakshmipathi -
Returnable packaging-vendor and customer sides
Dear Experts,
I have searched through the internet as well as on this forum but I was not able to find the information I am looking for.
I have the following issue concerning the Returnable packaging process in SAP:
I need to gather overall information concerning the returnable packaging.
The process is as follows:
My vendor provides me with some materials that come with returnable packaging (e.g.Pallet01) -> Assuming I am just a middleman, I sell the goods to my customer and also send them on the same Pallet01 (one day my customer must return the pallet to me and I must return it to the vendor).
- What are the settings I must set in customizing and in material master?
- How would the process look like in the system (for example are there specific settings I must make to be able to see the packaging per customer in MB58 (I have set item category group LEIH in material master - is this the only setting to assure this, plus I am not sure if the field where I should put LEIH is General item category group or Item category group - both on Sales: sales org.2 tab in material master; Plus is there any way I can control what settings does item category group have? When I go to SPRO Sales and Distribution->Sales->Sales Document->Sales Document Item->Define Item Category Groups - there is no option to click inside the certain group))?
- In what report I can see how many Pallets I owe to the vendor and how many Pallets each customer should return to me (is there one report that would show everything or do I have to use separate reports)?
- How do I proceed if the vendor decides to invoice me for the pallets or I decide to invoice my customer (I would like to know the best practices)?
I tried to enter packaging from vendor to special stock type M (with move 501 M added to the goods receipt for PO), than it's working to see it in the stock report assigned to that particular vendor. But what if (and this is the case) I am selling the goods on the same packaging to my customer? Cause I am not able to add the pallets from special stock M to the outbound deliver.
Thank you in advance,
KrystynaDear Vikram Shukla,
In fact, my question is more related to how to link the returnable packaging with the vendor - raw materials combination (PIR), which for my understanding is more related to sourcing part.
Anyway, could you please advice how could I transfer my question to MM forum?
Many thanks in advance and best regards-
Mengyu -
How to enter a returnable packaging material during inbound delivery?
Hi,
How do you add a returnable packaging material from vendor as a line item in the inbound delivery? When I try to add a LEIH type material as a line item in the inbound delivery (VL32N), the following error is displayed:
"No item category exists (Table T184L EL VERP ELP)"
Thanking you in advance,
SreelakshmiHI.
Please reffer the below link.
ERROR : No item category exists (Table T184L LB VERP )
Error while creating I/B delivery: No item category exists (Table T184L EL)
1) EL = is the delivery type you are using for Returns to Vendors
2) VERP = is the Item Category Group in the material master of
3) ELP= Item Usage
You have to add the missing configuration as follow:
IMGLogistics ExecutionShippingDeliveriesDefine Item Category
Determination in Deliveries(Transaction 0184).
Create a new entry or copy from an existing one for VERP. NOTE: The Delivery Item Category RLLN is the standard defined by SAP, be
sure you enter the one defined in you company.
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