MX02 or MX02 mini

I need to do some color correction on a few short films, mostly for film festivals. I've explained to the producer that I would need more than my MBP screen to monitor properly. She said "What do you need to get?" My understanding is that the MX02 mini would be a good choice. Or perhaps the MX02. And then I could use a consumer TV monitor.
A few questions:
The mini doesn't support HD-SDI. Is that a big deal? I'm just not sure what I'd ever need that for.
Also, what exactly are the limitations as to 23.98 frame rates? I often edit 23.98 timelines. Any problem monitoring and outputting those?
For those of you getting the MX02 rather than the MX02 mini, what are your main reasons that the mini is inadequate?
Thanks for any advice.

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I have a Power Mac G5 Running Mac OSX 10.5.8 I recently got the MX02 Mini Max by Matrox to run my Final Cut Studio application version 6.6 and Im having problems with the pci board that comes with the matrox unit ( it does not fit in the mother board) how would i be able to use this with out connecting the pci board into my mother board on my Mac.?

Can't use it with a G5.
System requirements are Mac Pro and Intel-based MacBook Pro running Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.6 or higher.
IF (big if) the card is PPC Mac compatible, only Late 2005 G5 machines have PCIe. All other G5s are PCI.
The Matrox card is PCIe, not PCI.

FCP 7 and Matrox MX02 mini has bad audio playback

This problem has been frustrating me for months.
I have FCP setup to output video and audio via my marox MX02 mini. The mini is hooked up to HDMI and component, and RCA audio.
When playing back on the timeline in FCP the audio stutters, echos and drops out.
I've been bugging them at the Matrox forum, and each new update that comes out claims to fix the problem, and it gets a little better, but honestly it is still nowhere near satisfactory.
It's worst when stepping 1 frame at a time or scrubbing thru footage.
Does anyone else experience this problem? Am I doing something wrong?

What drivers are you running? What footage type are you working with? Format, frame rate...
Thanks,
Shane

Speedgrade with Matrox MX02 Mini

Has anyone had success getting SG to display on an external monitor via Matrox MX02 Mini? PP, AE, even PS can output to the monitor via Matrox MX02, but not SG. If I delete the PluginCache64 folder in regedit, it will show up as a display option the next time I launch, but then if I close and relaunch SG, it's no longer an option. Matrox says it should work. Adobe support says it doesn't but maybe in the next version. Anyone got a fix? I am on Windows 7 64-bit. :atest Matrox driver (installed after CC).

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Just got a new Matrox MX02 Mini. I'v installed the PCIe card seemingly successfully - it's showing up in the system profiler under "Other Multimedia". I downloaded and installed the software package 2.0 from the Matrox site.
But when I go into Final Cut I get no option for Matrox under Video Playback. And no video or audio is playing through my Matrox (as far as I can tell).
I'm on a Mac Pro running 10.6.4 and Final Cut 6.0.6. Trying to go out from my Matrox HDMI to a Panasonic HD TV monitor and with audio going to external speakers.
Thanks for any help.
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Just got my new MXO2 Mini MAX, and it won't even power up. The pci-e card does NOT show up in the System Profiler under PCI cards. I tried the card in two other slots, still not showing up as being seen by the MacPro (2009 Quad Intel). The card also did not show up when installed in our other MacPro (2007 Intel). All cable connections, including power are according to Hoyle. Should I be seeing a light come on inside the MXO2 mini box? As it is now, no light, no life.
I pre-installed the driver, and in System Prefs the Matrox MXO2 mini icon reports: "..video hardware not found." The Product Name, S/N, and Firmware Version are all blank lines. Software version is 2.0.0.
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Matrox MX02 Mini and FCP 7...

We have been using the MX02 Mini essentially for HD monitoring and have run across a few issues that have hindered productivity. It appears that one or two of these issues have been fixed in the latest 2.2.1 software release. The following remain. Has anyone experienced the same?
1) Audio scrubbing... audio cannot be heard on a per frame basis, usually audio is heard every three
frames or so.
Apparently this has not been fixed.
2) Audio playback. In the viewer... Hit play... Playback begins but the audio drops out and then
resumes... hit stop and playback repeats the last bit of what was playing before you hit stop.
3) Audio distorts, similar to an analog overdrive sound, when hitting play every 10 times or so.
Most of the projects that we are working with are Apple Pro Res 422 @ 23.98, Audio 48khz/16 bits.
Most of our computers are as described... 2 x 2.26GHz Quad Core Mac Pro running 10.6.6 and FCP 7.0.3.
Hard drives are local external 2TB G-RAIDs with plenty of room. We have check all of our media to make sure that it matches our sequence settings.
I realize that there are Matrox advocates out there, but we seem to have a hard time getting the MX02 Minis to work reliably.
All ideas are welcome. Note that we are working with Matrox support as well.
Thanks,
Scott

1) Audio scrubbing... audio cannot be heard on a per frame basis, usually audio is heard every three frames or so. Apparently this has not been fixed.
Well, that actually is the main thing that was addressed in that update. I didn't have the issue for a while, then I upgraded to snow leopard, and there it was. But that was something with the 2.0 and first 2.1 drivers. But the latest driver that was just released, 2.1.1...fixes that. For a lot of people, me included:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/132/860478
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/132/860397
As for the other issues, that are all audio related... they should have been addressed too.
Make sure to update PROPERLY. Uninstall the older drivers, then restart. Install the new drivers... and when the updates erase and then update the firmware, when the computer will shut down, and you need to unplug the MXO2 mini for at least 5 seconds, then plug it back in. Then start up the system.
Shane

MATROX MX02 mini on NTSC monitor

hi, i just bought this product and it is a bear to set up. tech support closed. i am hoping someone out there with this unit might be able to help.
i am trying to connect it to my Sony PVM broadcast monitor, which is SD. i am going RGB out on mini via monster cables to RGB component in on the NTSC monitor (which has BNC connectors, but i have RCA adapters. I am using the NTSC setup in Final Cut. Nothing on screen. Can anyone help me?

There is a large list of flavors to play out when you chose Matrox in FCP in the playback tab - in that giant list, you have to match whatever your playing to. So, in your case, set it to NTSC. It doesn't actually say "down convert".
pJ

MX02 Mini Questions (2)

First off, this is really for people who already own a Matrox MXO2 Mini or are familiar with it. I just purchased one, and am using it with FCP 6 and a consumer 32" 1080p 120Hz LCD set from Samsung (and yes, I do know that the 120Hz is the actual refresh rate of the set and not just the horrible "Auto Motion 120Hz" hype that looks awful and which I happily have turned off).
The first question I have is about the 1080p function of the Mini. I actually have the question in to Matrox (which has excellent support, btw), because right now it seems that the Mini only supports monitoring 1080psf (segmented frames). I'm not bothered by this as long as it works, but I find it odd that it doesn't do true 1080p monitoring (which it does with 720, and 486, etc.). Wondering how psf really works, and if true 1080p monitoring would be more desirable for any reason.
The second question is in regards to picture monitoring over Component vs. over HDMI. When I send HD signals over both, I notice little difference. But I see a HUGE difference with SD signals - the main one being the fact that when I park a frame on a interlaced image, monitoring over component the frame is totally motionless, and looks like a "progressive" view of both fields simultaneously (with what I refer to as an interlaced "jaggies" around the edges). When I park on the same frame in HDMI, the interlacing is the usual flicker that I notice on a CRT monitor parked on 2 fields at once. (Hopefully that explanation made sense).
Why this difference? Is it just a function of my Samsung? When I click on the "info" button on my TV while viewing these sources, over Component the TV says "720x480i" (and the parked frame looks very "still" but "jaggie"), while over HDMI it says "720x480" but no "i", (and the parked frame here looks "flickering" and full of motion)
Huh? Shouldn't this be just the opposite?
The differences don't end there, either. Over HDMI, several shots that were taken outdoors with a lot of background trees have really weird flicker on the edges of these trees and other objects. This happens both while playing, and when parked on a frame. They do not appear to be an interlacing issue, as sometimes they go away when I advance a frame at a time, and are unable to be reproduced exactly.
This flicker does not happen with the same scenes over Component. And in neither case is the motion otherwise strange.
What's going on here? Anyone have any clues? Again, could this be a problem or issue with my TV, as opposed to the Mini? And should I have perhaps invested in a better (if smaller) Video monitor if I wanted to do true color correction?
Thanks for any info!

I just got mine today and have played with it a little, including hooking it up to a couple HDTVs and playing out 720p 23.98, 1080p 23.98 and 1080i 29.97.
Wondering how psf really works
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivesegmentedframe
and if true 1080p monitoring would be more desirable for any reason.
No....it isn't. And this is one thing that people seem to demand but have no idea what it means. TRUE 24P monitoring, for either 720p or 1080p...is NOT desireable. Why? It flickers. Why does it flicker? Because as you noted, your TV is a 120Hz LCD. NTSC power is 60Hz based, so they work well. 24 doesn't go evenly into 120Hz, nor 60Hz, so it flickers. Even on high end $35,000 HD CRTs it flickers. NO ONE monitors at true 24P because of this. They send a 23.98 signal out in a 29.97 stream...adding pulldown as it goes out...so that it will play smoothly. Because 29.97...really 30fps, 60 interlaced fields, goes into 120Hz evenly. 120Hz is easily divisible by 30 and 60...if you get my meaning.
This happens with a PAL monitor if it is connected to an NTSC power source. In PAL land you can monitor 25P all day long, no flicker. Their power is all 50Hz based, and 25 goes into 50 evenly. But plug that monitor into a 60Hz power, and play 25P or 50i footage, and you get flicker.
The mini has 23.98 settings for 720p and 23.98 psf for 1080i, and that adds pulldown when it plays so that you don't get flicker. I played both types on two different HDTVs and it looked AWESOME.
No clue about why SD looks progressive while HD does the interlaced dance. I noticed that the interlaced footage I had didn't do that two-field shuffle on the HDTVs...it showed the jaggie lines I saw on my computer monitor. So to see proper interlacing you need a monitor that shows it...HDTVs aren't designed to show interlacing...they are all PROGRESSIVE monitors. I'm guessing that your Samsung was like the one I used tonight...it cannot show interlacing.
No idea what is occuring on the outdoor footage you have. I was looking at Africa safari footage and interlaced re-creations from a documentary and progressive footage of people on the street. I didn't see anything like what you described. But I was only viewing via HDMI. I'm still playing.
And I really like it. I got the MAX version, and so far rendering to H.264 has been sped up 300%.
Shane

CS4 and Matrox MX02 Mini with MAX

CS4 sucks.
Is there some kind of written rule that eac new version has be worse than the previous ?
Why does Adobe keep cutting out the tools and processes we, I, want the most !
Examples;
WHY doe Adobe STILL refuse to put back in stop motion capture ?
Why has Adobe screwed up the whole export thing and made it not only 100 times more complicated, but, also able to do 100 times LESS than it always used to in previous versions ?
BUT, my immediate question is why are my 720x480i exports to MPEG2-DVD m2v repeatedly failing - unknown error ?
- Source File: C:\DOCUME~1\steve\LOCALS~1\Temp\fleming8mmfilms-sd-3_2.prproj
- Output File: C:\Sequence 01.m2v
- Preset Used: Custom
- Video: NTSC, 720x480, 29.97 drop frame [fps], Lower, Quality 5.0
- Audio: No Summary Available
- Bitrate: VBR, 1 Pass, Min 2.01, Target 4.13, Max 7.00 [Mbps]
- Encoding Time: 00:00:08
18/09/2009 9:35:55 PM : Encoding Failed
Error compiling movie.
Unknown error.

I didn't sin, but you did by assuming things that are not true.
1/ The project file is on the same drive as the export, BUT, the source files are on a different capture drive than the export to C.
2/ I've been using the Matrox RTX100 with previous versions of Premiere for 7 years, and the two have worked very well together all that time, and still are working very well, and, will continue to I've no doubt. - Just because you couldn't get it to work, does not mean they don't.
3/ The export I refer to did not have any connection to the Matrox box. All Premiere and Encore.
4/ I didn't mention that I had done a lot of successful export tests of various definition formats, to other formats, and including a 1 hour Full HD export, no problems.
So, - there - nyah !

SG 2014 w/Matrox MX02 Mini - audio glitch

With previous version, I could not get SG to display on my external monitor via Matrox - at all. It was not an option. Now with 2014 and the latest Matrox driver, I can output through the Matrox, but the audio is choppy. As if it has latency issues. I've tried changing the settings under "display" and "audio" but to no avail. Anyone else using this combination? If so, does it work for you? I have no issues with the same setup, same computer and PP, AE, or Avid MC.

Thanks for the reply penguin!
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Anyone have good/bad experience with MX02 Mini?

I'm very interested in how it's working for 1080 24p in FCP & Motion.
Is the blue-only calibration and 10 bit worth paying the extra $$ over an Intensity Pro?
Also curious about it with AE on Win7 - as with the card, apparently the same device can work on multiple platforms easily.

I've got one running out of the SATA slot on my macbook, and it's been great - largely because there are so few ways to monitor off of such a setup. I can't speak to Windows, but I use it with FCP and After Effects, working 1080p out to a Toshiba HD set, and it really does help me - the color is good, but the true motion playback has really been a bonus. To my eye it's hard to beat for the price.

? Matrox MX02

The MX02 , when importing live video (NTSC Video Signal) that format does it apear in Adobe Premiere
IE Do you have to render it before you can edit it.. When imported, Is the render bar RED or GREEN ?
If you have one, do you like it.? What would buy today ?
On the MAX option have you tried to render a file from RAW format to H.264 in HANDBREAK
and if so is the quality the same ?
Thanks Mike c.

You can capture the video as Matrox's AVI(Mpeg 2) or M2T I believe the other one is depending on whether it's HD or SD. I just always use the AVI since that handles both HD and SD.
If you bring the material into a Matrox sequence then it should not have any bar over the top and no you dont need to render it to edit it.
The current Matrox tools has a bug with the media encoder presets when you select an H264 preset. It lags out for a while and looks like the system is non responsive. Then it will allow you to change presets. Also the audio driver still has a bug in AE. If you want the Max and you can deal with a few bugs then the MXO2 is fine. We will have to see if the update fixes atleast the Media Encoder preset issue when it releases. The Max is great if going to Blue Ray. However the file based options have been limited on the Matrox Max presets. Although I was told you can change the resolution options manually.
The Blackmagic hardware runs fine with Adobe however it does not have any Mpeg 2 options for capture or H264 accleration on export. You can capture M-Jpeg or DVCPro HD though. The export options are your standard Adobe and those codecs besides uncompressed.
Eric
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Sound plays through Matrox MX02 instead of Komplete Audio 6 USB Device =(

In Adobe Premire Pro CC I can't use my NI Komplete Audio 6 usb device for playback. Instead sound always comes out of my Matrox MX02 when I'm scrubbing or playing.
Under Preferences -> Audio Hardware -> Default Device I have selected Komplete Audio 6. When I hit ASIO settings it brings up the expected Komplete Audio 6 Control Panel.
Under Preferences -> Playback -> Audio Device I see options for Adobe DV, Adobe Desktop Audio, and Matrox Player but no Komplete Audio 6.
My system is a custom built Windows7 PC. Any advice on getting sound out of my Komplete Audio 6 instead of the Matrox MX02 would be much appreciated!

the komplete audio 6 seems more problematic than expected.
Preferences -> Audio Hardware -> Default Device -> Premiere Pro WDM Sound causes stuttery playback. I've tried enabling/disableing "Device 32-bit Playback" under ASIO settings and I've also ensured that the buffer size (256 samples) is the same as in my Komplete Audio 6 Control Panel.
Preferences -> Audio Hardware -> Default Device -> Komplete Audio 6 audio playback is fine but if I alt-tab away from PPCS6 the application will freeze as I describe in this thread: http://forums.adobe.com/message/5412540#5412540 ...
I'm running the latest driver/control pannel from Native Instruments (3.1.0) and the latest firmware has been flashed to the Komplete Audio 6 (45).

Will matrox mx02 be recognized by adobe connect

Will matrox mx02 be recognized by Adobe Connect. I presently use a Canopus ADVC110 but would like to go up to a hi-def camera due to client pressure. TX

For a video input to work the OS of your computer must recognize it as a 'web cam'. You may need to use the DVdriver (free to try, $20 to buy) software, if on a Windows PC.
Keep in mind that the Video pod of Connect does not support HD video. So the video quality you see in the room will likely not improve by using the new device. The video in the Video pod can be set to 240P or 480P.

Export from CS4 to Matrox MX02 LE to Betacam deck

Hi,
I'm attempting to export a sequence to tape. I think I have all my inputs and outputs set up right but I can't seem to record my sequence onto tape. I have no problem capturing footage from tape but going the other way won't seem to work. I have a Matrox MX02 LE connected to a Sony Betacam deck. Not even sure where to start as far as diagnosing this problem. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Kevin

Well, the first thing is to confirm that you're getting a signal out of the s-video port on the MXO. Plug it directly into a monitor to confirm a signal. If that's not working, it's probably a Matrox MXO panel option or something similar (i vaguely remember in the past that you had to choose between s-video or component out, although that might be not required anymore). If you are getting a signal out, then it's likely a deck setting somewhere.
One thing that trips people up with betacams is that there's an EE mode that allows passthrough so that, if you're monitoring the output of the deck, it'll pass through the input. If that's off (ie PB mode), you'll only see black when you put the deck in record mode.

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