Random Shutdown in 2010 for a 2006 Macbook

Hello-
I have a 2006 Macbook 1.83 GHz processor and I never had the whole random shutdown problem previously... it burned through batteries like nothing and I was about to install my third hard drive, but no random shutdown problems. Well, now I have it...
Anyway, it is out of warranty, obviously.
1) Will Apple still replace the heatsink, since it was defective even though I am out of warranty?
2) If not, does anyone know if by replacing the heatsink that should fix the problem?
Thanks

Sure Apple will replace the heat sync. At a price. I may be something else though. It might be full if dust after all these years. You could try putting a vacuum cleaner over the in vent and give it a good sucking. Worked for a friend of mine...

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I'll keep my fingers crossed, but at least in my case and perhaps others, the problem may simply have to do with the thermal contact with the heat sink going bad and the processor simply shuts down due to overheating.
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Followup:
They told me something interesting at my Mac Retailer. They have had two other machines brought in doing the same thing. They tried new logic boards with no success, they tried new thermal assemblies with no luck, new ram - nothing seemed to solve the problem.
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Other World Computing:
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We're a little handicapped here by not knowing your location. The links I posted are for US-baaed vendors. The first one ships internationally; the second only to certain countries.
Please consider editing your profile to include your approximate geographic location. That will make it easier for the community to help you.

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I know the Macbooks suffer from random shutdowns, but I thought this issue was fixed in the recent models. Apparently, it's still a problem since my brand new macbook pro core 2 duo exhibits random shutdowns when it gets too hot. Yes, I have all my stuff up to date. No, the new firmware does not apply to the Core 2 Duo MBPs.
My question is, is this still a known problem? I haven't really hard of Macbook Pros suffering from this, is this also common with Macbook Pros?
My Macbook does not get extremely hot to the touch, contrary to some of the "Hot" threads on this board. But, I guess it's enough to short the circuit that causes immediate shutdowns. It's easy enough to avoid, but I'd like to push my Macbook to it's fullest without worry of shutdown.

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Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: hi mem tramps at 0xffe00000
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: PAE enabled
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: 64 bit mode enabled
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 10000 us
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Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: migtable_maxdispl = 71
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Enabling XMM register save/restore and SSE/SSE2 opcodes
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: ACPI CA 20060421
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement: ready
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorApicId=0 LocalApicId=0 Enabled
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorApicId=1 LocalApicId=1 Enabled
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
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Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: IOAPIC: Version 0x20 Vectors 64:87
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: ACPI: System State [S0 S3 S4 S5] (S3)
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Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: BSM auditing present
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: disabled
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Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOProviderClass</key><string ID="1">IOResources</string><key>IOResourceMatch</key><string ID="2">boot-uuid-media</string></dict>
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: AppleYukon: 00000000,e00002bc PwrSavingsEED - failed to get EDGP
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: USB caused wake event (EHCI)
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) TI ID 8025 built-in now active, GUID 0017f2fffe814a26; max speed s800.
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: CSRHIDTransitionDriver::probe:
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: CSRHIDTransitionDriver::start before command
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Extension "com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard" has no kernel dependency.
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Extension "com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver" has no kernel dependency.
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Got boot device = IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/SATA@1F,2/AppleAHCI/PRT2 @2/IOAHCIDevice@0/AppleAHCIDiskDriver/IOAHCIBlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStorageDri ver/Hitachi HTS541612J9SA00 Media/IOGUIDPartitionScheme/Customer@2
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: BSD root: disk0s2, major 14, minor 2
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: CSRHIDTransitionDriver::stop
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: HFS: created HFBT on Macintosh HD
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: IOBluetoothHCIController::start Idle Timer Stopped
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Jettisoning kernel linker.
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Resetting IOCatalogue.
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: display: family specific matching fails
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 0
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: display: family specific matching fails
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: ath_attach: devid 0x24
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: display: family specific matching fails
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: mac 12.10 phy 8.1 radio 12.0
Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost kernel[0]: display: family specific matching fails
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Nov 13 18:16:31 localhost mDNSResponder-108.2 (Aug 20 2006 04: 04:10)[57]: starting
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Nov 13 18:16:33 localhost lookupd[71]: lookupd (version 369.6) starting - Mon Nov 13 18:16:33 2006
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Nov 13 18:16:35 localhost DirectoryService[72]: Launched version 2.1 (v353.5)
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Nov 13 18:16:39 localhost mDNSResponder: Couldn't read user-specified Computer Name; using default ‚ÄúMacintosh-0017F2C23810‚Äù instead
Nov 13 18:16:39 localhost mDNSResponder: Couldn't read user-specified local hostname; using default ‚ÄúMacintosh-0017F2C23810.local‚Äù instead
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Nov 13 18:16:40 localhost kernel[0]: [HCIController][setupHardware] AFH Is Supported
Nov 13 18:16:40 localhost mDNSResponder: Adding browse lanain local.
Nov 13 18:16:43 localhost KernelEventAgent[56]: tid 00000000 received unknown event (256)
Nov 13 18:16:56 localhost /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Admin.framework/Resources/UpdateSettingsTool: UpdateSettings Error: makequeues -u returned 512
Nov 13 18:16:57 localhost /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started
Nov 13 18:38:50 localhost /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started
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Nov 13 18:40:38 localhost mDNSResponder: Couldn't read user-specified local hostname; using default ‚ÄúMacintosh-0017F2C23810.local‚Äù instead
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After all this, I realized the firewire drive was only running 10.5, so I updated all the software through software update, and it is now running 10.5.2. It seems to be working better as I have not experienced a random shutdown yet, but I'm anticipating it may start back up soon. Today, however I experienced a different problem - the screen froze on me and the only way to get anything to happen was to force a shutdown with them power button. It's restarted and seems to be working fine again for now.
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Thanks for the replies!
Yeah, I think it's the HDD. I was just worried that the RAM was bad and corrupted the HDD or something, but given the symptoms I think you guys are right. Ordered a 7200RPM 320GB HDD off Amazon Prime...will be here tomorrow
I'll post how it goes after I finish installing it. I'm backing up as I type.
I wonder if I can fix the ir port and the sleep indicator light when I install the hard-drive. The sleep indicator light never turns off. It stays on as long as my computer is on, only turns off when I shut it down.

Macbook won't detect external display anymore - Random shutdown injury??

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my Macbook has the dreaded random shutdown thing happening, often it can't even get through the startup sequence. If I reset the PMU and PRAM and check the disk every week I can keep it running. Applecare are making not particularly helpful suggestions like "run it in safe mode" - hello people, random means it can take days to happen again... I use this computer for work so I need it at full capacity every day!!!
Anyway, enough angry ranting. The casualty of today's RS and subsequent PRAM PMU resetting is my external display (Viewsonic LCD). The macbook is no longer sending signals to it (display says "no signal"). When I ask the macbook to "detect displays" nothing happens. I have restarted the macbook several times and unplugged and replugged the display connection it doesn't help. Yes, I have the AC power cable plugged in on the Macbook (I know it doesn't like talking to the screen if I don't).
The display and macbook have always worked fine together in the past...
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to test for causes or fix this display related problem?
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You don't mention ever having brought the problem to Apple's attention, or what resulted from your request for Apple's help with it. This isn't a universal or widespread problem. It may be a hardware fault in your own equipment that needs to be resolved with a repair, or it may be a software problem (corrupt file, incompatible software conflict, update needed, etc., etc.). You seem to think Apple should have fixed it for you without your lifting a finger, and you're eager to complain about Apple's lack of support. But you've offered nothing to indicate that Apple even knows you need support. You do have to ask for it. Have you done so?
We have no idea what steps you've taken to try to narrow down the possibilities, e.g., making sure the monitor is turned on; trying a different video cable as iVmichael has suggested; testing the monitor with the same cable on a different computer; testing a different monitor with the same cable and then with a diferent cable on your computer; substituting a different cable adapter, if you are using one; applying all applicable system software updates and then Repairing Permissions and Repairing Disk; starting in Safe Mode and seeing whether the monitor is recognized and activated then; seeing whether the monitor is detected in System Profiler; and so on. You may have done some of these things, but you haven't told us about them or about the results.

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my 2.0 ghz core2duo white macbook has done the random shutdown thing 2 nights in a row, and its never happened before. no warning, no prior indication, it just instantly shuts down. I haven't heard of this developing on an older macbook. Both times the computer was under light load, on battery power and had maybe 20% charge left.
I did see one thread where on old battery may be an alternative cause, so I downloaded the suggested coconutbattery, which tells me my battery has a capacity of 4036 mAH now, as opposed to 5020 when new. I don't know if this is significant but it doesn't seem that 80% of the original battery capacity is too bad.
Does anyone have experience of this happening, or any helpful info for me?? This is a pain as I was hoping to use my macbook for some live music soon... not too confident of that now.
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I'm not sure resetting the SMC is good advice, according this article:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1894
It says only to do it very very specific issues, and random shutdown is not one of them. The article specifically warns against doing it as a troubleshooting measure...

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Have had my MBP for over 18 months now, and any glitches have been software so far.
Two nights ago, I was working on my MBP and suddenly went into an unwakeable sleep. After resetting, I could start up intermittently up to 5 minutes, but it seems to have gotten worse, to where I'm at a point where I can only manage a few seconds of startup before it blacks out again, either off or again, into an unwakeable darkness.
It's the same with just battery, battery & AC, or just AC. It wont stay on long enough for me to start from CD, neither will it stay on to let me Firewire my info/account to another Mac.
At times when I cannot start at all, I can hear a small 'electrical snap' (best description I can give) when pressing the power button, whichever combination of power source I use. I guess this is normal, but I wouldn't notice it usually.
For anyone who've had their MacBook Pro with "Random Shutdown" fixed by Apple out of warranty, could you give an example of cost?
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i dread to think how much it would cost, but i was having random shutdown problems as of last week. completely out of the blue
but, the latest Firmware update seems to have solved it! not before i went and bought another battery of course
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