REVERESE SUBCONTRACTING WITH EXCISE DUTY

Job Work done by Client with excise duty
Business Process,
                             Raw material got from the Customer & it is processed by Client finished goods are made the same will be delivered to the Customer with excise duty.
Details:
1     Sales order will be created with the details of raw materials that customer agreed to give & finished product that customer need after getting the P.O from the customer.
2     Customer will send the material with excise invoice (paid by customer).
3     Client receives the material post the customer excise invoice with part-1 & part-2 entry in the RG23A register.i.e Cenvat credit taken by Client for the customer material.
4     The received Raw material processed by Client converted to finished product with RG1 entry.
5     Finished send to the customer with excise duty paid by Client
6     As excise duty liability is with Client every month excise duty difference between credit taken & paid is settled with customer.
E.g. For August month
          Cenvat credit taken for raw materials Rs-10000
          Excise duty paid by the Client Rs-50000
          Difference to be paid by the customer to Client is Rs-40000
Pl guide me how to map this process in cin
Regards
Umapathy.M

Hai,
The pre requisties for this scenario in CIN part is
1. Create the input raw material with UNBW material type.
2. Create the customer as a vendor.
3. Maintain the input material in J1ID with material type raw material & chapter ID.
4. Maintain the excise details for this vendor with excise indicator.
5.Maintain the assessable value for this material in J1ID. This has to be flow for excise calculation.
6.Maintain the excise tax rates for the Chapter id in J1ID.
7.Mainain the 501 Mvt type in IMG - Logistics general - Tax on goods & movements - India - Business transactions - Incoming excise invoices - specify which mvt type involves excise invoices.
8.Maintain the settings for register entries & GL accts in Acct determination in IMG - Logistics general - Tax on goods & movements - India - Acct determination for the excise transaction type EWPO.
The steps involves are
1.Create a sale order with excise tax code conditions for the processed fininshed product.
2.Do the MIGO with other receipt for 501 Mvt type to receive the raw material. Capture the excise invoice in the MIGO itself.
3.Post the excise invoice by J1IEX.
4.Do the process with PP cycle.
5.Send the finished product with SD route.
6.Do the Billing & outgoing excise invoice.
7.The SD Pricing procedure has to be configured as per the requirement.
8.Check the accting entries at the Customer acct.

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Subcontracting with excise duty ??

Hi experts
Can anybody explain me , how subcontracting procees haes been done with excsie duty ?
In short somebody can explain me here only , with any link.
I should know , how the excise invoice has being created and how capture and post the same will be happened ??
While sending the material for job work. the excise duty value 'll be less .
While receving as finished goods from subcontractor excise value will be more , so hopw this will happen in real time .....???????
Thanks
SAP-MM

Hi.
Your scenario comes under u201CSubcontracting Under Full Payment of Dutyu201D .
The basic requirement is that in your pricing you should have manual condition (JEXC) for entering the excise duty of the finished goods which you are getting from the subcontractor.
Rest of the thing is normalu2026
1.First create a sub cont PO as usual. But under conditions you should enter the Excise duty liable on that finished goods
    against the condition JEXC. Later you maintain the BOM.
2. Do the transfer posting of the child components.
3. Based on this transfer posting document create a out going excise invoice at J1IS. Here what ever the excise duties comes
    will be the excise duties of child components.
4. After this physical send the child components along with the excise invoice.
5. Later the subcontractor process those child components and send you the finished goods along with his excise invoice.
    This excise invoice will contains the excise duty applicable on the finished material. Anyway you have maintained this at the
    time of PO creation against JEXC condition. If you found any difference in the excise value what you maintained in PO and
    that form the subcontractor excise invoice, then amend the PO to the correct value.
6. After that first before GR only capture (not Post) the excise invoice with reference to PO.
7. After that DO the GRu2026
8. After that Post the excise invoice.
9. Finally do the payment by MIRO to the subcontracting vendoru2026
Hope this will clarify your doubt.

Excise treatment during subcontracting process with excise duty

Dear all,
Iam aware of the subcontracting process STEPS, but my query is while dealing with Excise in Subcontracting process, will the Excise duties captured in J1IS(create outgoing excise invoice) be RECONCILED with excise duties captured in J1IEX(subcontractor's excise invoice). As per my scenario both the duties are different unlike reconciliation process in the process without excise duty. My questions are
1.Do both excise duties during j1is and j1iex should be same or can it be different (since in j1is we capture Duties on raw material's assesable value where as in j1iex we capture duties semi finished goods given by sub contractor.)
2.Kindly eloborate treatment of excise duties captured in these steps.
Revert if you didnt understand this scenarion.
Regards,
Sravanthi.Y

Hi,
57fc challan will be issued when we send raw materials to subcontractors WITHOUT EXISE DUTY.Hence not relevant in my case. But my case is WITH excise duty.we send subcontractor the excise invoice by using j1is. later he will process these raw materials and will give back the semi finished goods along with excise invoice(which we will capture n post using j1iex). so my question will excise duties differ in j1is(excise invoice TO subcontractor) and in j1iex(excise duty FROM subcontractor)?

Subcontracting process with excise duty??

hi all
Can anybody explain me about the subcontracting scenario with excise duty??
For example , i have cerated subcontracting PO for A material is finished material is exciseable.
To produce A material , i have provided ,B,C,D materials to subcontractor , those materials also exciseable .
this is my scenario , explain me with transaction code (Step by Step).
Explain me about excise duty accounting folw for above scenario.??
Thanks
SAP-MM

Hi,
During J1IS: -
CENVAT Payable BED - Cr
CENVAT Payable ECS - Cr
CENVAT Payable SECess - Cr
Excise Duty Paid - Dr
During J1IEX: -
CENVAT Input BED - Dr
CENVAT Input ECS - Dr
CENVAT Input SECess - Dr
CENVAT Clearing - Cr

Sub-contracting with excise duty..?

Hi all
can anybody explain me the sub-contracting process with excise duty , here we are going create excise invoice(J1IS instead of sub-contract challan) and what abt material document for sending out materials
whether v an use excise invoice as material transfer document to jobber place or what.
Please explain me with example ..
Regards
sap-mm

hi ,
you can try:
1.Do the MB1A with 202 mvt type to get back the material from the Work location Cost center to Storage location.
2.Create the Subcontracting PO without payment of excise duty ie., with subcontracting challan. Here the components provided to the vendor & material at item overview should be the same.
3.Do the MB1B - 541 Mvt type transfer posting.
4.Create the subcontracting challan w r t material doc by J1IF01
5.Do the MIGO for SC PO.
6.Reconcile the SC Challan.
7.If the qty is fully reconciled then you can complete the challan.
8.Do the LIV for SC PO.
9.Do the MB1A with 201 MVT type to issue the material to the Work location.

REVERSE SUBCONTRACTIN WITH EXCISE DUTY

Job Work done by Client with excise duty
Business Process,
                             Raw material got from the Customer & it is processed by Client finished goods are made the same will be delivered to the Customer with excise duty.
Details:
1     Sales order will be created with the details of raw materials that customer agreed to give & finished product that customer need after getting the P.O from the customer.
2     Customer will send the material with excise invoice (paid by customer).
3     Client receives the material post the customer excise invoice with part-1 & part-2 entry in the RG23A register.i.e Cenvat credit taken by Client for the customer material.
4     The received Raw material processed by Client converted to finished product with RG1 entry.
5     Finished send to the customer with excise duty paid by Client
6     As excise duty liability is with Client every month excise duty difference between credit taken & paid is settled with customer.
E.g. For August month
          Cenvat credit taken for raw materials Rs-10000
          Excise duty paid by the Client Rs-50000
          Difference to be paid by the customer to Client is Rs-40000
How to map this process in CIN
Regards
UMAPATHY.M

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How to do Payment against Proforma invoice with excise duty?

Hi all
I am using SAP B1 9.0
I have a scenario like, I want to make a proforma invoice partially/fully for the customer order(sales order) with excise duty and I will receive payment against this invoice.
I tried to use AR down payment request , thus I can create proforma invoice for partially/fully and I can do incoming payment also, but the problem is I can't use Excise duty(CENVAT) in down payment document. Is there a way or work around for my issue?
Thanks in advance.
Pravin

Hi,
In standard SAP B1, we can't select Excise tax code in Down payment request document and it will not allow also
Find below the workaround solution:
1. When you are raising Down payment request, enter DPM value including Excise Duty. i.e. If the base value is 1000 and Excise duty 120, enter 1120 in DPM value, the percentage will become 112%. In case of partial also calculate partial excise duty and add in base value and enter in DPM value.
2. Based on Down payment request book the incoming payment
3. Adjust Down payment request in final AR Invoice it will get adjusted in total value.
Note: The Excise duties will book at the time of OEI booking (as per legal req). We can't book the excise at the time of Down payment.
Regards,
Kiran

Plant to plant stock trasnfer with excise duty

Hi,
We have one company code and two plant assign to it , now one plant is Ma=fg. plant and other plant is depot plant , now I have purchase material with excise duty in mfg. plant and excise is capture with J1IEX aprt1 and part2 is done   now our requirement is we wan to sal that material thorugh depot plant so for this the entry should be there in RG23D so can you giude or give some link for this so that material from plant A to be trasfer to depot plant , with excise then we can sale that material thorugh trading plant.
regards,
zafar

Hi,
        Steps to Stock transfer from one plant to another plant as below... ..
1. First enable Sales View of material that you want to transfer (MM01) and fill required data i,e.
Plant  Select Plant where Material transferred.
3)     Sales Org. Data1 Menu  Select Division u201851u2019 Cement.
4)     Sales Org. Data2 Menu  Select Gen Item Cat. Grp u2018 NORMu2019
5)     Sales General Plant Data 
A)     Availability check u2018KPu2019
B)     Loading GRP u20180001u2019
C)     Profit Center u2018Plant Codeu2019
2. Create Condition Records (VK11)
3.Create Sales Order                 (VA01)
4.Create Outbond Delivery     (VL01N)
5.Create Billing Document      (VF01)
6. Excise Invoice                          (J1IIN)
7. Printing of Excise Invoice and Commercial Invoice                           (VF02)
Regards

Sample invoice with excise duty only

Hello Experts,
User is sending free samples to customers. Presently, normal sales invoice is raised and credit note is issued in SAP. We need a separate Sample Invoice with zero value but with Excise
Duty Payment.
How to achieve this requirement? suggestions?
Regards,
Raj

Dear Raj
Check these threads for making sample sales
[Sample sales |Sample sales]
[Sample sales scenario configuretion |Re: Sample sales scenario configuretion]
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

Material cost with Excise Duty and VAT

Dear All,
Please can you suggest how to capture cost of the material with Excise Duty and VAT during GR.
Also kindly let me know the settings required to maintain for caputring the same. We are using TAXINN for tax calculation purpose.
best regards,
Suresh

Hi
Below given the details for TAXINN
Procurement
Set up the following Access Sequences in the the IMG under Financial Accounting ® Financial Accounting Global Settings ® Tax on Sales/Purchases ® Basic Settings ® Check Calculation Procedure ® Access Sequences:
JTAX
JST1
Set up the Condition Types for the following conditions in the IMG under Financial Accounting ® Financial Accounting Global Settings ® Tax on Sales/Purchases ® Basic Settings ® Check Calculation Procedure ® Define Condition Types:
1.     MM Excise Conditions
JMOP     IN: BED setoff %
JMOQ     IN: BED setoff Qty
JAOP     IN: AED setoff %
JAOQ     IN: AED setoff Qty
JSOP     IN: SED setoff %
JSOQ     IN: SED setoff Qty
JMIP     IN: BED inventory %
JMIQ     IN: BED inventory Qt
JAIP     IN AED inventory %
JAIQ     IN AED inventory Qty
JSIP     IN SED inventory %
JSIQ     IN SED inventory Qty
JMX1     IN: A/P BED setoff
JAX1     IN: A/P AED setoff
JSX1     IN: A/P SED setoff
JMX2     IN: A/P BED inventor
JAX2     IN: A/P AED inventor
JSX2     IN: A/P SED inventor
JECP     IN:A/P e-cess setoff
JECI     IN: Eces inventory
JEX1     IN: A/P ecs setoffT
JEX3     IN: A/P ecs invT
1.     LST/CST/VAT Conditions
JIPS     IN Sales tax setoff
JIPC     IN Central sales tax invoice
JIPL     IN Local sales tax invoice
JIP5     A/P RM Deductible
1.     Service Tax Conditions
JSRT     A/P Service Tax
JEC3     A/P ECS for ST
Define the Tax Procedure according to the settings in the figures below.
You can do this in the IMG under Financial Accounting ® Financial Accounting Global Settings ® Tax on Sales/Purchases ® Basic Settings ® Check Calculation Procedure ® Define Procedures.
Set up the following Account Key in the IMG under Financial Accounting ® Financial Accounting Global Settings ® Tax on Sales/Purchases ® Basic Settings ® Check and Change Settings for Tax Processing.
1.     VS6     Input Tax
Assign Tax Procedure to the country.
You can do this in the IMG under Financial Accounting ® Financial Accounting Global Settings ® Tax on Sales/Purchases ® Basic Settings ® Assign Country to Calculation Procedure.

Subcontracting with excise

Hello experts ,
Could u pls enlist the step by step procedure subcontracting scenario in which excisable material is sent out
Regards

Dear,
Please find the complete flow process for SUB CONTRACTING for your kind perusal.
"Award, if helpful"
Regards,
Prashanth Pai
3 Procurement of Subcontracting Materials u2013 Business Process Procedure
3.1 Procurement of Subcontracting Materials
3.1.1 Purpose
In Indian subcontracting process when you issue materials to a subcontractor, you need to keep track of what materials you have issued and when they have to be returned by subcontractor. The reason for this close monitoring has to do with Indian tax law. Under excise law 57AC, when you send materials to a subcontractor for processing, you are not required to pay any excise duty, even though the materials have left your premises. However, if the materials have not been returned to you within 180 days specified by the law, you will have to reverse any excise credit that you posted when you have purchased the materials. When you send material out of your factory premises you need to send with 57F4 Challan. In this process you are going to do the same.
3.1.2 Prerequisites
The following scenario specific master data must be created for operation of this building block and subsequent dependent building blocks.
u2022 Material Master record
u2022 Vendor Master record
u2022 Purchasing Info Record (Optional)
Ensure that Sub-Contracting as Info Category.
u2022 CIN Master Data (Refer User Manual u2013 Procurement of Stock Materials (Domestic))
o Chapter IDs
o Material ID and chapter ID combination (Ensure Sub-Contract check box is selected for the Materials that provided to vendor)
o CENVAT Determination
o Vendor Excise Details
o Excise Indicator for Plants
o Excise Indicator for Plant and Vendor
o Excise Tax Rates
3.2 Creation of Subcontracting Purchase Order
3.2.1 Use
A purchase order is a legal document used to record an individual purchase with the vendor. It also provides the vendor with a reference document to link to goods receipt and invoice verification processes. The purchase order is a commitment to a vendor for a given subcontracting activity, in a specified quantity at a predetermined price and delivery date.
3.2.2 Prerequisites
Components stock should be available for providing to subcontracting vendor.
3.2.3 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Purchasing  Purchase Order  CreateVendor/Supplying Plant Known
Transaction code ME21N
3.3 Message Output
3.3.1 Use
A Purchase Order needs to be printed for transmitting to vendor.
3.3.2 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Purchasing  Purchase Order  Messages  Print/Transmit
Transaction code ME9F
3.4 Transfer of Components to Subcontractor
3.4.1 Use
The Nature of subcontracting purchase order is that company will provide components to subcontractor. This process describes how to transfer post materials to subcontractor.
3.4.2 Prerequisites
Sufficient stocks of components should be available for making transfer posting.
3.4.3 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Inventory Management  Goods Movement  Transfer posting
Transaction code MB1B
3.5 Creation of Subcontracting Challan
3.5.1 Use
It is statutory requirement to send the components to subcontractor with 57F4 Challan.
3.5.2 Prerequisites
u2022 Select the Sub-Contracting Material in Material and Chapter ID Combination of the Excise Master (J1ID) for the sending Material.
u2022 Ensure that the details of the receiving Material maintained in the Excise Master (J1ID).
u2022 CENVAT Determination of the Excise Master (J1ID) Maintained for the both sending and receiving Material.
u2022 Ensure that the Assessable value for the sending material is maintained in the Excise Master (J1ID)
3.5.3 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP User menu
CIN Menu Indirect Taxes  Procurement  Subcontracting  Subcontracting Challans  Create
Transaction code J1IF01
Printing of Subcontracting Challan
3.6.1 Use
It is statutory requirement to send the components to subcontractor with 57F4 Challan.
3.6.2 Procedure
Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP User menu
CIN Menu Indirect Taxes  Procurement  Subcontracting  Subcontracting Challans  Change
Transaction code J1IF11
3.7 Goods Receipt for Purchase Order
3.7.1 Use
Normally Goods are received from the Vendor as a result of a Purchase Order at the receiving plant
3.7.2 Prerequisites
Purchase Order
3.7.3 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Inventory Management  Goods Movement  Goods Receipt  For Purchase Order  PO Number Known
Transaction code MIGO
3.8 Reconciling Subcontracting Challan
3.8.1 Use
After making Goods Receipt the GR has to be reconciled with the challan sent to subcontractor.
3.8.2 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP User menu
CIN Menu Indirect Taxes  Procurement  Subcontracting  Subcontracting Challans  Reconcile Quantity
Transaction code J1IFQ
3.9 Completing/Reversal/Re-credit Subcontracting Challan
3.9.1 Use
This transaction is basically used to complete the challan if you have reconciled as stated above step. There may be cases subcontractor may not able to supply within stipulated 180 days limit then in this case also same transaction is used for reversal of challan or re-crediting the amount.
3.9.2 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP User menu
CIN Menu Indirect Taxes  Procurement  Subcontracting  Subcontracting Challans  Complete/Reverse/Recredit
Transaction code J1IF13
3.10 Logistics Invoice Verification for Subcontracting Material
3.10.1 Use
In this process of Logistics Invoice Verification all the Incoming Invoices are verified in terms of their content, prices and arithmetic. When the invoice is posted, the invoice data is saved in the system. The system updates the data saved in the invoice documents in Materials Management and Financial Accounting.
3.10.2 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Logistics invoice Verification  Document Entry  Enter Invoice
Transaction code MIRO

Problem with Excise Duty tax calcualtion in Invoice

Hi experts,
Need your rexpert advise on the below issue.
We have MM invoice where by the tax is not calucalted correctly.
The Material is subject to excise duty, on the GR the excise invoice is getting generated with Cenvat clering account with correct amount towards excise duty
i.e. GR is done for amount - 52951.33 and corresponding Tax code is KE(10% excise duty, 3% Ecess and 2% CST) which comes correctly as 6214.73 approximately which is correct in case of GR
But however when the Invoice is posted for corresponding GR, the amount of tax calculated is only 1307.50, which should have been 6214.73 as the amount on the GR.
We really are not able to find out why their is diffrences in the calculation of excise duty.
Request your expert advise on this regard.
Thanks.
Shahid.

System will fetch the duties from J_1IGRXREF table into MIRO transaction. So firstly check whether duties are correctly updated for the respective Excise invoice in the said table.
Secondly ensure you have selected the correct tax code in MIRO same as PO tax code. There may be a chance that user had changed the tax code after posting the GRN in the Purchase order.
Finally check whether the condition records are valid for the selected tax code in FV13 transaction code and are not set to deleted.

How to find material recieved with excise duty or without excise duty

HI
how to find material recieved with or without excise duty , and which table these data store . Because we need to develope one new report.
Regards
Ganesh

HI,
Check the report J1I5 , For the Material received with the Excise Details,
Table "J_1IEXCHDR" will store the Excise invoice header data.
Regards
Mascot.

Non stock items procurement with excise duty

Dear Experts,
We are using TAXINJ procedure , For non stock (without material master) items procurement , we are manataing tax codes with BED 10 % ECESS 2% and SECESS 1% and in J1ID excise rate mantaning with CHAPTER ID , but in the case of non stock items there is no material master so there is no chapter id for that , even i have mantained without material id and chapter id combination also , but while creating PO with this taxcode excise duty are not caluclating , please tell me what we need to do caluclate excise duty for non stock items.

Hi chandu, you maintain a A blank material in J1ID ( ONLY SPACE under material coulmn) and other details as usual.
You issue will be resolved.
for eg
s.no___Material__________________plant_____Chap id ____mat typ
1___ blank( dont enter anything) ___1000_______ abc_____ Raw material
2.____ 100-100___________________1000______ xyz_____Raw material
Cheers
Kris
Edited by: KRISHNA AKULA on Jan 28, 2011 7:08 AM
Edited by: KRISHNA AKULA on Jan 28, 2011 7:11 AM

Return to vendor with excise duty..?

Hi all
can anybody explain me how to do return delivery to vendor with excise return, after invoice verification.
Pls explain me step by step with example (excise duty example ).
firt ve have captured and posted excise duty frm vendor ,
1. then i have created return PO with same tax code with excise duties 1421% + 4% vat. tax valus r flowing properly in return PO (1421%+4%vat).
2.while doing MIGO (wht is mvt type )and wht to do in excise tab.
3...wht is process
Thanks
sap-mm

Dear,
After done Return delivery
J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD, Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt, Doc Year, Series Group, Excise Group and Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
Regards,
Mahesh Wagh

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