Third-party item in stock transfer order

We have the following situation:
The company A receives a sales order from a external customer. The
company A buys the goods to the company B (the company B is an
intercompany vendor).The company B has to send the goods to the
external customer directly. Company A invoices to the external customer
and company B invoices to company A.
It's a triangular deal, but when we try to create a purchase order with
a third-party item for an intercompany vendor, the system show the
following message: "Third-party not defined in the case of vendor with
plant assignment.
Are there other solutions ?

A third party sales order creates a purchase requisition to be procured from an external vendor.
Procurement from an internal vendor (has plant assignment) can only be done with item category U.
The field item category in the purchase requistion is S in case of 3rd party business.
The field item category in the purchase requistion is U in case of stock transfer business.
It is techically not possible that this field has both S and U at the same time.
Further a U requisition does not make sense for 3rd party, as the nature of the stock transfer is to move goods between 2 locations, but in 3rd party business you ask a vendor to send goods to a customer directly. this means you never receive this goods in the other plant, hence you would never release the stock from transit stock.
An alternative could be to create an extra vendor master for you plant B, that is not linked to a plant, and should only be used for this 3rd party business. Discuss this with your finance guys, usually they dont want this.
Alternative you create a standard order at plant A and create a STO to get the material virtually from plant B to plant A. this adds work, and does not really reflect the real chain. Often a source for errors.
Alternative you directly create the order as standard order in plant B. Often the sales guys dont want it this way. they still thinking in silos.With SAP there is certainly some change and difference to the old fashioned thinking

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I want to apply a check with error message if the line itmes in a stock transfer order is not belonging to same supplying plant.
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Hi,
this is one of the problems caused by an organisation structure that is not quite matching the "real world".
In SAP each Plant should have a unique address and the storage locations are thought of as areas within that address.
If you have two sites that have different addresses, they should <u>ideally</u> be separate plants. You can then use all of the available functionality within SAP that you would expect.
If you want to set up a route that goes from one address to another than this is possible, but in your case you are actually saying that you want a route for s delivery from and too the same address, not really a real world scenario.
So if you really want to do this then each site should be a plant. I expect that it is too late to change your design but it is important for others reading this to understand the problems that are caused when Storage locations are used instead of Plants for physically separate addresses.
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-- A semifinished good SF1 will come to my company plant... (Stock Transfer)
-- This SF1 will get converted to SF2 (another semifinished good) inside my company. As a by-product Scrap S1 will be generated.
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-- This FG will go to customer directly from the vendor.
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As per your thread,
1- SF1 transferred from Plant (P1)- to Plant (P2) - Cab ne mapped through STO Process / Transfer Posting from Plant-Plant(Mov type 301)
2- for this SF1, internal processing will be done in Plant-P2 to convert SF1 into SF2 in resuitl Scrap S1 will generate- Internal Production process (SF1 BOM - SF2 & S1 as child items)
3- Issuing SF2 to Vendor for further processing to convert into FG - Subcontracting Process ( SF2 - Input Material / FG - Output material)
4- Issuing FG directly from Vendor to Customer, based on Customer Order - Third party Order Processing.
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In third party you will not be able to create automatic PO
The schedule line category CS settings in VOV6 order type NB, MM item category 5 and account assignment category settings as X and in VOV7 for TAS create automatic PO ticked will ensure PR creation only and not PO
As suggested by the other friend you need to run t code ME59N or ME59 for automatic PO creation but certain condition to be met
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Hi Navneetha,
Thanks for d reply.
I hv checked d mentioned tables and Itm Categories nothing is +ve there. All 3 itms hv TAS itm category. Also I agree with ur MIRO statement.
I found one thing which might b d cause plz check.
As we knw dat we cant change the schedule ln date and quantity once the Pur. Requisition created. and we cant make changes in sales order itm line if the PO is created for that Pur. Requisition. Bcoz afteward the PO wont be updating the Pur Requsition and sales order automatically.
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u2022     The item category group (BANS) in the sales:sales org.data screen of the material master controls whether or not the material will always be a third party material. In this case, the item category in the sales order will be defaulted to u201CTAS.u201D   If the material is also procured internally, then the item category group can be set to u201CNORM,u201D and the material can still be used for third-party processing if desired.
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sales order is u201CTASu201D for third-party. The purchase requisitions created can
be viewed and even edited from the schedule line screen (Edit-
Procurement Details).
u2022     Changes in quantities, dates and account assignments in the purchase order result in the automatic changing of the sales order.
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u2022     The account assignment in the purchase requisition can be either the sales order (C), or aux. account assignments (X).
u2022     Once created, the third-party purchase requisition follows normal
purchasing procedures.
u2022     Customer delivery information is copied onto the purchase requisition from the sales procurement data.
u2022     If you create delivery schedules or change quantities during the purchasing process, these automatically get copied back to the schedule lines on the
sales order.
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