1080P sequence with 720i footage (interfield jitter correction needed)

OK, heres something that has me stumped. This Motocross piece Im working on has a lot of 1080p footage as well as some archival 720i b roll. I created a 1080P sequence. In some of the 720i shots Im seeing signs of bad interlacing. Since the sequence is set to Progressive I can understand why this could happen . I dont see any video tools that I can apply to the clip to rectify the problem. Its not jitter per say, its more like incorrect filed order. Any takers out there?

1. Did you interpret the 720i footage correctly?
Maybe not. I just imported the files from the provided hard drive.
2. What's the source of the 720i stuff? With AVC and DVCPro cameras, only progressive 720 formats are available (720p24, 720p30, 720p60, etc.).
Quicktime inspector tells me is DV / DVCPRO NTSC 720 x 480 29.97

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Thank You.

Your DV footage uses a different (non-square) pixel aspect ratio. It needs to be "redistorted" to match a square pixel format.
Put the DV material in the timeline.
double clic it
go to the motion tab
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if the material is 4:3, the distort should be 12.5
If the material is 16:9, the distort should be -18.54
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x

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Al,
very much appreciate your time on this. Hopefully just one more question. I am trying to figure out whether or not converting the tremendous amount of footage I have from this project shot in 24p will be worth it. In my mind, it is only worth it, if by not doing it, I will end up with a finished product that does not have as good of a picture quality. At this point, I dont care at all about having the 'film look' 24p is supposed to give you, I just dont the picture quality degraded somehow because FCE doesnt support 24p, and I am using a 29.97fps sequence to edit it.
So with all of that said, my question is this:
1. When you said before that when a clip hits a sequence it conforms to the properties of the sequence, what do you think is happening to the clip? For instance, if the clip in the Browser as you shot it has got 1440 pixels for every 1080 lines and you place it on a 720x480 sequence, is some of that information literally disappearing? That seems hard to believe. I would think that kind of conversion would require a program to execute it and some processing time, but the drag and drop on a sequence is instantaneous. And my HD footage on the SD sequence still seems to look better to me than my SD stuff, although that could just be perception. Same issue with the frame rate. When I drag and drop a 24fps clip onto a sequence set for 29.97 fps, how can the clip now have more frames per second? That would be additonal information that was never captured in the first place. How is that possible? I do believe that the clips are changed in some way that affects the output, but it doesnt seem possible that 'conforming' to the properties of the sequence is the same thing as if you shot the original footage with those sequence settings. Something else must be meant by that right?
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Hi Drking2020,
I see you have seen this forum post: Re: 4k Playback in 1080p Sequence - Zoom out in 1/2 resolution
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I started with 4k red footage in a 512 red sequence
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Message was edited by: Jerry Hofmann

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