1920x1080p to SD-DVD (720x480)

Hey everyone,
I have some 1080p videos I'd like to author to a regular DVD using Encore.
I know (or am pretty sure) I have to re-encode them beforehand and I'm running into some perplexing stumbling blocks.
Using Adobe Media Encoder, I've tried just about every iteration of downscaling the videos to 720x480 with varying results. Besides looking terrible (which was kind of expected), I'm having A/R problems.
Sometimes the options I choose squish the content into 4:3. When I do choose a preset or customize one that displays it widescreen, there are always black bars on the side that vary in width. Maybe 20px a side one time, 50px another.
Does anyone have any experience doing these kinds of conversions?
Basically what I want to do is take a bunch of 1080p videos and author them to a regular DVD while preserving the aspect ratio of the original videos.
I've tried MPEG2, MPEG2-DVD (Widescreen), etc., etc. to no avail.
Here's an example of a video I re-encoded using MPEG2-DVD, 720x480, Widescreen 16:9.
Thanks!

There will be some unavoidable softening, but "awfully soft" implies an unacceptable degree of softness, and may indicate other issues at play. Make sure your 1080p30 footage is being interpreted correctly. Double-check your sequence settings to make sure they perfectly match your source footage. Make sure you don't select the option in the render settings to Use Render Files. Re-verify your export settings.
I'm not encoding from Premiere, I'm encoding from the MP4 file I created from Premiere from the source MTS and audio. Would that make a difference? The MP4 is encoded at the max bitrate of the MTS at 16mbps so I wouldn't think so. I mean I expected some quality degradation but not as bad as I think it looks.
Yes. Adobe adjusted the PAR values in CS4 to match the BBC's values.
PAR and BBC? (sorry)
So when I author a DVD with these downscaled files, I can expect those slim black bars on the side instead of the widescreen completely filling the screen?
No. AAMOF, Encore prefers elementary audio and video streams.
Which is just a matter of adding the a/v streams to a timeline and snapping them to the beginning I hope...

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Since the destination is DVD, don't waste the time or resources to encode at HDV frame sizes. It will just have to be encoded again so that it will fit the standard def DVD frame size. Re-transcoding will significantly reduce final quality.
NTSC DVD:
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I know you said the render bar won't show, but, here there is a bar only with no progress at all. Is this what you meant? Also, why is the CPU usage at 2% and RAM Usage at 19% when during encoding both figures hit the 50% - 60% mark?
So anyway, I closed the window and try again and this time it returned me an error, which basically crashes premiere:
Once again, I'm using premiere pro CC. Has this workflow been tried with CC?
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I did exactly what it suggested, dropped the suggested .prm into the plugins folder. The first time I went to program > adobe > premiere cc > plug ins > common and then dropped the file there and opened premiere cc and went to export but under no option I get a 'link to avisynth' as filetype option. So then I go to program > adobe > common > plug ins > 7.0 > media core and I dump the .prm file there. I restart premiere and then go to export, same thing.
why are things so unnecessarily complicated and the ones which are not return error? This is so frustrating, I'm going crazy here. Please help, you guys.

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To the above as a mini test run to prove to yourself that it works for you.
You wrote
1. Editing mode is 1080i, 29.97, 1920x1080, square pixels1.0.
2. Source media is dvd, 720x480, as per ration .9091.
3. When viewed on time line no black border.
4. I have published as mpeg, avchd and avi;ALL came out with black border not on titles only video.
thanks for feedback.
"1" tell us that your project is set up as a 1920 x 1080i29.97 16:9 project even those your source is 4:3 as is
indicated by your line "2" information.
Please review and consider.
Thank you.
ATR

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I have outputed my file using Adobe Media Encoder.
As what? The "MPEG-2 DVD" format is what should be used to create a DVD-compliant file ready for Encore that will not need to transcode.
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When editing a multi-camera shoot for insertion into a larger project, my method in PP1 DV days was to import the clips as AVIs, cut it together as a standalone sequence, and then export a completed AVI which I simply dropped into the final project.
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> I imported the footage as 1440X1080 mpegs by default, cut it, and then used AME to export it as a 1440X1080 mpg2
Why?
> The footage was captured 'Lower Field First',
HDV is upper field first, so how did you capture from what?
> I'll be authoring the final product to DVD to start with
So export with AME to MPEG2-DVD 720x480 LFF.

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It seems that a friend of mine with Edius 5 can accomplish this in a fraction of this time. And, even burn it to Blu-Ray while I am still exporting. and that is on a system that is half of the specs I listed above. I am new to CS4 but not new to video editing. Am I missing something or is Adobe Media Encoder Slow?
I am all ears and I value feedback. I hope to be able to share some in my future here on this forum.
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Doing a high quality render to MPEG2 for DVD with CBR 8Mb/sec and Dolby Digital Audio at 192Kb/sec and CBR multiplexed is now taking 2 hours for a 1 hour timeline.
Not having used Encore before, will Encore accept this single MPEG2 video file with embeded Dolby Digital audio?
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I can't exactly compare your material, but on my system with a HDV 1080i timeline of 1:30 hours encoding to MPEG2DVD takes around 33 minutes.
Here are the settings used:
Mind you I had the quality slider at 4 but the rest comparable to your settings, CBR 8 Mbps, 1-pass and 224 Kbps 5.1 audio.
So your encoding times appear to be long in comparison to mine. I got around 3 x RT. This is on a i7 920 running @ 3.6 GHz. The major difference between our systems is the raid controller and raid format used. I have an Areca ARC-1680iX-12 with 2 GB cache and use a 12 disk raid30. My average read speeds with HDTach hover around 800 MB/s instead of your average of around 400. But that does not explain why you get only 0.5 x RT while I get around 3 x RT. Maybe using quality at 4 instead of 5 explains the difference. If so, try it and look if you can discern any visual degradation.

Other video size than 720/576 ?

hello
I made a search in the forum but didn't find any answer.
Is there any way to have images at other format than the usual 720/576 ?
I have made several movie in wide screen format and would like to burn them on DVD.
But when I import, I have an error message : size of this file must be 720/576.
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"PAR" is pixel aspect ratio. I'm afraid I don't know how that translates into French. On your computer monitor every pixel is square; the width is the same as the height, which means that it is a pixel aspect ratio of 1. Many types of video uses pixels that are
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Square and Non-Square Pixels
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VDRAVES
Please review since I am not sure how you obtained Video 3 tall when you scaled Video 3 with Constrain Proportions in effect.
Before
After
It becomes a zoomed in effect to get rid of the black borders. But, there is no tall and thin involved anywhere.
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ATR

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Install the free Lagarith codec on your system. Export out a Lagarith intermediate with the appropriate specs.
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I've searched on the web & gotten a few answers, but nothing seems to solve the situation.
What I've tried.
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720x480 MPEG2-DVD, Quality 5, Min, Target, Max All Set To 9. Came out looking worse then my previous attempt.
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2) If so, I download the Encoder presets, but where do I place them? (I didn't see any .epr files in the root of /encoder
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As true as your statement is, would it not then render a good quality 720x480 DVD format, even by DVD standards as your parent file was 1920x1080p. When I look at other DVD's shot and edited the same way as mine I still see a big quality difference, theirs being better render than mine.
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