2.0Ghz Core Duo MBP: Is it Leapord Ready? And one more question too.

Well, just as I said in the subject, I've got a year old MBP, and was really curious as to whether it can weather (pun intended?) Leopard. And what about 64-bit applications?
My other question is that I was once told that inorder to get the full functionality of the Core Duo processor, you had to have matching sticks of RAM installed, ie 2x512mb or 2x1GB. Is this true? I'm thinking that it's probably worth spending the $50 to just get another 1GB stick, but I just can't seem to find the answer to this question.
Thanks!

Your MBP will run Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard just fine.
As for 64-bit applications, you will find that most application developers will release them as a single version so it will automatically use the rght binaries for your MBP. There will be the odd application that will be 64-bit only however those will be very specialised and not for general use.
For maximum performance the SODIMMs should be matched however the difference you will actually get will be minimal. Realistically you should have 2GB (2 x 1GB) installed anyway to get the most out of your MBP.

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