23.98 to 29.97 fps --- Capt Mench if you're out there help!!!

Hi again FCP community
We captured at 23.98 fps using 2:3:3:2 pulldown and edited in 24fps sequence....why??? Because without stress, our lives would be boring. No for real, the directors shoot their in 29.97 and 24P, etc...that's why we captured in 23.98fps
I exported the 24fps as QT mov and in Cinema Tools converted it to 23.98fps to be able to print to miniDV tape
My questions is there a way to bump the 23.98 to 29.97 or 30 fps and keep the sound in sync??? HELP!
If you need further explanation, please shoot me an email at [email protected] or [email protected]

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     }//for
     for(MapItems mi: currentMap.getItemList()){
          g.drawImage(mi.getImage(),(int)mi.getX(), (int)mi.getY(), null);
     }//for
     for(Mimics m: currentMap.getList()){
          if(m.getVisas()){
               g.drawImage(m.getImage(), (int)m.getX(), (int)m.getY(), null);
          }//if
     }//for
     g.drawImage(avatar.getImage(), (int)avatar.getX(), (int)avatar.getY(), null);
     if (currentMap.levelname == Map.Levelname.LevelTwo){
          g.drawImage(grass, 0, 623, null);
     g.drawImage(key, cameraX+1000, cameraY+72, null);
     g.drawImage(sekLevel, 800, 580, null);
          //Visar timern om den är aktiv
          if (transformationTimer.isRunning()) {
               g.drawImage(mimicTimerBarBackground, cameraX+509, cameraY+72, null);
               g.drawImage(mimicTimerBar, cameraX+514, cameraY+77, (int)(cameraX+514+(200/20)*transformationTime), cameraY+77+30, 0, 0, (int)(200/20)*transformationTime, 30, null);
          g.setColor(Color.red);
          g.dispose();
     getBufferStrategy().show();
     }//void
I figure I got to put a timer to fix the FPS somewhere in here, but where?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Regard,
Gabriel

Speed should be 'tick' based. The way I do it, with silky smooth results, is to lock the game to a framerate. That part is quite easy, all you do is calculate at what interval you want to update. Say you want 60FPS, it becomes:
interval = 1000 / 60 (interval = 17ms).
So if you want 60FPS, you have to update and draw every 17 milliseconds. That sounds like a short time, but for computers it really is not.
Okay, so you have your game loop. while(true) { update(); render(); }. The body of this loop should execute every 17ms (it won't be that precise, but it will be good enough). It goes a little something like this:
while(running){
long measure1 = currentTimeInMillis();
update();
render();
long measure2 = currentTimeInMillis();
long diff = measure2 - measure1;
Thread.sleep(17-diff); // sleep until next tick
}This will have the game ticking at 58-61 FPS, depending on the timing precision of the OS - you'll find that on Linux OSes the framerate is far more steady than on Windows environments for example, in Java at least. Its just the sleep call that is far from precise.
Now you will want to make movement based on the framerate - the way I do that is to work with float measurements. For movement speed I say 'every tick, move X.X pixels', where I keep the units in increments of 0.5 pixels. This means that moving game entities can go as slow as 0.5 pixels each tick in my games, which is slow enough for most of them. In the end when determining the actual pixel locations, the floats are rounded down to ints.
I hope that makes some sense.

Best Practice for 8mm 18 fps movies

I've just transferred a bunch of old 8mm home movies as image sequences. They were shot at 18 frames per second and transferred frame-for-frame as a series of TIFFs.
My goal is to edit these things in an 18 fps timeline and then export the finished video as an 18 fps quicktime -- then post them on Vimeo. It seems that this will produce the smallest amount of artifacting.
I've imported the clips and set their frame rate in "Interpret Footage". And I've created sequences at 18 fps by dragging a clip to the new sequence icon. My problem now is how to export. All the export options limit you to a menu of framerates -- but the menu doesn't include 18 fps. FLV let's you set a "same as source" framerate, but I'd prefer to create quicktimes. I know that I can do this in After Effects, but it's easier to do the editing work in Premiere.
Anybody have any suggestions how I can output at 18 fps? And will Vimeo (or any other video hosting service) accept that rate? And if this won't work, then what's the best way to get them to 24 fps? Would that be Twixtor?
Many thanks to anybody who can offer any suggestions --
Steve

For what it's worth, I ended up doing all the work in After Effects. It's much easier to edit in Premiere, but all the effects work I had to do was easier in AE and I didn't like worrying about that Intermediate Frame Rate issue.
Other Notes:
Vimeo is happy to show an 18 fps file. They don't say so in the docs, but if you ask their terrific support people, they'll tell you. I ended up creating a countdown timer, uploaded it, played it back and checked it with a stopwatch -- it played perfectly at 18. (I have a Plus account, which might make a difference, but I don't think so.)
AE won't render an MP4 file at 18 fps. If you ask it to render an 18 fps timeline as an MP4, you get a 15 fps MP4. So you have to make an H.264 Quicktime, which can be any framerate. And as far as I can tell mp4 files can work at any frame rate, but AE will only create them at standard rates. If anybody knows a better way to create an 18 fps file that Vimeo will accept, I'd love to know it.
Thanks to all of you for your input --
Steve

HD Scaling to 960x540@30 fps or 1280x720@24 fps?

Wondering what the best way is to get source material (1080i or 720p, 60 fps) onto the ATV with the least quality degredation, two target file options being 960x540@30 fps and 1280x720@24 fps. Based on a little bit of fooling around, seems like former maybe looks the best (my display a large 1080p), latter has better resolution, but picture is a little jumpy, presumably from the reverse 3:2 pulldown that I suppose is happening. I am working with source material from EyeTV, if anyone thinks that makes a difference. And actually, exporting from EyeTV to 24fps might give a smoother result than exporting at 60 fps and doing the 24fps conversion with Quicktime. Not a lot of good information on this stuff out there, which I find surprising. Maybe an opportunity for someone!

Changing frame rate wouldn't be something I would do, but I have compared 720p and 540p at 25 fps, 25 fps is our native frame rate in PAL land and unlike 30 fps is accepted by the tv at 720p.
See my comparisons.
I suspect the fact that 540p is exactly half the vertical resolution has a great deal to do with things, but any difference there is, isn't worth the additional work of applying manual settings in my opinion, indeed I'm not so sure the slight difference is in favour of 720p anyway.

23.98 to 29.97 fps --- Capt Mench if you're out there help!!!

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