24 FPS Capture Question

HI
I am trying to capture some 24 frames per second footage I filmed on a Panasonic DVX100 and one of the Final Cut Pro capture settings is for the 2:3:3:2 advnaced pulldown removal for 24fps. However, in the summary, it has the frames per second listed as 29.97?? Is this something that I may have accidently changed or is it saying that because it has to be caputured at 29.97 to be able to play it properly? Thanks

Both 24p and 24pa material is recorded as 29.97 to the tape; the tape does not slow down. 24pa material has an advanced cadence ADDED to the tape during recording and it is then removed during capture, giving you a final fps of 23.98. The capture preset reads 29.97 because the tape is still 29.97.
Once the clips are in your browser after your batch capture, you should see their vidrate says 23.98.

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Capturing Question #1

Hi. I have two capturing questions that I could really use some help with, I'll keep them seperate.
Since downloading the new FCP update I have had a new warning before capturing and I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do about it. Quoted as follows:
WARNING: You are about to capture drop-frame media to a non
drop-frame clip. If you proceed, you may experience changes in
logged in and out points, problems relinking media, or removal of
master clip relationships.
Cancel OK
I just don't know as much as I should about this stuff. Not even what other info you guys might need. I'm capturing Firewire from a Sony TRV-22 to a 250GB external LaCie.
Thanks,
Ariel.
Dual 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5 Mac OS X (10.4.7) FCP 5.1.2, QT 7.1.3, 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM

The difference is in the TIMECODE. Somehow you have a batch of clips that have been logged with NON-DROP timecode...the : separators are all colons ":" that indicate that the footage logged was NDF TC. Drop frame separators look the same, but the last one is a SEMI colon ";" indicating drop frame code.
Re-log that tape and you should be good to go.
Shane

Spool Error capture question

Hi,
I am trying to spool data from tables into flat files. I am using the following scripts to accomplish it
1. A cmd file (windows) that makes a call to a sql file
2. The SQL file which generates another query file at the run time, depending upon the table name passed to it
3. The run time query file , that executes the final query and spools the data into a txt file | delimited
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Actual command passed C:\Spool_utility\spool_utility TABLE_NAME
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@echo off
SET dbuser=XX@YY
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echo %date% - %time% - Start > %1%log.txt
echo START
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echo %date% - %time% - Done >> %1%log.txt
echo DONE
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set echo off
SET newpage 0
SET feedback off
SET linesize 32767
set pagesize 0
SET wrap off
SET recsep off
SET con off
SET trim on
SET trims on
set verify off
SET doc off
SET termout off
SET arraysize 5000
SET HEADING off
set colsep "|"
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spool off
set termout ON
@ &1
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This works perfectly fine. But the issue is when someone passes some wrong table name or if there is a actual run time error while executing the query , the error with details itself itself gets written to the end spool file.
For eg : if i do this just to generate an error and execute it from command line, the query generates an error and writes the error to the spool file , but at the command prompt where I executed the command I do not see any error and the process seems to have run perfectly well
set xxx on xxx off as above
spool &1.sql;
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spool off
set termout ON
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ERROR at line 62:
ORA-00936: missing expression
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Thanks

Thanks for the reply.
Querying the data dictionary will work only when the issue is a invalid table name. My question is can i capture any run time error, not only incorrect table name.
If there is any run time error (for eg the one I showed where I used a >< sign which is a invalid operator) the error gets written to my spool file, but there is no way I am able to capture that in my calling sql script and subsequently in the calling command file so that I can do something with the error. For eg if a spool file may get written with error messages, some batch process or user may pick up the spool file and start processing which i dont want to happen. i would like to trap that error or at least be notified of the error at my outer calling sql file or outer command file level, so that I can write the error to a log file and delete the erroneous spool file etc.

Drop-Frame vs. Non-Drop-Frame Capture question

Hi,
I'm using Final Cut Pro 5 capturing 16:9 anamorphic video and removing an advanced 24 frame pulldown from my Canon XL-2. This is for a documentary for which I have captured over 30 full tapes of footage. I've been logging in the clips FIRST, then going back and batch capturing everything afterwards.
My question is this: I have logged everything the same way with seemingly all the same settings. However, when I capture some tapes I get the warning that I'm capturing Non-Drop frame media to a Drop-Frame clip and it could cause problems in the future with relinking. Then some tapes don't give me that message at all. Is there something I'm not noticing about how I log some tapes but not others? Would it have to do with the presets I have Final Cut set to when I'm capturing a tape? I'm fairly positive I've always setup FCP to the proper capture settings before logging anything...but could something else be causing this? Thanks for your help.
-JD

The thing to watch out for, both in logging and in capturing, is when you log or capture multiple tapes with mixed NDF & DF timecode.
There are three or four things that can affect this:
FCP5 and later allow you to set the TC format of the capture preset, such that the Log & Capture window would default to NDF if you are working with NDF tapes.
Otherwise, Log & Capture will still auto-detect during playback when logging, but you have to be sure to play the tape some before logging the clip. If you capture multiple tapes using capture now, You could easily start recording before the time code format updates. This kind of error results in a clip whose in point is the correct "number", but the format is wrong.
During Batch Capture, the device control is not always able to change the time code format. I'm not sure about FCP6, but I am in the habit of grouping my clips in batches according to the TC format. You ma be seeing this alert because you are switching the TC format of the tapes in the batch capture, but device control is "stuck" in DF mode, for instance. This is not an issue during logging, only capture.
I think it may also be possible to override the clip's logged TC format at capture by unchecking "use logged clip settings".
Capturing clips with the wrong TC format can really mess up recapture later. The offset that happens as the format gets converted back increases as the starting hour of the timecode gets bigger.
So basically you can have clips that get logged wrong, and clips that were logged correctly, but captured with the wrong TC. It's easier to miss it when logging, since there's no alert message to pop up. But the other alert is there to tell you there is a mismatch somewhere, preventing you from making the second kind of error. Your only error may only be that you had both DF and NDF clips in the same batch.
There is a trick to get the TC format to switch to the non-default for batch capture - Open Log & Capture and play the tape until you see the TC format update. Now start the batch capture with Log & Capture still open - device control will stay in that TC format now. Otherwise, I think device control switches to the format of the first clip in the batch, but stays there until you cancel and start a new batch.
Hope this helps -
Max Average

Trivial Image Capture Question

Image Capture works just fine for me, when downloading photos from my camera. My question has to do with the thumbnails displayed in Image Capture's window while the photos are being downloaded. In 10.4 there is an abrupt transition from one to the next, as they download, but I recall that 10.3 used the "rotating cube" effect for the same thing. Does anyone know why this disappeared in 10.4 --- or if there is any way to get it back again? Ever since I installed 10.4, I keep thinking I must be missing something about this admittedly trivial feature.
Can anyone either confirm that the rotating cube effect is indeed gone --- or let me know how to get it back again?

The feature got lost in translation somewhere. Don't know why--I thought it was kinda neat and rather miss it. Maybe it will reappear somewhere down the line.
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Capture question (novice alert!)

Hi. My wife and I just purchased Final Cut Studio 2 last week and are ready to import footage from our indie film production last spring. We shot the film using a loaner Panasonic DVX100 and plan to use our Sony DCR-HC90 NTSC Handycam to import the footage from the miniDV tapes.
My wife wants me to just plug it in and import it automagically, just like in iMovie. But I have the feeling that the process is more involved then that.
Will FCP auto-configure itself when I have the DCR-HC90 plugged in? Are there issues capturing from a camera that was not used to shoot the footage?
I imagine I will have to tweak the Easy Setup based on the parameters our DP used during production. Can anyone give me an idea of what settings I should use for the DVX100?
Best,
dior

Dior wrote:
Thanks for the assurances on using a "lesser" mini DV device to capture footage shot with a prosumer camera. I guess it's all bit stream at this point.
I guess I've not repeated this info in a few months, even though it's all there for anyone who starts a search.
One would think that it's all digital, just zeros and ones, so it'll all transfer, right? Not so fast. Not all dv devices will pass the digital bits that flag the pulldown fields so you have to decide how you will create your edit. Will you remove the pulldown and edit 23.98 fps or will you leave the pulldown in tact and edit NTSC? Well, as I just said, some devices won't read those pulldown flags so you won't be able to remove the pulldown, even if you want to.
This can't be stressed enough: Research and test your workflow, ESPECIALLY if you think FCP will perform some sort of "auto-magical" magic cause it won't. Years on into this grail of video, this 24p business, people still get it wrong as apparently it's difficult. Case in point, you aren't sure if you recorded 24p or 24pa even.
http://www.adamwilt.com/24p/index.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/24p_in_FCPnattress.html
I would thoroughly digest the above reading material before proceeding with your edit.
Yes, Studio X is correct again. DV25 is NTSC video with a visible raster of 720x480 pixels. It is either 4:3 or 16:9 anamorphic aspect ratio.
Good luck.

Live audio capturing question

We're using Reflectmedia and a Ultimatte DV. Since the ultimatte DV only captures either S-Video and output Firewire, we have no audio. Therefore, when the receiver of the wireless mic is connected to Digidesign M Box 2, I can hear it on the speaker. However, I can’t seem to log and capture the audio in on Final Cut Pro HD. Is there a way to log and capture the audio using a wireless mic?
I setup the Capture setting to use the MBox2 instead of the internal audi, or DV Firewire.
FCP sees the DigiDesign interface in the capture setting. I think that DigiDesign limits the abliliy to record from FCP. However, if FCP is actually recongnizing the interface, why couldn't I use it to capture audio from usb (MBOX2)while video from another firewire source, Ultimatte DV.
The problem here is, I'm attempting to "Log and Capture" the Ultimatte DV (whick only processes video and not audio), through firewire while I capture audio through another source.
Thanks for all your effort
I'm using:
MAC OS X G5, Version 10.4.8, Processor 4 X 2.5 GHz, Power PC G5, Memory 2GB DDR2. 5DRAM, MAC HD
FCP 5.0.4
ProTools LE 6.8.1
DigiDesign MBox2
Mic, Sennheiser Sk 100 G2
receiver Sennheiser Ew 100 G2

c3lolle wrote:
It would be very nice if you people could share some thoughts on a little problem I have.Sure thing.
I'm gonna try and capture audio from a flash-application (www.delorean.se/mixer) and convert it to a .mp3-file.
I browsed the web for a few days for a solution and first thought of using The Java Soun API but later read that it doesn't convert to .mp3 :(
I managed to read and create .wav files with it and it wasn't too difficult at all so it was kind of sad that there's no .mp3 support
Then I found JMF and saw that it has a mp3 converter plug-in :)Technically, no. JMF has an MP3 plugin that allows JMF to play MP3s, but the plugin does not allow you to create MP3s. Actually, the same plugin allows JavaSound to play MP3s too..
[http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/media/jmf/mp3/download.html]
Would the JMF be a good tool to use for my problem?No, because you cannot encode MP3s. Only decode them...
Does it work like Java Sound API?Not at all.
Does anyone have any general tips when it comes to capture audio from the web using java? (It feels like I've looked over the whole web and I didn't find anyone trying to do the same thing or someone who has done anything similar in the past)Capturing audio is easy. JavaSound + applet...but if you need to store it as an MP3, you're probably going to want to build an Adobe Flex application.
Adobe Flex is their free API you can use to build Flash applications. Google it.
I would be so very happy if I could get some answers on these questions! Be happy. :-)

Is JMF the right choice? (audio capturing question)

Hello everyone!
It would be very nice if you people could share some thoughts on a little problem I have.
I'm gonna try and capture audio from a flash-application (www.delorean.se/mixer) and convert it to a .mp3-file.
I browsed the web for a few days for a solution and first thought of using The Java Soun API but later read that it doesn't convert to .mp3 :(
I managed to read and create .wav files with it and it wasn't too difficult at all so it was kind of sad that there's no .mp3 support
Then I found JMF and saw that it has a mp3 converter plug-in :)
These are my questions:
Would the JMF be a good tool to use for my problem?
Does it work like Java Sound API?
Does anyone have any general tips when it comes to capture audio from the web using java? (It feels like I've looked over the whole web and I didn't find anyone trying to do the same thing or someone who has done anything similar in the past)
I would be so very happy if I could get some answers on these questions!
Cheers!
Edited by: c3lolle on May 15, 2009 6:05 AM
Edited by: c3lolle on May 15, 2009 6:05 AM
Edited by: c3lolle on May 15, 2009 6:06 AM
Edited by: c3lolle on May 15, 2009 6:07 AM

c3lolle wrote:
It would be very nice if you people could share some thoughts on a little problem I have.Sure thing.
I'm gonna try and capture audio from a flash-application (www.delorean.se/mixer) and convert it to a .mp3-file.
I browsed the web for a few days for a solution and first thought of using The Java Soun API but later read that it doesn't convert to .mp3 :(
I managed to read and create .wav files with it and it wasn't too difficult at all so it was kind of sad that there's no .mp3 support
Then I found JMF and saw that it has a mp3 converter plug-in :)Technically, no. JMF has an MP3 plugin that allows JMF to play MP3s, but the plugin does not allow you to create MP3s. Actually, the same plugin allows JavaSound to play MP3s too..
[http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/media/jmf/mp3/download.html]
Would the JMF be a good tool to use for my problem?No, because you cannot encode MP3s. Only decode them...
Does it work like Java Sound API?Not at all.
Does anyone have any general tips when it comes to capture audio from the web using java? (It feels like I've looked over the whole web and I didn't find anyone trying to do the same thing or someone who has done anything similar in the past)Capturing audio is easy. JavaSound + applet...but if you need to store it as an MP3, you're probably going to want to build an Adobe Flex application.
Adobe Flex is their free API you can use to build Flash applications. Google it.
I would be so very happy if I could get some answers on these questions! Be happy. :-)

Out of my League- video capture question.

I'm strictly an amateur here, so don't assume much prior knowledge. I just bought a nifty little video camera called the Hawk Eye nature cam, to be installed as a spy cam in a squirrel house (long story...!). It even has a little IR lighting system built in for low light situations - pretty cool. Its output is RCA jacks, white and yellow, which work nicely directly plugged into the TV.
Obviously, what I'd like is to get this feed to my computer, preferable eventually to be recorded/edited. I picked up a video DVR capture device, but being unaware that there was software involved, I did not check for Mac compatibility and found one that is not Mac compatible. It was quite inexpensive - go figure. ( Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/SABRENT-USB-AVCPT-Creator-Capture-Adapter/dp/tech-data/B00 11N9QNC/ref=deasmtd )
Questions:
1) might I be able to find 3rd party software that would let this capture device work for me? ( when I check my "about this mac" with the device plugged into the usb, it recognizes it as a video capture device.
2) If not, I have an EyeTV hybrid unit, which I used to use when I could get free network TV (yes, really, just through the Air!) but now sits idle since none of the digital signals are strong enough to use here. Is there some way that I can use its hardware or software to reach my goal? Would this require the "RF modulator" that I see, which converts rca to the coax that goes into the EyeTV?
3) Would I be better off just purchasing a different video capture device, specifically compatible with Mac? Recommendations?
4) Other issues I don't know about? format compatibilities, etc??
Many thanks - this is probably stuff most of you can do in your sleep!

Your Hawk Eye outputs a composite video signal (the yellow RCA connector). There are basically two ways you could connect this to your Mac -
1 - get an analog-digital converter (like the Canopus ADVC-110 ) or
2 - get an inexpensive miniDV camcorder that supports analog-digital passthrough and use it as your converter
In both cases you could use iMovie or Final Cut Express to capture your video. However you might find it useful to record from the Hawk Eye to a miniDV camcorder and later capture just the sections you want.
The little device you found on Amazon (and similar ones elsewhere) are not going to work. (Technical discussion available if you want to know why.)
The EyeTV Hybrid would require an RF modulator, as you guessed, and it would really mess with the video quality, so I don't recommend it.

Video Capture Question

I have a pretty basic question. I have been using Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 for the past few weeks and am positive this was an excellent purchase. It does what I need and more (I have taken several tutorials and understand basic functions fairly well). For my old data which was recorded on Mini-DV format (the new stuff is 1080P on SSD so it does not apply for my new stuff), my basic question is will capturing in CS5 using the DV out of my old camcorder provide the "same, better or lesser" results compared to using a specialized hardware converter. I will most likely get a response of "it depends", but would like guidance for those that have used CS5. I have used a hardware converter in the past with OK results.
Sorry for the newbe question, but would like a quick response if anyone has time. BTW - my PC is new build for video editing, has plenty of power and I do have mercury playback capability.
Thanks in advance.

I also have RCA jacks on the camera, however, no matter how good the A/D converter is (if using the RCA jacks), the firewire will still be the best.
Well, you basically have two different things there--yes, it's one camera, but you can use it to do two different things.
On one hand, if you have miniDV tapes, the Firewire is the only connection you'll use. At that point, you're not transferring video in the traditional sense, but rather you're effectively copying from the tape to your hard drive. Whatever is on the miniDV tape is the same as what you will end up with on the hard drive. The analog connections (the RCA jacks) won't be used for this process at all. So if you're talking about DV video, it's as good as it gets.
On the other hand, if you have some sort of analog tape like VHS or Hi8, you need to have an A/D converter between the tape deck and the computer--this is where the analog connections on the camera would come in to play. The basic map in this case is:
Analog deck -> RCA cable (or other analog connection) -> DV camera as an A/D converter -> 1394 cable (Firewire) -> computer
In this case, the better the analog signal is that you feed to the A/D converter, the better the captured digital video would look. Obviously, there are all sorts of variables here--playback deck, type of analog connections, quality and features of the A/D converter, and the DV codec itself--you can control some of those, and some you really can't, depending on what you have access to. If you're not dealing with analog video, though, you don't have to worry about any of this

Pass Through Capturing Question

Hi Guys-
I found a post very similar to my question that didn't quite answer it: I'd like to pass through my miniDV camera using a non-controllable device (either my VCR or 8mm analog camera). Usually when I have my AV cables AND firewire connected simaltanously I can get nothing, therefore nothing shows up on the capture screen. I have a Sony miniDV handycam, DCR-TRV 22. Any thoughts? Thanks!
-Jack

I take it you've adjusted the settings for your Camera? I use a Sony DCR-PC101 at home and, with the camera in VCR mode, I adjust the menu's VCR SET setting to A/V->DV Out.
Also, what are you feeding into the camera? In case it's anything that has MacroVision protection - hey, if your clients are like mine, it happens - Sony cameras do not pass those signals thru.

24p Advance Capture Question? Problem?

Hi I have a lot of material for a feature film shoot on a DVX100 in 24p Advance using a 16:9 anamorphic converter lens. I am Using FCP6 and I am capturing with a custom preset to be able to capture in 16:9 with the Remove Pulldown option cheked to edit in 24p (I will eventually transfer to film) The weird thing or problem that I am having is that most of the clips shows up as 23.98 as it should be But some times I get some clips in 29.97!!!! The camera Setting was never changed in Production!!! it always stayed in F6 the 24p Advance setting!!! I then tried the remove Pulldown options in Tools menu but I ended up with a clip with interlace fields!!!! very Weird!! So I thought that the tape was shoot in regular 24p, but I made a test shoot in regular 24p and then tried to remove the Pulldown via the Tools menu option but It won't let me because it was NOT shoot in 24pA!!! Si I have a Bunch of clips in 29.97 That I KNOW I shoot in 24pA but for some reason when I capture it doesn't remove the Fields and When I tried to remove it after capture I ended up with a interlace clip!!! Does anybody know id theres a Bug with this Workflow!! The camera is the DVX100 not the DVX100A or DVX100B. I used Cinema tools to convert the footage and it did it fine, But I want to avoid using Cinema Tools because it adds more time to the production!!! Can anyone have a clue? Thanks in advance!!!

I've been working with 24PA footage from a DVX-100A and an HVX-200 for three years now. I do find it tricky to get the Advanced Pulldown Removal to work properly during digitizing.
Now, the following advice relates ONLY to footage shot in the 24P Advanced mode. I have never worked with footage shot 24P "regular pulldown." I think you're supposed to just capture and work with that footage in 29.97 mode, enjoying the 24p "look" but not a true 23.98 frame rate.
Any little interruption - the camera stops for more than 15 minutes being the most common - will break the cadence of the 24p pulldown. So you have to break up your tape into clips which don't cross these "cadence breaks."
Also, some VTRs and cameras seem to work better than others. There's not always rhyme or reason to this (more expensive may not equal better performance.) For example, right now, I have some footage which my Sony DSR-11 deck was choking on but my friend's Sony FX-1 camera plays back for capture just fine.
My method is to rewind my shoot tapes to the begining, hit "play" then "Capture now."
FCP captures the whole tape, breaking up into clips, sometimes at inexplicable but always consistent places.
Usually, the last clip captured will be at 29.97 frame rate. The 24p "look" is still present in the footage, but obviously if you cut it into a 23.98 fps sequence, you'll have to render - a very annoying waste of time.
I observe the in and out points of any 29.97 clips, and capture new clips based on them. For example, if I get:
TAPE 001 TC IN 1:00:32:19 TC OUT 1:29:57:22 RATE 29.97
I make a new clip and capture it (batch capture if you like):
TAPE 001 TC IN 1:00:35:00 TC OUT 1:29:55:00 RATE 23.98.
The bottom line, though, is the more suitable your equipment, the better results you'll get.
Good luck. I hope this helps.

MiniDV camera/capture question

I have some MiniDV footage shot with an XL2. I need to get the footage captured as soon as possible but I don't have access to the XL2. I do have a $300 Consumer Panasonic MiniDV camera that's about 6 years old.
My question is will I have the same quality digitizing with the cheap camera as I would the XL2?

For the most part, the quality should be the same since its a digital transport. That being said, the heads on the XL are most likely a better quality and might do a better job of reading the information on the tape.
I make it a practice not to capture from the camera to limit wear on the heads, but thats comes with a debate from others who think that the tapes that writes the information will do a better job of reading it. I use a dedicated DV deck for capture.
Like Zeb says, give it a test and see if any noticeable flaws.

Capture questions

Hey guys I'm still sporting Studio 1, but once all the issues with 10.5.6 I've been having issues. I know why I've been having issues and know I need to upgrade to Studio 2 or downgrade to 10.5.5. I've got Studio 2 on the way. However I'm filming something this weekend with a borrowed mini DV camera. Usually I use hard drive cameras. I do not own a mini DV camera myself and will need to capture before returning the camera the next day.
My question is do you think Studio 1 will still capture without problem? I've been able to do editing since the issues started but haven't tried to capture. For me all my issues happened when I tried to export the video. Opinions? Will it work without messing up the capture? I could possibly get my hands on the mini dv camera after I upgrade to Studio 2 but don't want to have to get it again unless I have to.

I won't be able to get my hands on the camera until about 2 hours before I start the filming of the pre-wedding stuff. It's not like it's an emergency and I can't get the camera till later but just curious if it was possible while I had the camera. Basically I would be capturing during the reception. This will not be my main camera and is only being used for an extra static angle of the service.

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I am having trouble using the detect separate items feature in the Apple open image capture feature. Instead of separating the scans, it just does one big scan. Is anybody else having this problem? If it works for you, what type of scanner do you use?

Have you tried VueScan? It works well with several scanners. I would give it a shot. I have an old UMAX scanner that has no driver available for Mac OS X and VueScan made it work.
http://www.hamrick.com/
Here is the link to the latest Cannon driver. Looks kind of old.
http://tc.versiontracker.com/product/redir/lid/203799/LiDE20LiDE30v7010X.app.sit

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