3D Merge Frustration

I can't for the life of me merge two 3-D layers into one scene. I followed the instructions here...
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WS31576EB8-5348-4a1e-A4E7-7D122A56F41F.html
But they aren't even accurate. For one thing, there is no "Merge Down" in the layer panel options menu. There is a "Merge 3D Layers" in the 3D menu of the menu bar, but I CANNOT get it to enable no matter what I try. I'm fairly proficient with PS in general, and I've use 3D modeling and rendering applications, but this has me completely baffled. I must be overlooking something. This CAN'T be this difficult!
Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? ( I forgot to mention that I'm using CS4 on MacOS X 10.5.5.)
-Steve

> To get "Merge Down" to show up you need to have just the top layer selected.
I did.
> To get the "Merge 3D Layers" active you need to have 2 3D layers selected.
I did.
>The 3D layers you want to merge must share the same camera view. CAVEAT: your 3D layer can't include inactive items in the 3D {Scene} panel (things that Ps can't edit)
How do I tell what's active or inactive in the 3-D scene? None of the meshes are editable. As far as I know, PS doesn't have any 3-D modeling capabilities, does it?
>Here's very simple steps to see if you can get the basic functionality.
>1) launch Ps and create a default PS RGB document
>2) go to 3D> New Shape from Layer> Cone
>3) duplicate the 3D layer
>Now you should see "Merge Down".
That's all fine and dandy, but it doesn't help me with my real world problem. I need to get a model into the same scene as my panorama. Any suggestions on how to go about it?
>I have a feeling your 3D layers might have attributes that Ps can't edit and thus 3D Merge is disable.
How do I know, and how do I remedy it?
>How are you creating the 3D layers?
The model is in 3DS format, and it opens just fine in Photoshop. The panorama is created from a 2-D equirectangular image (a panorama that I shot and stitched). I map it onto a sphere in Photoshop using the "New shape from layer" feature.
This is a common use I had planned for the 3-D functionality in Photoshop, and I'm sorely disappointed that it's so difficult and nonintuitive. Why is there so much burden placed on the user to set things up just right in order to simply merge two 3-D layers?
-Steve

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    Combine that with Apple shipping a new version of Final Cut that is so radically different and so underpowered, and also discontinuing sales for FCS 3 suites and FCP Server (with no explanation about Server's demise or any intentions on bringing back multi-user functionality) and you can see how the dam finally burst in the Pro community and the angry flood waters rushed in.
    Apple better start communicating better with its pro customers, and re-assuring them that it's committed to professional work in this new era of the iPhone/iPad. Otherwise, a lot of people will be heading for the doors.

    Hello Derek,
    I'm a Graphic and Web designer, but have on ocassion have had to do some video work for clients, and had a passing interest in what Apple was going to do with FCP. And then the 'Net exploded in Pro Rage.
    But this is a kind of disturbingly familiar to me. The Design cimmunity had been feeling marginalized by Apples' full blown pursuit of the consumer market for a while. We've been put in the position of where a Mac Pro is TOO much, and often too costly for a small studio or freelancer, and the iMac is not flexible or expandable enough. Tho' they are now positioning the iMac as the "Mac Pro for the rest of us."
    But I frakkin' cringe every timeI I hear the word "magical" come out the mouth of an Apple exec.
    In the early 90's Apple virtually INVENTED "Desktop Publishing" with the Mac SE, Pagemaker, Postscript and the LaserWriter which changed literally everything in Publishing and Design... forever. They have since seemed to lose all interest in the industry they essentially created. Apple's attention seems to be fully consumed with the users of iThings, but hey, I work for a living.
    a Pro Editor's take on FCP X:
    "...these aren’t omissions. They’re mistakes. They’re conscious, deliberate choices Apple made and got wrong. And as long as FCP X shows you all your bins all the time, and as long as FCP X doesn’t have the concept of tracks in the timeline, it’s going to be literally unusable in commercial post." - Jeffery Harrell
    http://jefferyharrell.tumblr.com/post/6830049685/what-went-wrong-with-final-cut- pro-x
    It's very insightful, specific and worth a read.
    Over the years, I have generally preferred the Mac as a platform. It's a more elegant and less maintenance-intensive user experience and (for the most part) gets out of my way and lets me work. With Apple's current relentless pursuit of the "consumer computing" market, they seem to have lost interest in the professional market. But who's creating the apps and content for users to "consume?" The Mac Pro is now the last in the upgrade cycle, and last years update was dissapointing for the lack of Pro level capabilities that were highly desired in the professional community. I recall when Mac towers were first to get the shiny. While they are still certainly heavy metal, and priced to match, they are no longer awesome. They are not the dominant machines the G4 and G5 towers were, and you can now purchase workstation class Xeon machines on the PC side from several makers
    I certainly can't do pre-press or serious web design on an iPad, appealing little slab of electric crack it may be.
    "Final Cut Pro X review: Apple will happily **** off 5,000 professionals to please 5,000,000 amateurs." - Daniel Jalkut, on Twitter (via Daring Fireball)
    Pretty much sums up where Apple's seems to be. It's not the specific problems of FCP X that worries me, it's Apple's ATTITUDE. And illuminates why at times I feel Apple doesn't always have my interests as a Creative Pro at heart. At one time we were Apple's core and most loyal market, but I increasingly feel dismissed by Apple. Apple kicked the Design community to the curb years ago. And they antagonize Adobe at our professional peril. I literally live and die by Adobe's Design apps, without them I am literally irrelevant in the publishing world.
    But Apple is so frustratingly close mouthed about EVERYTHNG, that it's particularly hellish to try to plan for one's professional needs.
    I feel your pain.

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