3rd party SSD - Should I use TRIM?

Hey guys,
I've just purchased an ADATA SX900 SATAIII ssd disk for my early 2011 MacBook Pro 13". I've had it for a day now and everything seems to be working properly, but I've read online that I must install a TRIM enabler feature so the disk stays in good condition for years to come. What is TRIM and should I install that?
The computer recognises the disk as a solid state drive and everything feels fast.
I'm running OS X Yosemite.

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