865PE Neo3 + Radeon......

Problem: Computer will not boot up , No blinks , No Sound , No Nothing.... After I have tried manythings , I switched out my NEW and WORKING ATI Radeon 9600SE AGP Graphics card , For an old ATI Radeon 7200 AGP Graphics card I had laying around and the computer booted up fine.... So basically my problem is that my computer will not boot up with my good graphics card. But it will boot up with my old crappy one. I know its not my Graphics card because it works in another computer. My bro also has the same video card I have the ATI Radeon 9600SE card so I tried it in my computer and it booted up fine. So I am wondering why will my mobo not reconize my Graphics card but will another. And if there is anyway to fix this. Thanks. Below are my system specs just incase anyone needs them along with other useless stuff about my comp lol
System Specs:
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 520 - 2.80GHz - 800MHz FSB - 1MB L2 Cache - LGA775
Mobo: MSI 865PE Neo3 - Intel 865PE Chipset Based - 200MHz Bus Clock - BIOS: American Megatrends v5.2 *UP TO DATE*
Ram: 1 x Melco 256MB PC2700 (DDR) - 1 x Kingston 256MB PC2100 (DDR) - Total: 512MB
Video Card: ATI Radeon 7200 running The ATI Catalyst 4.5 drivers *NOT UP TO DATE*
Hard Drive: Western Digital 40 Gig HD Primary master
Cdrom Drive: LITE-ON LTN-529S 52x Secondary master
Dvdrom Drive: SAMSUNG SD-612 DVD-ROM Secondary slave
Floppy: 3.5 Floppy Drive
Soundcard: Reltek AC"97 (Onboard) running Driver Version 5.10.00.5760 *UP TO DATE*
LAN Card: Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Eithernet NIC (Onboard) running Driver Version 5.618.1015.2004 *UP TO DATE*
Operating Sytem: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 *UP TO DATE*
Case and Power supply: Thermaltake Xaser III V1000A Super Towercase with 8 red led fans with a Kingwin 450W 115V Divine Power powersupply with 4 color led fan and 3 other fans.
Mouse: Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical USB (5 button)
Keyboard: Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite
Monitor: MAG Innovision 770FS 17"
Mousepad: X Trac Ripper 11" X 17"
Headphones: Plantronics .Audio 90 Headset
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heh , Guess I forgot to mention some things...
I have put my new card into a system to make sure it works , And it does.
I have cleared the CMOS and tried and still don't work.
As far as the ram it could stop one video card from booting up and let another boot up fine? I will try it just in case. But anyone else have any suggestions?

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what should I exspect for a super stable overclock? Does the motherboard have tons of options?
Im going to be de clocking the memory so I can get a higher clock speed. Let me know if you know how well the options are. Thanks.
I hope at least 3.6 (It will have extra cooling 40 degree datacenter)

There's not only MSI make 775 with old chipset.
DFI even make 775 with 875 chipset. And in my country (in a mag), they complain it's faster than 915. -yes, I think it's right, no surprise-
I think it's not about OC but more about price. As the chipset is cheaper, and use AGP + DDR1, so you can still use most -expensive- part of your previous system.

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I have MSI 865PE Neo3-F mainboard and I have a few little problems with Neo.
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My second:
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My last:
What I should installing when I want to use all advantages of SATA HDD and what would be BIOS settings?
PLEASE HELP IT IS URGENTLY,CAUSE I HAVE TO WORK TO MY SCHOOL
ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
Thank you

At the first thank you for your reply.
Yes it works.
Sorry I didn´t post my OS.My OS is XP (with SP2,now).
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MSI 865PE Neo3-F
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ASUS FX5700 256MB
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Native Mode
ATA Configuration - PATA only (or SATA-only)
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PATA Keep enabled - yes
PATA channel selection - both
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connections looks like that:
on IDE ATA100 cable from IDE1 will be connect HDD ATA100 as Master and DVD as slave?
on SATA cable from SATA1 will be connect HDD SATA?
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thank u for the reply..i will post the psu spec later...
anyway the mobo's bios has been cleared many times but the problem just won't go away..i've disconnected the usb hdd also..
i can't get by to the bios post screen..the mobo stops at exactly when it's trying to boot (d-led: 1st led red, the rest green)..so in essence, whenever i turned on my pc, it stops when it's trying to boot and restart itself..
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its bound to be noisey thrashing round at that speed.
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Stop BIOS flashing and tell us what you are trying to do.
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Ok so i tried to flash the bios and i succeeded but the problem is that i flashed with winflash, bios v5.2 and from my understanding that version is for the boards that support dual channel cpu-s. The problem is that now when i try to flash the bios with version 1.2 it tells me that the size does not mach the installed bios size or something like that. I would like to add that now with v5.2 i have a lot less options (settings) in my bios. How can i flash back to 1.2?
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