Account grouping for account key PRD

Hello Gurus,
Is it possible to add new account grouping or modifier ( standard SAP provides Blank, PRA,PRF) to account key for Price difference account PRD in OBYC (automatic account determination) transaction.
The requirement is we are using PO condition type for freight and surcharge which is to be paid to a different vendor . In purchasing pricing procedure condition types can be mapped to freight and surchage account keys, in turn mapped to different accounts in OBYC
In the case of invoicing if difference in freight and surchage value occurs, system post both balance to PRD account through account modifier blank.So its difficult to identify what caused the account price difference.
If we can add new account grouping to how to attach to the invoice verification procedure?
Any help is appreciated
regards
Megha

Hi,
Group Modifier Key which has a different meaning depending on the procedure. It is used to differentiate account determination. The key's meaning is predefined in the SAP system and cannot be changed.
For offsetting entries for inventory postings, you enter the key which
is assigned to the movement type and posting string.
So the meaning here is you can define your own keys but it should be assigned to the Movement type and posting string which is very difficult as these two affects all types of businesses.
Thanks
Krishna.

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Im getting this error when a try to make a goods receipt whit trx migo and materials whitout material number and GR goods receip: 101. I try with the trx omjj whith movement type 101 and account grouping and then I don´t know how to do, I read I need a new entry here, but I don´t know how to do this. Some one could tell me if I´m doing the things right or exist any other way to solve this problem?
Here´s the exactly message error.
Account determination for entry CPES PRD not possible
Message no. M8147
Diagnosis
The system did not find an account for this transaction. This means that the account determination for key CPES PRD is not maintained in MM Customizing (Valuation). The key is made up of:
Chart of account
Transaction key (= Posting transaction)
Valuation grouping code
Account grouping code
Valuation class
System Response
The system cannot update a G/L account for this transaction. You cannot post the transaction.
Procedure
Contact your system administrator.
If you have the authorization, check the Account determination in Customizing for Valuation.
Proceed
Note
The relevant posting transaction can be found in Table T030A.
Best regards
Edited by: Alvaro Olmos on Aug 21, 2010 2:36 PM
Edited by: Alvaro Olmos on Aug 21, 2010 2:40 PM

Hi,
Use t.code: OBYC, Double click PRD, Enter Chart of Account.In next screen ,click RULES in application tool bar & then in next screen select check box of Debit/Credit but do not select check boxes valuation class, valuation Modifier & account modifier & save.( not required as price difference will goto one generic G/L).
Now come back & again use t.code: OBYC, Enter Chart of Account, Double click PRD & enter your G/L account for Debit/Credit& save.
Now try your transaction doing MIGO, you would not have any error now.
Better involve FICO consultant for the above steps.
For more check the link:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2531210/SAP-FI-GL-CONFIGURATION
Regards,
Biju K

Account Determination for entry GCOA PRD not possible

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If there is small diffrence in Invoice total amount send my vendor and system calculated value and ther is small diffrence then it shoudl go to small diff account
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SPRT ==MM == LIV == invoice block == Set Tolerance Limits
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Account Determination for entry GCOA PRD not possible
in OBYC for ur GCOA click on PRD key
and following should be the entry for ur Material valuation class
general modification      valuation class    gl account
(blank)                              xxxx                    xxxxx
PRA                                  xxxx                     xxxx
PRF                                   xxxx                      xxxx
PRU                                  XXXX                       XXXX
depending on ur posting rule set this
hope ur error will go
My question is how can we know the number of stocks that should be available for us to be able to IR?
when do MIRO or MIR7 system check what is the stock qty availabe at the point of posting
say Stk is 10 and u are posting 15 qty than system calculat the value for 10 and post the amount for 10 as inventory cost and remaning 5 will post to price dif account if ther eis change in rate of PO and invoice received.
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i done the same which you mention in earlier form. i manage to change the account group for vendor master.
now there is an another thing came out that is for normal vendor i able to change the account group but there is another vendor which is one time vendor means for vendor i am going to from normal vendor account group to one time account selected account group so in this case when i am changing the group in xk07 the system is saying a following message.
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hi
In account determination the setting in transaction OMWM - Define Account Grouping for Movement Types
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Thanks

OMWM is to decide account determination should happen via valuation grouping code or not. SAP standard is with valuation grouping code. I had never seen singe time anywhere it is deactivated.
Account grouping for movemement you can see in OMJJ. (Inside movement type left side). It is also predefined by SAP. You see only account modifier and check acct. assignment is editable. Others cannot be edited.
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Hai
Can any one explain me in detail about the account grouping for movement types,
in account determination without wizard,as i am unable to understand the lines for each movement types.
If u have any link, pl attach it also.
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Hi, Please refer the below link.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/12/1a39516e36d1118b3f0060b03ca329/content.htm
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