Activate Experied Useful life in Depreciation areas

Hi
I have to activate experied useful and experied perods in asset master . Since i have maintain opitinal fileds at screen laout level. Even those fields are not appear in the asset master.
please suggest

Hi There,
Before checking the field visibility, Please check whether you have created the Asset Master data with Reference?? if so, then you need to check the Settings in AO21
- Go to T-Code: AO21
- Select respective ScreenLayout
- On the last column "Copy" check box is not there??
Now you make necessary changes and do, problem should not appear.
Regards..Vinay

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Hi Mike,
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Hi Inna,
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My user has given a new scenario where we have to calculate tax depreciation for assets transferred from US books to SG books. When the transfers were executed, the tax depreciation area was not set up in the SG books' Chart of Depreciation. We do have other company codes assigned to the same chart of depreciation. For these other company codes, tax depreciation calculation is not required. In addition, the transferred assets and the assets in the other company codes share the same asset classes. The requirement is that we want to calculate the tax depreciation in the SG book only but not the other company codes.
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Hello Parul
Sorry but this functionality is only available as of release 6.0 if you have the
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particular section 4. c) Managing time-dependent depreciation parameters:
With the new depreciation calculation, you now have the option to
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the changed parameters are included in the calculation always
from the period for which the period is also valid.
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I have asset with useful life 10 years. Expired useful life 5.3 years.
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Hi,
1) Please see in AW01N in Parameters the following indicators:
Useful life     010 / 000
Exp. usefl life 005 / 003
Remaining life 004 / 007
If you change the Useful life is should be:
Useful life     005 / 006
Exp. usefl life 005 / 003
Remaining life 000 / 003
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It depends on your setting sin OAYR (smoothing or catch-Up). Please see following threat:
Smoothing- explaination.
3) You have created a change over method:
"5 Changeover after end of the useful life"
So, the depreciation changes into second phase:
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Hi Hari
Welcome to SDN.. This is standard behaviour....
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Dear Experts,
I have a requirement in one of my client, We need to extend the useful life of asset in mid of an asset fiscal year and the depreciation which was posted in the previous should not be changed.
Requirement:
Useful life of asset is to be extended after completing depreciation for 4 years and in-between the current asset fiscal year. Provided the present asset value has to be taken as the new book value of the asset and the depreciation posted henceforth to be posted based on the new asset value till the remaining useful life.
Previously posted depreciation should be unchanged.
Analysis:
1.      The fiscal Year followed - October to September.
2.      The useful life of asset will be changed, and the depreciated value posted till 31/mar 2014 will have the old depreciation value ( based on the original acquisition value)
3.      The Depreciation key used in of type LINR (linear), depreciation value will be calculated based on the Book value till the asset value becomes ZERO at the end of useful life of the asset.
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Note:
1. We are not willing to retire the asset and create a new asset with the remaining book value as asset value and start depreciation.
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Dear All,
This requirement has been completed.
1. I created New Multi level valuation method with base 26 ( Net book value w/o Revaluation ).
2. New depreciation key was created and the above method was assigned to it. I never changed the Base method.
3. new interval was created in the depreciation area, with this created dep key and extended the useful life of the asset. The depreciation was calculated according to the requirement.
Originally the asset had useful life of 5 Years, I changed the asset useful life to 8 years now with new Depreciation key 2001.
Depreciation was already posted to the asset till 04- 2013 for an amount of 148.27 SAR.
Net Book value carried forward to 2013 = 1575.56 SAR
Depreciation already posted till 4th period =   148.27 SAR
Current Net book value after useful life extension           = 1427.29 SAR .
Now the new depreciation key 2001 with Multilevel method 201, will take this Net-book value as Asset value and will depreciate along the useful life of the asset till it becomes zero.
Planned depreciation of 2013 ( remaining 6 months) = 166.24 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2014 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2015 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2016 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2017 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2018 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2019 = 131.25 SAR
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Use of Different Fiscal Year Variant-Statistical Depreciation Area Postings

An existing Company Code in SAP is going to have Fixed Assets implemented. This Company Code is setup just like the others in our SAP instance: Same Chart of Accounts, Same Fiscal Year Variant, Fixed Asset procedures, etc. For purposes of this question our company's Fiscal Year is from August 1st to July 31st. In addition, this Company Code will post Fixed Assets just like the other SAP enabled Company Codes into Book Depreciation Area 01. The company I work with is on ECC 6 but we use the Classic Ledger for Financials, and the Special Ledger is posted to but not really utilized.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/05/bc0bf3d8f811d1953e0000e82debf7/content.htm
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2) Is the article I posted accurate when it comes to how the reporting works and the need for setting up a Calendar Year specific Asset Retirement Routine? If so, what are the configuration steps for setting up a Calendar Year specific Asset Retirement Routine?
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Hello Rio. In our scenario, we still had to load assets in the legal entity with this issue. When we loaded the fixed asset data into SAP we did with data accurate as of December 31, 2011; which for book purposes is 5 months into our company's fiscal year, and for tax purposes is the end of the 2011 calendar year. The calendarized reporting for the tax depreciation will need to be pieced together manually using the SAP recommended methodology of combining report values, which I have pasted below.
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I hope this helps.
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Asset Acquisitions
Run the acquisitions list. Report date: 7/31/2012. Posting Date: 1/1/2012 to 7/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
Run the acquisitions list. Report date: 7/31/2013. Posting Date: 8/1/2012 to 12/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
Add the values of both reports together, using MS Excel.
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Run the retirements list. Report date: 7/31/2012. Posting Date: 1/1/2012 to 7/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
Run the retirements list. Report date: 7/31/2013. Posting Date: 8/1/2012 to 12/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
Add the values of both reports together, using MS Excel.
Depreciation
Run the depreciation list. Report date: 7/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
Run the depreciation list. Report date: 12/31/2011. Export the report to MS Excel.
Run the depreciation list. Report date: 12/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
Using MS Excel functions, subtract the second report from the first, and then add the third report (I - II + III).

Wrong depreciation calcualtion when we change useful life of an asset

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We change the useful life of an asset during the middle of the year. The deprecaiton calculation is not effecting correctly for the remaining useful life of an asset.
We are using stright line method of depreciaion. I will appreciate if any post some tips what is wrong .
Example:
Current State:
Acquisition value: 300,000
Acquisition date: 1/1/08
Useful life: 3 years
NBV 12/31/08: 200,000
NBV 6/30/09: 150,000
New life: 2 years, starting 7/1/2009
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Future State:
Requested methodology:
NBV at 6/30/09 divided by remaining life as of the date of the change: (150,000/6mos) $25,000
Can any one explain what is the issue

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By default, any change in depreciation parameters will recalculate depreciation from the beginning. If you want to change depreciation terms on different phases, you may need to introduce a depreciation key which changes percentage in multi-level method.
Best Regards,
Madhu

Re activate depreciation area: AFBN/RAFABNEW

Hi Experts,
We are trying to re activate an old depreciation area. I came across a note explaing how AFBN can help re activate. But the job RAFABNEW runs for chart of depreciation. I want to know if this can be configured to run for one company code.
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Financial Accounting >> Asset Accounting >> Valuation >> Determine Depreciation Areas in the Asset Class
Transaction Code
OAYZ
This can be done irrespective of whether the depreciation area is defined in the Chart of depreciation or not.
Detailed procedure is given in this link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/c7/dfbd8e1f1e11d384a700104b55af8e/frameset.htm
Kindly let me know if it is useful

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There is a difference between my ordinary dep area 01 and book dep area 03.
area 01 is having a USD100
area 03 is having zero USD
I need to zerolized area 01.
I have created a new TTY and limit the dep area posting to 01 in OAYA. However, when I tried to post via ABZE, it is giving me an error message AA350.
Diagnosis
According to Table T093A, if you use transaction type 050, area 03 has to adopt values from area 01 (chart of depreciation TPGL). However, the specifications made in Table TABWA for the two areas do not agree.
Procedure
Maintain the transaction type using the Customizing menu. Both areas have to have either the indicator 'propose for posting' or 'has to be posted'.
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Hi
I have a scenario in which depreciation percentage should be derived based on remaining useful life and it should remain same through out the remaining useful life.
For eg,
Take over date = 30.11.2010
Acquisition Date= 01.04.2009
Acquisition Amount = INR 200000
Depreciation Till 30.11.2010 = 70000 INR
Net Book Value as of 30.11.2010 = INR 130000
Total Useful Life = 4 Years or 48 months
Expired Useful Life = 1 year 9 months or 21 months
Remaining useful life = 27 months
Required Depreciation Per Month = 130000/27=4815
Derived Percentage = 4815/130000*100=3.71%
I have created a Base Method for calculation for Depreciation with Depreciation Method as "% from Remaining Life calculated from Depreciation Conversion Date". In Multilevel methods, I have assigned the Base Method as 24, Net Book Value
and maintained the check box for Remaining useful life.
However, the system is not calculating the rate as expected.
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New Depreciation to start from Mar (not Jan) after change of useful life

Hi
Does anyoe has any solution or will there be changes to SAP B1's Fixed Asset?
Let me explain the full scenario as below:
1) Customer has Fixed Assest which has useful life of 25 years, i.e. 300 months.
2) The assets has been depreciated for a few months, e.g from July 2008 to Mar 2009. In FA Master Data, it shows the remaining useful life is 294.
3) From Mar 2009 onwards, the management decides that the userful life is to be 30 instead of 25. The past depreciated value is to remain. The new depreciated value is to be effective from Mar 2009 onwards.
Changes Done
1) In Fixed Asset Master file, under the General tab, a change has been made to the Useful life from 300 to 360. The remaining life is auto-change to 354.
2) Re-run the depreciation for Mar 2009.
3) The new depreciated value is re-calculated from Jan 2009 onwards and the adjustment is posted in Mar 2009.
What is required is that Jan 2009 to Feb 2009 should remain the original depreciated value. The new depreciated value should be adjusted from Mar 2009 onwards.
Please advise is there any solution or proposals.
Example
Asset value = 518749.95
Useful life = 300
Remaining Useful life = 294
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1729.13
After Changes Done
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1436.09, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1436.06
Required
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Jan and Feb Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17
Mar 2009 onwards, Planned Depreciated Value = 1404.95
Calculation = (518749.95 - 20750 - 3458.34)/352
where 20750 is the depreciated value for 2008 and 3458.34 is the depreciated value for Jan and Feb 2009.
Thanks
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Hi Yatsea
Let me explain the full scenario as below:
1) Customer has Fixed Assest which has useful life of 25 years, i.e. 300 months.
2) The assets has been depreciated for a few months, e.g from July 2008 to Mar 2009. In FA Master Data, it shows the remaining useful life is 294.
3) From Mar 2009 onwards, the management decides that the userful life is to be 30 instead of 25. The past depreciated value is to remain. The new depreciated value is to be effective from Mar 2009 onwards.
Changes Done
1) In Fixed Asset Master file, under the General tab, a change has been made to the Useful life from 300 to 360. The remaining life is auto-change to 354.
2) Re-run the depreciation for Mar 2009.
3) The new depreciated value is re-calculated from Jan 2009 onwards and the adjustment is posted in Mar 2009.
What is required is that Jan 2009 to Feb 2009 should remain the original depreciated value. The new depreciated value should be adjusted from Mar 2009 onwards.
Please advise is there any solution or proposals.
Example
Asset value = 518749.95
Useful life = 300
Remaining Useful life = 294
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1729.13
After Changes Done
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1436.09, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1436.06
Required
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Jan and Feb Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17
Mar 2009 onwards, Planned Depreciated Value = 1404.95
Calculation = (518749.95 - 20750 - 3458.34)/352
where 20750 is the depreciated value for 2008 and 3458.34 is the depreciated value for Jan and Feb 2009.
Thanks
Siew Yuen

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