Different useful life in depreciation area - same depreciation

Hello,
I have the same depreciation key but different useful life for some assets master data, but when I calculate the depreciation, in the second depreciation area I have the same depreciation amounts like in the first depreciation area. The second depreciation area posts depreciation only...
Can you help me please?
Regards,
Mike

Hi Mike,
to answer this question you should at least provide detailed information about the depreciation key used. For instance depreciating with a stated percentage rate wouldn´t consider the useful life, same depreciation amount would be the result. And there are several other possibilities.
Regards,
Markus

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Note:
1. We are not willing to retire the asset and create a new asset with the remaining book value as asset value and start depreciation.
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Depreciation already posted till 4th period =   148.27 SAR
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Hi experts,
Hi have customized 5 depreciation areas:
01 book depreciation in local currency
30 deferred balance sheet in local currency (for different useful life)
31 deferred balance sheet in group currency
32 book depreciation in group currency
60 derived depreciation area
I specified that 30 will get values from 01; 31 will get from 30; 32 will get from 01; plus one derived for 01 and 30 difference.
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Message no. AA565
Diagnosis
The asset to be posted does not manage parallel depreciation area 31, or transaction type that you are using is limited to certain depreciation areas, and does not contain depreciation area 31. This is incorrect.
System Response
Posting is rejected.
Procedure
Check the asset and the transaction type.

Hi John.
In "Specify use of Parallel Currency" setup your currencies type/Valuation view.
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area “01”. Setup like below.
Now go to below
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After that go to define depreciation area and see if your depreciation area setting for 01, 31 and 40 is same. Please try to check in Sandbox first.
Please mark it as correct if your problem resolves, so it would be useful for other as well.
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Two Depreciation Area is required, one for Local Reporting and one for Group reporting. Depreciation area 1 has a minimum of 5000USD while Depreciation area 2 has only 500USD minimum amount acceptable for capitalization. In addition, they have different useful life. Any idea how to handle this in SAP?
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I checked the answer provide by yourself and
1) your first reply - it look exactly same as you advise
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* The parall. dep. area must have the same settings as the original area (e.g. allowing APC).
* The parall. dep. area must set for identical values take over.
* The parall. dep. area must set for identical parameter take over.
* The parall. dep. area must be assigned to the currency type which is defined as parallel in FI in trx. OB22 (e.g. 30).
* The parall. dep. area must be activated in the asset class (transaction OAYZ)
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Real Depreciation Area:
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