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I have a a Pub and 3 sub standalone servers all working fine.
I am trying to add a 4 sub (have the licence) running on VMWare.
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I am getting the following error message in the PUB Messages file :
: authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=ukhsl-iptcmsub2.uk.ftse.com user=sftpuser
Also in the Secuity log
: Failed password for sftpuser from [ip address] port 48182 ssh2
Can I recover the password, without breaking things ?
I am using the correct Security password (well the one I have used in the past)
Anyone any ideas
Thanks

Hi Ian,
Call me paranoid but I would open a TAC case due to these 2 bugs;
CSCtn79868 - pwrecovery tool resetting only sftpuser password
Description
Symptom:
Database replication broken after doing a security password RESET.
Conditions:
The password has to be reset, not changed.
Workaround:
Contact TAC to perform the workaround.
Details
1st Found-in:                          (1)
8.5(1)
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Status:
Open
Last Modified:
Feb 07,2012
Known Affected Versions:
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Fixed-in:                          (22)
9.0(0.95010.1), 8.6(1.99989.1), 8.6(1.99986.1)8.6(1.97011.2), 8.6(1.97011.1), 8.6(1.96000.51)
8.6(1.96000.1), 8.6(1.95190.40), 8.6(1.95040.1)8.6(1.95020.58), 8.6(1.95020.1), 8.6(1.10001.1)
8.6(1.10000.43), 8.6(1.10000.1), 8.6(0.99981.2)
8.6(0.98000.56), 8.6(0.98000.19), 8.6(0.95230.2)
8.6(0.95180.9), 8.5(1.12900.6), 8.5(1.12024.1)
8.0(3.23044.1)
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Product:
Cisco Unified Communications Manager (CallManager)
Platform:
Dependent
Severity:
2 - severe
Customer Reported:                          (29)
CSCti18766 - Pwrecovery and set password user security result in inconsistent hashes
Description
Symptom:After setting security password via pwrecovery, cannot add subscriber nodes to the cluster. They fail when contacting the publisher.
Conditions:Particular security password values result in a different hash via pwrecovery.
Workaround:None at this time.
Details
1st Found-in:                          (2)
8.0(3), 8.0(2.42011.1)
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Status:
Fixed
Last Modified:
Feb 28,2012
Known Affected Versions:
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Fixed-in:                          (5)
8.5(1.10000.26), 8.5(0.98000.38), 8.5(0.98000.18)8.0(3.11001.3), 8.0(2.40005.1)
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Product:
Cisco Unified Communications Manager (CallManager)
Platform:
Dependent
Severity:
3 - moderate
Customer Reported:                          (9)
Cheers!
Rob

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