ADF 10.1.2 vs JSF 10.1.3 - new project

Hello all,
This question is primarily directed towards the Oracle PM's, but I'm interested in any opinion. We are starting a new project in the next week or two, and I am trying to decide which version of JDev and which technology to use for the view layer. We will be using ADF (entity and view objects) for the data layer.
Now, ADF/JSP/UIX is there today in 10.1.2; but 10.1.3 is hot on it's heels and supports JSF. This first phase will be a quick and simple implementation (8 weeks or so).
My question, which version of JDev would you use, and would you use JSF or not?
Kind regards,
John

Shay's question about experience is a good one. If you're not already proficient at UIX then I would choose JSF. If you've done very little J2EE/Java/JSP/HTML development work, you've got a couple of months of ramping up to be able to accomplish much tangible.
I've been working on a project for a couple of months using ADF BC on the backend and JSF/ADF Faces for the View. The enticement was built on the expectation that 10.1.3. would be going into production very soon, and it seems that this is true, from what little hints and clues I can pick up from these tight-mouthed Oracle guys. ;-)
The disadvantage of going that way is that the documentation sucks for doing anything but the most basic, declarative user interface development, especially if you want to use ADF Faces (there's some decent resource out in the world for JSF development, although even that is pretty thin). This is promised to be much improved with the production release.
For the business services development, unless you already know ADF Business Components I strongly recommend grabbing a copy of the Oracle JDeveloper 10g Handbook. It fills in many of the gaps that otherwise leave you at a loss for how to tie the backend pieces together.
Good luck!
Johnny Lee

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