AED for first stage dealer asset

hi
we r buying assets from first stage dealer
we did all configuration regarding AED
for normal purchase and FSD purchase it is woring ok
now when we take ASSETS with FSD we r not able to post AED
errror ,BALANCE IN CURRENCy
plz hlp
Edited by: Kunal Ingale on Mar 29, 2010 11:04 AM

solved with ticking LIABLE FOR AED for specific plant EXCISE REGISTRATIOn
Edited by: Kunal Ingale on Mar 29, 2010 11:33 AM

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My question is how to maintain the Tax code / Assessable Value so that we can keep the Excise Amount to be paid to our Dealer constant.
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Vendor B = Dealer
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Qty 10
Price 10
Amount 100
Excise 10.3
Here the Excise Amout paid to A by B is Rs. 10.3
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cu rod         1733       256.77          8                          19.2                   33273.60                     444991
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                                                    1                         .192                       332.74
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