AGP ATI A-I-W 128 Pro, ViewSonic P810

Kdmconfig finds 32mb video adapter and
generic 20 inch monitor, but will not config color
all patches are installed
what works??
thanks
Rod

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=313
Support AGP 4x slot (1.5V only)
i would say you cannotr use it based on what you have said

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Has anyone used an ATI All in Wonder 128 Pro with the 845E Max? Are they compatible?

I have an 845 E Max and an old ATI All In Wonder Pro 128. The ATI is a Rage Pro 128 with a Universal Connector Type and AGP Spec of 2X. MSI says it will work, but I fear conflicts with a vid card that has 3.3v spec for a 1X.
Anyone have any advice?
Anyone have any recommended power supplies for the 845E Max?

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=313
Support AGP 4x slot (1.5V only)
i would say you cannotr use it based on what you have said

Hmmm.... Original 16 Meg ATI AGP Rage 128 Pro or 32 Meg ATI PCI Mac 7000 ?

I have both of these cards installed in my 466 (soon to be 733) MHz DA tower.
Which one should I be using for best all-around performance ???
M

Jeff sez:
The Radeon GPU is better/faster than the older Rage 128 Pro. In addition to having more memory, the Radeon cards have DDR SDRAM, as opposed to the SDRAM found on the Rage card. The performance difference between the two cards is noticeable, so I'd go with the Radeon.
I sez:
To check out the difference between PCI vs AGP video performance I used a 22 inch LaCie set at millions of colours on my AGP Graphics Digital Audio G4 tower, I installed two contemporary video cards in it and then ran only the video component of XBench on the computer twice, once with the monitor connected to each card and nothing connected to the other. The results were more or less what I expected, but they were interesting. The two cards I used for the test were both ATI cards. One of them was the 16-meg Rage128 Pro AGP card that came stock in my 466 MHz DA G4 tower and the other was a theoretically much better 32-meg DDR ATI Radeon PCI 7000 Mac Edition. The only other installed PCI card (besides the Radeon 7000) is a VIA Vectro VT6212L USB 2.0 card.
When the video testing was all finished the AGP card, with 16 Megs of VRAM, scored considerably higher than the 32-meg PCI card in every category of the test. The overall XBench score for the computer, with no other changes, was 32.08 with the PCI video card and 38.04 with the Rage 128 Pro AGP graphics card installed. Frames per second for spinning squares results were 55.58 with the PCI card, 65.77 with AGP. What was most notable was the Text results: only 2.13 thousand characters per second with the 32-meg DDR Radeon 7000 Mac Edition versus a whopping 5.12 thousand characters per second with the 16-meg AGP card.
I suspected the AGP was better than PCI but I did not expect a 16-meg AGP card to overwhelm a PCI card with 32MB of double data rate memory. Live & learn.

Supported flat panel displays for an ATI Rage 128 Pro/G4 500

I originally was using an Apple 21" CRT display with my G4/500 until the display's picture tube failed. I am now looking to purchase a flat panel w/DVI, using my G4's DVI video port and the Rage 128 Pro card. I have found conflicting information on resolutions supported by the ATI card. I am looking at a Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Wide Aspect Flat Panel LCD, and the requirements indicate that my system must be able to support WSXGA+ resolution (1680 x 1050). A 24" version of the Dell monitor requires the support of WUXGA resolution (1920x1200). WIll either of these flat panel monitors work with my G4? If not, what specs do I need to look at to determine compatibility? Thanks.
Apple G4 500 Mac OS X (10.3.1) ATI Rage 128 Pro Graphics Card

Hi JBernstein,
Karl,
I greatly appreciate your efforts to resolve my
question.
No worries, Mate!
To address a question you posed earlier, no, my G4
did not come with a ADC port. I have both VGA and
DVI-D ports on my G4/500 (Graphite) with the Rage 128
Pro ADP card, which is 16 mb and 2x.
From that, I would infer that you computer is not ADC enabled.
It was the Genius at
the Apple Store who mentioned the Radeon 9000 card as
a replacement. but he also suggested that the current
20" Apple display would work with my G4 ... we tried
that today, and the OS would not launch and power the
display. SO, we must replace the card, or live with
small displays.
Yes, the ATY 128 Pro generally does not have enough grunt to power the larger displays.
I did find a number of Radeon 9600 Pro Mac Edition
video cards on eBay, but most had a published spec of
4X, and the response to whether it was backwards
compatible with the 2x capability in my G4/500 is
that it will not work. Is that true?
All the information I have (via the ATI website) does not specifically state that the 9600 card will support AGP 2X. Other ATI cards that do support 2X have this specifically stated in the information. Therefore, there is no garauntee that the 9600 card will support 2X. Until I receive information that someone has used this card in an AGP 2X computer with success, I cannot advise trying to use it.
I have not
confirmed the Radeon 8500 as yet, but as you might
imagine, it is frustrating to get conflicting
responses.
The ATI Radeon 8500 will work in your computer (as, partially, will the 9000 - refer to my earlier posting).
Perhaps you might address a different question ... is
there any place within Apple that I can go, even with
paying a fee for services, that would definitively
provide an absolute solution to an upgrade type
question, complete with exact part number AND
guarantee that the information is quite accurate? Why
wouldn't Apple provide some type of infomration on
replacement/upgrade path for older products (geez ---
the G4/500 Graphite isn't even on the legacy products
list yet) so that the customer can invest and upgrade
without going through a challenging process to get
the right information? The information I've turned up
is vague and not geared towards solutions like this.
Apple, for all sorts of reasons (legal and commercial), is loath to provide "official" advice on the use of any third party upgrade hardware on their products. Moreover, discussions on the morality of this is probably against the terms and conditions of this discussion forum.
I'm all ears as to how to move forward with this G4
with a replacement card, if that is possible.
The way I see it, you need either an ATI 8500/9000 if your only desired upgrade is the capacity to run larger displays, or an ATI 9800 is you wish to do gaming, graphics and be able to make full use of all the new Tiger graphics facilities.
Cheers!
Karl

PCI ATI Rage 128 Pro

I just bought an ATI Rage 128 Pro 32MB PCI video card for my early quicksilver G4 (733 MHz, 1GB RAM). The idea was to add a second monitor to my 15" Apple Studio Display connected to the AGP card (ATI Rage 128 Pro with ADC and VGA). Doesn't work though:
Card does not show up in System Profiler.app in either PCI or Graphics/Displays
Display does not show up in System Preferences.app - Displays tab
Quick search on Apple.com, ATI, OWC, and Google reveals no driver information for this card.
Thanks in advance,
-- Aubrey Granner

The reason I bought this card was how I plan to use it and what I already have.
Right now, I have an older Apple Studio Display that I like and don't want to replace. It requires a Apple Display Connector, so that means I have to keep the current AGP card:
from System Profiler
ATY,Rage128Pro:
Chipset Model: ATY,Rage128Pro
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 16 MB
Vendor: ATI
Apple Studio Display:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1024 x 768
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Not Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Not Supported
I just bought a new LCD TV and it's near the mac so I thought I'd get a VGA cable and watch videos on the new screen. I don't need the "horsepower" because I'm not doing intense graphic processing, just flat, high-resolution video (I like to watch European TV shows).
Because of these reasons I bought the cheapest PCI card I could: $20
If there's another card that will work for what I want to do without breaking the bank, please let me know.
Thanks,
-- Aubrey Granner

Which graphics cards will work in a G4 that came with a Rage 128 Pro AGP?

My ATI 9800 Pro Mac just died and, though it is under warranty, it is taking ATI a while to replace it. They don't sell them any more, so they told me they refurbish them. I need a card that works so I can use my computger NOW, while I'm waiting. I have a heavily upgrade G4 that supports my software so I don't want to upgrade with a new system. Any ideas for a quick fix would be greatly appreciated. I'm losing faith in ATI.
Thanks,
zrants.

Better still, if you are just looking for a card to fill the AGP slot until your high performance card comes back from the shop you could EITHER
a/ pick up another 16-meg AGP Rage128 Pro if you can't find your old one. That Rage 128 Pro card was actually a VERY decent card for its time and is compatible with the new versions of the Mac OS.
b/ put in any cheap 8 or 16-meg OSX-compliant PCI card (unless all of your PCI slots are filled).
If its simply a matter of asking you could probably borrow something for a few days. Everyone who has played with PCI Macs has at least one old ATI PCI video card kicking around in a box in the basement or sitting on a shelf.

ATi Rage 128 PRO with DVI adaptor

I got a PowerMac G4 with Ati Rage 128 Pro which has a VGA and a DVI port on it
I would like to know if the DVI port going to work with the Apple DVI to Video adaptor?
I know the postage of the adaptor said it is only for PowerMac G5 and Mac mini but is there any differences between the DVI port on the ATi Rage 128 PRO and those on G5 and Mac Mini?
Is there any other solution that I can output the display to a TV with s-video or RGB?
Thank you so much!!
Cheers,
Lawrence

I got a PowerMac G4 with Ati Rage 128 Pro which has a
VGA and a DVI port on it
I would like to know if the DVI port going to work
with the Apple DVI to Video adaptor?
I know the postage of the adaptor said it is only for
PowerMac G5 and Mac mini but is there any differences
between the DVI port on the ATi Rage 128 PRO and
those on G5 and Mac Mini?
It's not the port, but the card that matters. The conversion to video is done by the card. The adapter just sends the output to the correct pins. I think the only cards that work are the recent ATI cards. Yours is probably too old. ATI's web-site doesn't have any information on it.
Is there any other solution that I can output the
display to a TV with s-video or RGB?
You can get a newer graphics card or use a VGA to Video converter.
<http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/PC-TVvideoadapter.html>
There are other, cheaper, ones.

Questions regarding ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics card in Sawtooth

Hi, i was checking on the web regarding the specs of my Sawtooth and stumbled upon this page: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermacg4/stats/powermac_g4_400agp.html
My Sawtooth comes with the ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics card. Its indicated the max resolution support is 1920x1200. I was wondering if it is able to support resolution 1680x1050 for wide monitors like the Samsung 205BW? Have anyone tried using a wide screen monitor with the Rage 128 pro card? Does it work well?
I'm not a gamer and i don't intend to upgrade the graphic card. (Though it would be nice to get my hands on the a Radeon 8500 or 9000.) I mainly do graphic work, and currently using a Samsung 740B monitor set at 1280x1028 resolution.

Hi, I posted the exact same question in another forum, and i was directed to this link: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=58395
So i guess it does work. Though maybe, to a certain extend, like mentioned by one of the forum members:
"My old Sawtooth 400MHz G4 had an ATI Rage 128. It drove my 20inch Apple Cinema Display (the current design) with DVI. Not the best graphics, but it could do it, and without any hacks too..."
Hope this helps with anyone having the same questions... : )

ATI, Rage 128 pro display card won't work on 23"hd cinema display Help....

My rage 128 pro won't work on this 23" display, it simply went black, i would like to know if I can purchase a vga to dvi adapter to solve this problem without buying a new video card? thanks
G4 400mhz Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Are you in the US?
Europe?
These 6-pin cords are readily available for not much money, but the searches are toturous, often involving references to the G5. Like this one from Amazon (US):
http://www.amazon.com/PCIe-Power-Cable-nVidia-Video/dp/B002UR1654/ref=sr_1_1?ie= UTF8&qid=1388019109&sr=8-1&keywords=6-pin+aux+power+G5

15" Apple flat screen monitor will it work with rage 128 pro

Hya, I have just bought a 17" Apple monitor and want to know it the rage 128 pro AGP card will work or whether either of these on ebay are suitable, I am totaly confused with all the different variations.
Item 230117175047
Item 130100198656
Thanks for any advice you can give
Robert

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Can't install Rage 128 Pro in my Powermac G5

I have a 2.3 Ghz DP (not dual core) Powermac G5 with AGP Pro slot.
I have very minimal video needs, and would love to replace the X800XT card currently installed with something with very low AC requirements so that I can reduce the heat (and resultant need for fans) in the G5. I'm using the G5 for audio only and the fan noise is killer.
I thought I'd just swap in a Rage 128 Pro (as used in my G4 Cube), but no dice.
What is the least powerful graphics card I can install?
thanks in advance

what about something like this? cheaper, and looks like it generates less heat, given the much smaller heat sink.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310184354688&ssPageName=STRK: MEWAX:IT
Would a rage pro 128 card with the 'registration tab' work in AGP Pro slots?
for example,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120496950714&ssPageName=STRK: MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400059112053&ssPageName=STRK: MEWAX:IT
Perhaps these won't work because they are not Mac specific?
Thanks for all the help guys

Rage 128 Pro and HP Monitor= 'Input Not Supported'. Need help.

I recently purchased this monitor for my Mac G4 (Digital audio model with Rage 128 Pro);
http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=7246171&Redir=1&description= HP-Smart%20Buy%20w19%2019-inch%20LCD%20Widescreen%20Flat%20Panel%20Monitor-Monit ors
When I power up the Mac I can see the apple logo as OSX starts to boot but soon thereafter I get a black screen with a little floating window that says, 'Input Not Supported'.
What does this mean in technical terms and do I need to return the monitor?
Thanks.

Hi-
The monitor is telling you that the input being received is not supported. This is because the rage 128 is too weak a graphics card to drive the HP Monitor ( or any LCD over 17" for that matter).
You will need a better graphics card to run the display.
As for which graphics card, basically, most any 4x AGP Mac compatible card +other than+ the Rage 128 (or Pro) will work to drive the monitor.
http://hardcoremac.stores.yahoo.net/memory3.html
http://www.welovemacs.com/agpvideocards.html
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/video/hardware/

Resolution of Rage 128 Pro?

What is the max resolution of the Rage 128 Pro using the DVI port?
Will it run a 20" 1680 x 1050 DVI-D monitor?

Hi-
The Rage 128 Pro will support one display at up to 1600 x 1200 resolution.
It may drive the 20", but no larger, and only up to the cards max resolution.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58756
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58692
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58558

K7N420 Pro AGP ATI Radeon 7200

Hi,
This may sound like a stupid question to many - forgive me my ignorance.
I have a K7N420 Pro and I was thinking of fitting my ATI Radeon 7200 (64MB SDRAM). This is a "3 Golden fingered" AGP card 3.3V and 1.5V 2x/4x compatible.
I noticed my motherboard's manual says that only 1.5V AGP cards can be used.
All I really need to know is, can I fit this card to my MoBo without damaging it - Electrically (I know it fits physically).
Any help you can give me - greatly appreciated.
Thanx in advance
AxelUKToo

Hello Again
Actually I did use the onboard video - and found that text on screen (WinXP) was barely readable - my Radeon however has no such handicap.
Thanx for posts so far
:P

K8T Neo and AGP ATI 9700 Pro...Video Problems!

This computer has been out of service for almost 6 months as I have replaced it with a new one. I grabed it today and loaded XP Pro on it without any problems. I have 2 monitors attached to the ATI 9700 Pro both running at 1600x1200. After configuring the new OS with updates and drivers I rebooted. This is where the problem surfaced.
PROBLEM:
I get to the XP PRO Loading screen with the progress bar. After a few seconds, 2 revolutions from the progress bar, the screens go black and a few seconds after that the monitors go into standby due to the lack of a video signal.
MORE INFO:
Several times when I tried to reboot, the PC would not display video at all and beep (the video error), 7 times (I think). Now this problem is not happening. Although I did get random characters all over the screen once.
I can boot into Safe Mode without any problems.
480w Thermaltake PSU
THEORIES:
The AGP slot is having problems changing the resolution from default to 1600x1200 for the monitors.
NOTE:
This computer has always had problems, 99% of which were playing video games. The problems I experienced in video games were that the computer would lock-up or automatically reboot after random time intervals when playing games. The games I noticed it having the most problems with were Everquest II and World of Warcraft. I replaced this machine with a Dell and have had no problems with either application. Therefore I can rule out faulty software. At the time before replacing this machine I tested everything, Memory, Hard Drives, etc...

AMD 64 (Don't Remember the Speed)
MSI KT8 Neo
2x512 MB PC????
Built-By-ATI 9700 Pro 128MB
1x200GB WD SATA
LiteOn DVD-ROM
Yamaha CD/RW
Realtek AC97 Onboard Audio w/ Cheap Dell Speakers
Some Realtek NIC (PCI)
Enermax Case wit ALOT of noisey fans (I hate noise)
Some dumb case light kit too.
Thermaltake 480W SilentPower
Windows XP SP2 (Installed a few days ago and still not working)
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