Album Sorting Issue

How do I keep from my 20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection from going into the same folder with the other artists? Does anyone know?
I have about 3 of 4 different artist of The Millennium Collection but since the album title is *20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection* then it puts them all together in that same folder. I think part of the problem is that the folder name is shortened.
Help
Thanks
Garth

I change the album name to include the abum or band.
20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection - The Best of The Allman Brothers Band
20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection - The Best Of Tom Jones
20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection - The Best Of Neil Diamond

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Cover flow and album sort issues

I just got a 80GB iPod classic for Christmas and I have noticed some annoying differences between iTunes cover flow and iPod cover flow:
1. In iTunes cover flow, when you have songs with "Unknown Album", they clutter up the cover flow for each artist. In iPod cover flow, they are sent to the back of the cover flow in a nice little "Various Artists" cover. I like how this works on the iPod better.
2. iTunes cover flow sorts by album artist, so you don't see a separate album for each non-album artist song.
For example: If I set my album artist for the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack to "Saturday Night Fever" (don't ask why, this is how i like it sorted) then I will only see one "Saturday Night Fever" rather than one for Bee Gees, one for Kool & the Gang, etc.
iPod cover flow sorts by artist, so you see a separate album for each non-album artist song. I like the way this works in iTunes better.
3. When sorting by "Album by Year" in iTunes, syncing the iPod doesn't seem to follow the same sorting. Albums are still sorted on the iPod alphabetically. I want them to sort by year on my iPod.
So I would appreciate it if someone could help me with all 3 of these issues. As you can see, sometimes iTunes is better for me, sometimes iPod is better for me.

3. Playlists should be sorted in the same way as they are in iTunes. The Cover Flow order is fixed.
This is not the case, at least not with iTunes 7.5.0.20 and my 80GB Classic running 1.0.3 on it (current version as of this writing). In iTunes, under LIBRARY, I select Music, and I have my music sorted via *Album by Year*. This works perfectly in iTunes. I'll use my Soundgarden library as an example, as it shows the problem nicely.
*_iTunes order_:*
Ultramega OK
Louder Than Love
Screaming Life/Fopp
Badmotorfinger
Superunknown
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Down on the Upside
A-Sides
That's ordered by date and is perfect. +Ultramega OK+ was released way back in 1988, while A-Sides was released nearly 10 years later in 1997. In Cover Flow View it works great. However, in the iPod it's sorted alphabetically, which is completely wrong:
*_iPod Classic_:*
A-Sides
Badmotorfinger
Down on the Upside
Louder Than Love
Screaming Life/Fopp
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Superunknown
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This is totally wrong. And I haven't yet found a way to force it.
Apple, please, this shouldn't be that difficult.

ITunes album sorting issue

Hi everyone. ( :
I'm currently having a minor yet aggravating issue with iTunes, where—upon album import—it separates albums, or even singles. It's a bit hard to explain, so I've included an image capture of the problem:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6150/itunesissue.png
I've checked the ID3 tags and pretty much everything, and iTunes still doesn't join the albums, and the fact that I can't figure out why iTunes does this is what's so annoying.
It only happens when I click the arrow to show the artwork in the list view, but it doesn't happen to all my albums and singles, though, just the few, and so far, the only temporary workaround that seems to do the job is going through the ID3's (empty) sorting fields and typing a single space in each box, like so:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/254/itunesissue2.png
It'd be nice to be able to import my music without having to do all that, of course. And since I've never had this problem in any of the previous versions of iTunes, I wonder if my particular problem is a bug or something?
Is anyone else having this problem as well? I've been lurking through the iTunes forum and haven't seen another report of this issue. I'm kind of at a loss as to what I should do about this.

I have had one or two cases of album names appearing identical in every regard except a very slight difference in appearance of one of the characters which suggested it might be derived from a different font or something similar. In that case pasting the information from one file to the other overcame the issue.
The other thing to check is if the artists are all absolutely identical too. Again, it is easy to accidentally introduce a space, or to use one kind of dash instead of another which may be almost indistinguishable to you but forces itunes to think the album is an album with the same name but by a different artist so it isn't really one album but two.

How do I print a list albums sorted by artist

iTunes 12.1.2.27 Windows 7 SP 1 (64 bit)
I would like to generate a list of albums in my library sorted by artist. This used to work fine before I upgraded to iTunes 12 last fall by using File > Print > Album listing / Theme: List of albums.
Since the iTunes 12 upgrade the list is generated sorted by album title and not by artist. I have my View options set to Albums - Sort by Artist them by Title.
Even though the theme clearly states sorted by artist, it generated a list sorted by album title. How do I fix this so that it generates what the theme description states?
Thanks for your help and insight in restoring the old print behavior.

Hi ed,
I am on iTunes 12.1.2.27 ... but what I get is albums sorted by title in both the preview and the output file. This behavior has been consistent since I upgraded to iTunes 12 ... with iTunes 11 it did work like what you are seeing. I do think it is some sort of bug ... iTunes 12 was not the smoothest software upgrade I have see. I did run into a lot of lock-ups and trashing of album art in the 12,0 releases but this latest release (12.1.2.27) seems to be have taken care of most of those issues.
I might look into doing a complete removal of iTunes and then try a new clean reinstall but I was hoping that maybe there was some setting, or config file parameter, that might fix this..
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Cover Flow Sorting Issue - Workaround

Here is a temporary solution to the Cover Flow view & the Album Art Grouping view.
As many of you know the sorting by 'Album' or 'Album by Artist' or 'Album by Year' in the above mentioned views is not correctly prioritized.
The issue stems from the fact that the sort algorithm prioritized 'Artist' over the expected logic implied by grouping by the sort field name. So if a single album contains tracks all by different artists, you will get a Album Cover for each artist NOT each album.
To get around this (until Apple fixes it) use the 'Album Artist' field (which is usually, but not always, empty) and set this field to a common value for an entire album — such as 'Various Artists.' When doing so, the logic will still sort on the Artist Name first, but will group the entire album together.
If Sorting by "Album by Year" then the only hitch to this method is if you have two or more albums with the same & progressive title (see example below.) Then the album will sort in order of the Artist name of the 1st track of the album. — This probably will affect nearly zero of the the iTunes population though.
e.g. The album sort order will be:
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Album: "Music 01" 1st track Artist: "Viggio"
Once again just set each album with a common "Album Artist" descriptor. I use "Various Artists"
-Alan
Note: Also there is a new field in the info tags for each song called 'Album Artist.'
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Hi,
just change the switch Compilation to true for all songs in the album and it works too.

Track order wrong even with "artist-album" sort

I've been having this problem ever since upgrading to iTunes 7 and I was a hard core non-updater until I bought a new computer and had to.
When I sort by Album, the tracks aren't in order. When I sort by "Album-Artist" most are in track order except compilation CDs which had been ripped with Windows Media Player (before my iPod days). When I moved my music to my new computer I forgot to uncheck that little box next to let iTunes do my sorting and it sorted my compilation CDs by artist. Is this why I can't get them in order? More importantly, am I going to have to re-rip all these compilation CDs to get them in order? Is there a good trick to get these compilations tagged correctly? They're all double disks from Germany so I'm worried I'll have to do it by hand.

Album art issue?
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Reset your phone, restore your phone, and then resync. That ought to do it.

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iTunes software:.10.5.1.42
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I'm a strong supporter of proper sorting. So much so that I add the year of release to the Sorting > Sort Album field to bypass the alphabetical sorting iTunes seems to prefer.
This is a minor issues in the grand scheme, but if someone can identify what I'm doing wrong, that would be awesome.
In the early part of Prince's career, he released music as Prince (1981, 1982, 1987) and also as Prince and The Revolution (1984, 1985). Looking above to how I sort by year of release, I would prefer that these five albums sort chronologically, but with the correct artist names. On the iPod as of now, they sort as Prince (three albums), Prince and The Revolution (two albums), and Prince (three albums) again. Same three albums, same 34 songs, same art, same everything. I can make them sort correctly in iTunes, but not on the iPod.
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I haD the same issue, and was thoroughly ticked off until doing some research and then trying couple things.
I was able to change the volume limit, that WAS set at half. I adjusted it to max volume, set a lock passcode, and away I drove.
Then, upon hitting "play", I began to get a little ticked off. I realized after a few minutes, I couldn't hear anything playing.
It was so quiet- and I-95 is noisy, with me regretting buying another Apple product, after is wrote not to.
So- after reading through a couple of these threads, I just adjusted the volume limit, and VOILA!
It reverted to 50%.
So, I did a total wipe, factory-reset it as new iPod. I checked setting=>volume limit and it was at the 50% point again. First thing that I did was go to the last selection under settings menu, "reset settings" and noted it doesn't delete sync days, solely sys settings.
I adjusted the volume limit to 100% immediately afterwards, set a new passcode and then.....
Hit play.
It worked. Plays just as loud as my original 3rd Gen iTouch.
So Dylan1219, maybe try that? It's so simple, I am shocked that's how I fixed it. It had been set- and always snapped back to the 50% mark.
So, MAYBE that could solve the problem..? I have hearing loss from rock & roll and concerts, etc...so, thankfully this isn't a bunk product. Just had a bunk setting.
It has stayed at Max level for hours now, and can state it solved it for me.
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Coverflow sorting issues

Bear with me on this one....I have an extensive Itune library mostly sorted in albums listing. Just upgraded to a 80gb Classic which obviously has Coverflow. Noted that when looking through Artist lists some artistes which I knew I had loaded were not there but did appear in Coverflow.....at end of the list after XYZ....established that what had hapened was that when I had originally burnt the CD to Itunes I had the 'compilations box' ticked and these were the albums that had found their way out of sequence....OK. Today I decided that to get it organised I would move the 'said' albums to their respective Artist folders in my Itunes folder and then make sure that Itunes could find the tracks.....done that and then cleaned off ipod, and reloaded...guess what.....no change. Can someone throw some light no this as I was convincved that my 'tinkering' today would sort it out

Did you unset the Compilations flag before/after moving the files around? The organisation of tracks in iTunes & on the iPod is not related to the location of the phyisical files.
*HowTo: Grouping Tracks Into Albums*
Excuse the long post, but hopefully covering all the bases (that I can think of) will help you fix the other issues you are likely to run into as you try to organise your iTunes library.
*Use an album friendly view*
iTunes will let you sort music on many columns, some of which are unlikely to group albums together or put the tracks in their normal order. The most useful order for editing the library is probably *Album by Artist*. If you're not already there, select the list view and click on the column heading for Artist until it reads Album by Artist.
*One cover, too many tracks*
The iPod (and iTunes to a lesser extent) conflates two or more albums with the same title, most obviously with *Greatest Hits*. On the iPod this can result in one album acting as a combination of two or more. Selecting any cover gives all the tracks of all albums with the same title. The workaround for this "Greatest Hits" bug is to give each album a unique title - I tend to go for *Album - Album Artist* as this reads clearly in the iTunes browser. Alternatively you could use the wording as it appears on the cover or append different numbers of spaces for each different album. Somewhat oddly, setting different values for Sort Album doesn't work.
*Album not with others by same artist*
iTunes relies on the Gracenote CDDB database when identifying CD's. This often marks collections or anthologies of an artist's work as a compilation. In iTunes, however, the compilation flag has the logical function of grouping together tracks with the same album name, but different artists on each track, e.g. "Now That's What I Call Metal 666!". These compilations are then all grouped together at the end of cover flow. Most of us however, would expect "Greatest Hits" albums to be listed with the other albums by the same album artist. For albums which are essentially by a single album artist or group it is best to set the appropriate value for the album artist and clear the compilation flag.
*One album, too many covers*
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*One album, still too many covers*
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*Tried that, there are STILL too many covers!*
The Sort Artist, Sort Album & Sort Album Artist fields can be used to override the normal sort order. For example iTunes automatically drops leading articles (a/an/the) so "The Beatles" are arranged under "B" instead of "T". Occasionally different tracks from the same album can have different values in these sort fields which can also break up the grouping. Making the sort columns visible in iTunes can help with spotting & correcting such problems.
*One cover for multi-disc album*
Multi-disc albums are often listed as *Album (CD1)* for CD 1, *Album (CD2)* for CD 2 etc. To display these properly using just one cover, each disc should have the correct *Disc X of Y* values set, and then the entire album should be given the single title Album. Being somewhat obsessive I also renumber the tracks sequentially, working backwards from the last track (so that no two tracks ever have the same number) until I reach disc 1. BTW You can still give the individual discs different artwork should it be relevant so that the correct artwork will be displayed as the album progresses.
*One artist, many names*
With some artists, particularly classical composers, you should be aware of alternative representations of their names. E.g. 2Pac vs. Tupac. The menus will work best if for each artist you standardise on just one form of their name. E.g. make a choice between Mozart, W.A. Mozart or Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, and then apply it consistently. For classical music I tend also to use the Composer as the Artist & Album Artist and either discard the performer details or place these into the Comments field.
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Hello,
I know this issue has been posted several times and without any real solutions. But I'm going to ask again anyway in case the magical hacking gnomes have found a work-around.
I have many sorting issues. There seems to be a lot of kvetching on here already about how Front Row sorts TV shows. But not only do my shows come up backwards within seasons, in some cases seasons themselves are out of order. For example, I have all 3 seasons of 30 Rock (purchased through iTMS) and they go season 1, season 3, season 2. Several other shows with multiple seasons are the same.
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I've considered switching to a different media management program, but what I like about Front Row is its simplicity. I don't really feel like learning a whole new system (let alone getting my wife to buy into that idea). I've got better ways to spend my time. So, it's a trade off, I guess.
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I can't believe we're still banging on about the sorting problems. Apple have seen fit to provide a number of features to allow the user to get iTunes working the way they like, e.g. grouping compilation artists and the use of sort fields. I think you can now even keep compilation artists grouped on the iPod. But why oh why do they then totally ignore this for the AppleTV and Front Row (which look like the same codebase to me)?
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Removing and Reinstalling iTunes, QuickTime, and other software components for Windows XP
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Removing and reinstalling iTunes and other software components for Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8
- Verify that the songs play in iTunes on your computer
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- Reset the iOS device. Nothing will be lost
Reset iOS device: Hold down the On/Off button and the Home button at the same time for at
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- Unsync/delete all music and resync
To delete all music go to Settings>General>Usage>Storage>Music>Tap edit in upper right and then tap the minus sign by All Music
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Go to Settings > General > Reset and tap Reset All Settings.
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- Restore from backup. See:
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- Restore to factory settings/new iOS device.

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903714 wrote:
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