Always Access Denied when choosing Automatically Enrol and Retrieve Certificates from MMC

I am using 2008 R2 Certificate Services to issue certs across multiple forests (although don't let that muddy the waters).
I have a need to issue certificates for use with s/ldap, so I have duplicated the Kerberos cert and removed all Intended Purposes other than Server Authentication and configured appropriate security to allow Domain Controllers/Domain Admins to enrol. 
The certificate also requires CA Manager Approval.
Everything looks good - I am able to enrol for the cert via the MMC, the request goes into pending, and I am then able to issue the cert.  However, when I go back into the MMC on the Server that requested the cert and choose All Tasks | Automatically
Enrol and Retrieve Certificates, I choose the pending cert and then get Access Denied.
On the issuing Server, I get an Event 21 in the App Log:
Active Directory Certificate Services could not process request 8466 due to an error: Access is denied. 0x80070005 (WIN32: 5).  The request was for CN=server.domain.com.
On the Server that requested the cert, I get an Event 9:
Certificate enrollment for Local system was denied by servername\Issuing CA when retrieving the pending request for a SecureLDAPCertificate certificate with request ID 8466.
The strange thing is, if I follow this procedure but using the certsrv website, it works fine and I can install the certificate.
What am I missing?  Or is this one of those random quirks of AD CS?
Any help is appreciated.

Hi,
Thanks for posting in Microsoft TechNet forums.
According to the error messages you provided, this can be a permission issue.
The method of Autoenrollment for a certificate depends on an Active Directory. Considering using Certsrv website was successful, the problem can be that the requester does not have enough permission to access the certificate template in Active Directory
To autoenroll a certificate template, a user or computer must belong to a security group that is assigned the read,enroll,and autoenroll permissions.
Only groups that are assigned these permissions are enabled for autoenrollment.
Could you please answer the following questions for us so that we can troubleshoot the issue more effectively?
Are the issuing CA server and the requesting CA in the same forest/domain?
regards
Ted

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