Always cash discount term 1 for debt memos

Hi Guru,
In the coding for the automatic payment program, if the document is a Customer Invoice, the first condition of the payment term will
always be selected. Therefore discount is always taken even after the discount term is expired. See the following OSS note
31345 F110 - Always cash dsct trm 1 for debt memos
Is there any setting on the system that we can set the program run separately??
Thanks
Linda

Hi,
Please be informed for all customer debit and credit items maximum cash discount is always considered. The reason for this is customer should not be penalized for carrying out the automatic payment after the due date. Thus max cash discount should be granted.
If you want please use manual payment rather than F110. it makes sense to penalize the customer if they pay late, but not for an automated payment.
The customer has no influence over the time of payment. Therefore, one may not be able to hold the customer responsible, if collections are too late for the time period set for the highest cash discount terms. There is no legal or business reason for raising the payment amount because the payment program was run late.
Regards
Ravinagh Boni

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I have setup a payment term for client which is 1% disc if paid within 10 days of invoice date. On running automatic payment program F110, irrespective of no. of days, the payment program generates discount of 1%. (I am using standard payment method C-cheque)
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Note Language: English Version: 4 Validity: Valid Since 20.02.1997
Summary
Symptom
Vendor invoice is paid with cash discount by the payment program
although the cash discount period has expired, the "Always max. cash
discount" flag in configuration Payment program is not set and no cash
discount agreement is noted in the document either.
Additional key words
F110, payment run
Cause and prerequisites
If in the terms of payment only, for example, 10 days 3 % and nothing else has been defined (further fields are not filled at all), the payment program has no instructions as to how the payment is to be made if the first cash discount period has expired. Nevertheless, the payment is made with cash discount terms 1 under these circumstances.
Solution
Choose other terms of payment.
Header Data
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Released on: 19.02.1997 23:00:00
Master Language: German
Priority: Correction with medium priority
Category: Consulting
Primary Component FI-AP Accounts Payable
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Good to know that it is working. When you maintain payment term in vendor master, it SHOULD get defaulted when you perform FB60 for that vendor in that company code. Payment term for vendor cannot be maintained in General Data section, it is in Company code segment. Are you sure you are performing FB60 for the vendor in the company code in which you maintained payment term for that vendor in vendor master record? Please recheck. Also, if you have payment term in Purchasing Organization segment in vendor master record, it would not get defaulted in FB60. Here is what SAP help says on payment term field in vendor master record.
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