Animated Gif - Problem with Frame Delay

Mac OS X 10.5.8
PSE 6.0
I just created an animated gif by following the steps in PSE Help. It says that I should be able to adjust the rate at which the images rotate by changing the Frame Delay measurement but I am unable to change it. In fact I am unable to change anything in the Animation section of the dialog box.
When I check Animation, the options appear to become active (they're no longer greyed out) but I can neither uncheck the Loop option nor change the Frame Delay option. All other sections of the dialog box work fine.
Your help would be most appreciated!
Beth

Unfortunately this is broken in PSE 6 and PSE 8. You can tab into the frame delay box if you start above it someplace on that side of the screen, and it appears to let you change the rate, but your choice doesn't really affect the actual frame rate. The only workaround is to duplicate frame layers that you want to stay onscreen longer (so it will be changing just as fast, but not visibly).

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alex
revbear wrote:
> Greetings
>
> I would appreciate some help.
>
> I am new at creating animated gif's, and am experiencing
a problem with them
> when I try to view them in a browser.
>
> I am working in Fireworks 2004, the following is what I
do.
>
> Create first frame.
> Insert simple arrow.
> Create second frame
> Insert simple arrow with diffrent color
> Third frame same but diffrent image.
>
> Set the Optimize Panel to Animated Gif, transparency set
to No tranparency.
>
> Click on File, Export.
> Type the name of the file in File Name box.
> Select "Frames to Files" option for Save as type option.
>
> In my folder where I saved the files there are now three
gif files.
>
> When I open the file into the following browsers IE 7,
6.0 or Firefox it
> remains as a static image in the browser with no
animation, the same is for
> viewing it in Window Explorer Preview Pane.
>
> In Fireworks however the animation plays perfectly.
>
> I would really appreciate it if someone could tell me
what I am doing wrong or
> why they created animated gifs are not playing in the
browser.
>
> Regards
> Dave
>
>

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