Another one of those battery problems...so scared

Hey all,
I know that many people are posting battery problems and I think I have a similar one...I just don't know if apple will listen to me. My 15" mbp shuts down at around 45% charge for no reason. I applied the update that apple provided but to no avail.
Unfortunately, here are my stats:
Battery Installed: Yes
First low level warning: No
Full Charge Capacity (mAh): 3824
Remaining Capacity (mAh): 3824
Amperage (mA): 239
Voltage (mV): 12604
Cycle Count: 529
It seems i have decent capacity but the cycle count indicates that the battery is old (about 13 months). So what do you guys think? Do I have a chance of getting a free replacement with the protection plan? If there is a possibility, what tactic should I use-you know- call apple, mac genius, what should I tell them. The problem has been bothering me for a while and it seems to be getting worse.
If I probably won't get the replacement, can someone recommed some good alternatives you found to the default batteries, preferably those with a greater capacity/battery life. Keep in mind, I'm a college student so any money I can save would mean a good month's worth of food that isn't crackers and ramen.
thanks,
any reply would be greatly appreciated.

Unfortunately, I really doubt Apple will give you a free replacement battery. Apple specifies that a battery should maintain 80% of it's original full charge capacity for 300 cycles. As you point out, you have 529 cycles on your battery - it's had a good life! But Apple will tell you (correctly) that batteries do wear out, and that's what is happening to yours.
So, you either need to live with the poor run time that comes with an elderly battery, or purchase a new one. It's just one of the extra costs of ownership, like buying gas for your car.
If you check on Google, there may be slightly less expensive 3rd party batteries out there. If you go that route, given the problems many people have had with these batteries (which Apple has acknowledged), be sure you trust the vendors warranty. Else, you may be better off just buying direct from Apple.
Wish I had better news, but I hope this at least sets your mind at ease a bit...(except for the $ part, of course...).

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+I purchased My Power-Adapter from Ebay. It looked legit and everything and it provides the iBook with power pretty well. Yet I stumbled across something. It says on the Power Adapter that it is a 65(watt) Power Adapter. But when I check in the System Profiler, This is what it reads:+
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+Now why would the Power Adapter say 65(watts) but when I check the stats on my iBook it receives 45(watts). I have checked all the stats of these iBooks and I know that they need 65(watts) to function properly. Some people say 45w will power an iBook fine but I think this is why the battery won't charge. The power Adapter I bough online clearly stated that it will work correctly on my model and it Even says 65w on the adapter.+
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osnavi, nah u just got it wrong. and no i didn't do it all in that order. i've been working on it since xmas ... got a new mob just a few days ago for it.
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When you were asked if you connected the 4 square Pin connector ( CPU needs that for get power )you said something about the pins on the botom of the CPU. ????
yes it's connected. i can connect it that way (so the cpu gets power) or my case comes with a connector just for the cpu. it detects temp and if the fan is running. if the fan doesn't run, then the digital display shows a non spinning fan and an alarm will sound so i know the fan on the heatsink isn't spinning. I tried both ways, thinking maybe the mob doesn't like my heatsink fan hooked up to my case that way. so, yes the 4 pin was connected.
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but think you must not do things you don't know why you are doing them.
If i don't know what i'm doing then i call my brother in law, who is a pc technician, or get help online before i do something. I have built 2 pc's previously with no probs and solved many pc hardware issues on my own. I'm not a total n00b ... hehe this one has got me stumped, so now i'm asking for more ideas to try.
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looks that you smeared all CPU surface with thermal grease and when seated HSF over it, grease poured out !!! "...
no, some was left when i cleaned it off the cpu from swapping them. i did not use very much compound at all. i used a t-shirt to clean it as it's non lint, doing so, a bit of the t-shirt touched the cpu while i was cleaning it...where it had some compound on it (t-shirt). it's not alot...lol but i know how hardware is funky at times, i thought well gee tried everything else maybe that's it...one little spec on the cpu stopping it from booting. however, i cleaned it so that there was no sign of any compound. still doesn't work. nothing happens.
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So, then i set jumpers to J10 1-2 and J11 open...still nothing. changed jumpers around to every pattern u can think of..." What for ? Seems that you have move and change every Mobo part without knowing, only to see if PC started. Hope you haven't killed all of them. Would you mind to take all parts appart and start again in order ? (Better out of case ) and please tell us what Power source are you using and how much ampères it gives to 3.3v. 5v. and 12v. rails. (It is printed on PSU side)
what for? cause nothing else worked. what do u expect me to do when default settings don't work and nothing i read online in tech support works either? shall i just give up? think not i think you assume that i just started changing all jumpers off the bat...no thats not what i did. i did this when there was nothing else to try. i don't know the exact order on how i set them all up, i'm just saying i tried all ways of setting the jumpers and nothing so far has worked. i know where default settings are, yes i've put everything back, cleared cmos, took out the battery, and started from scratch. i still get the same results.
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Voltage 115/230
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but gee thx for making me feel better osnavi

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float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
float: left;
width: 80em;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
float: none;
width: 80em;
margin-left:auto;
margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
clear:both;
display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
float: left;
width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
margin: 0; /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
    For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
    or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
    Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
padding: 0px 24px 0px 0px;
background-color:#333333;
border-width:1px;
border-color: #cccccc #ffffff #cccccc #999999;
border-style: none none none solid;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
border-style: none none none solid;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
text-align:center;
line-height:1.4em;
color:#cccccc;
background-color:#333333;
padding: 6px 15px 6px 39px;
width: 10em;
width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
font-family: "Trebuchet MS", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: normal;
font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal;
background-color:#666666;
padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
border-width:1px;
border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
/* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
padding-top: 6px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
border-style: solid solid solid solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
padding-bottom: 6px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
text-align:left;
line-height:1em;
background-color:#666666;
color:#cccccc;
padding: 6px 12px 6px 5px;
width: 7em;
width:auto;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
background-color: #333333;
border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-color: #333333; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-color: #333333;
color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
background-color: #666666;
border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-color: #666666;
color: #ffffff;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
background-color:#333;
min-width:100%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than the parent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
border-color: #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff;
border-width:0px;
border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
top: 100%; /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
     and your personal taste.
     0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of the MenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
     on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
     menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
     the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
top: 0px;
left:100%;
min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
background-color: #ffffff;
min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
top: 0px; /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
    that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
    vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
    negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
    to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element for selection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu" (MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in a selector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6 ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets the specificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs as significant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lot of these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes for modern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these, as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js script.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser is Internet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditional comments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
background-color: #333333; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
background-color: #666666; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
SpryMenuBasic.css
/* SpryMenuBasic.css - version 0.5 - Spry Pre-Release 1.7 */
/* Copyright (c) 2010. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
/* This is the css for a basic Spry 2 MenuBar.
* The first section is basic layout, and should in general not need to be modified.
* The final section of this file specifies images to use for arrows for the menu. These
* are either down or right-pointing as required by horizonatal or vertical layouts. You
* can either replace the referenced images with your own, or you can modify these rules to
* point to your won images.
* These rules are supplemented by those specified in the OAM file for inclusion in the html document,
* or alternatively, the file SpryMenuBarBasicSkin.css which is included with this widget. */
/* Resets for ul and li in menus */
.MenuBar .MenuBarView, .MenuBar .SubMenuView {
display:block;
list-style:none;
margin:0;
padding:0;
/*** Layout Rules for Basic Menu ***/
/* Top Level MenuBar
* Because we float the MenuItemContainers in the MenuBar, we have to make sure the menubar wrapper expands to hold them all.
* The simplest way is to float the widget wrapper
.MenuBar { /* overridden by .MenuBarVertical version of this rule */
float:left;
width:100%;
.MenuBarVertical {
float:left; /* Used to make menubar shirink to fit contents */
width:auto;
/* SubMenus */
.MenuBar .SubMenu {
display:block;
position:absolute;
top:0;
left:-10000px; /* By default, all non-visible submenus are hidden by moving way to the west */
padding:0;
/* First level of submenus - pulls down from horizontal menubar, right from vertical */
.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible{ /* overridden by .MenuBarVertical version of this rule */
top:100%;
left:0px;
.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
top:0px;
left:100%;
/* All submenus below level 1. All pullout to the right */
.MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenuVisible {
display:block;
position:absolute;
top:0px;
left:100%;
/* MenuItems, MenuItemLabels, and MenuItemContainers */
.MenuBar .MenuItem {
display:block;
text-decoration:none;
.MenuBar .MenuItemLabel {
display:block;
.MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
position:relative;
white-space:nowrap;
float:left; /* overridden by .MenuBarVertical version of this rule */
display:block;
margin:0;
padding:0;
.MenuBarVertical .MenuItemContainer {
float:none;
.MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemContainer {
float:none;
/* Layout Rules needed by IE6 - excluded from other browsers */
.SpryIsIE6 .SubMenu .SubMenu {
width:100px;
height:1%;
.SpryIsIE6 .MenuBar .SubMenuVisible .SubMenuVisible {
width:auto;
/* End Layout section */
* Arrows - This section specifies arrow images for a submenu dropdowns in Basic SpryMenu.
.MenuBar .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:none;
/* For all arrows used here, we depend upon the image to push itself away from right edge, or the user can add right padding to the MenuItem */
.MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuDownGrey.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBar .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuDownWhite.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBarVertical .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBarVertical .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
/* IE6 rules for Arrows */
.SpryIsIE6 .MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuDown.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.SpryIsIE6 .MenuBarVertical .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.SpryIsIE6 .MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;

I love your subject line
Spry Menu 2.0 issues in IE7..   yes another one!
It is us as designers/developers that need to create websites for all current browsers. No sense in blaming the browsers, although in this case we could blame Spry Menu 2.0.
Problem with that is that Spry Menu 2.0 has been successfully tested in all modern browsers.
This leaves us with just one possibility, the designer/developer has erred somewhere along the line. After having checked the support files (JS and CSS) and looked at the markup, we now go to the constructor and see the following
var MenuBar = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar2("#MenuBar", {
    widgetID: "MenuBar",
    widgetClass: "MenuBar MenuBarLeftShrink",
    insertMenuBarBreak: true,
A comma after the last value.
I also am wondering why there are two css pages for the menu bar.??
One is the standard CSS for the menubar and under normal circumstances, should not be touched; the other is for the convenience of the designer/developer so that he/she can tweak the menubar to suit. If you wish, you can combine both. In all cases, keep in mind that the CSS for the standard (basic) menubar should come first, so that the other CSS can override the first.
This needs to be corrected in your document
Gramps

Macbook Battery Problem

Hi all, this is my first post, but something weird happened to my macbook that I have to share with you.
Ok, my Macbook Core Duo 2.0GHz (1st generation) have had no problem during its first and half year. Then I left the notebook sitting at home for one month as I was away on business. Came back, the machine won't start, used AC adaptor and showed the battery not charging, "x" and everything. My warranty expired, so I bought a new battery. Once I got that, it worked fine for almost 7 months.
Another business trip left my macbook for 1 month, I came back, the battery is dead again!!! So I went to apple support and bought another new battery. This time I installed it at home, and it doesn't charge what-so-ever. I tried everything from SMU reset, PMU reset, P-RAM reset. NOTHING WORKED.
So I took a friend's macbook battery to try, and it worked! I can charge that battery with my macbook, and my battery won't charge on his macbook. So scientifically I thought its the battery defect. I went to Apple Care and they say they will replace it for me, but think that it should be my macbook's problem. Must be the Logic Board, I explained why I disagree, and that the battery came with only one LED blinking when I got home to charge, the current was already too low to charge.
Anyways, I was able to buy a second-hand battery really cheap but with limited life-span and use it until my replacement battery returns. Everything seem fine and I can charge it up to 100% although it will only last me 50-mins, still not bad, right?
I was reluctant to completely drain this battery now since I am afraid it will drop to zero and won't recharge like the other ones.
I am using Boot Camp, and Vista as well as OS X. Suddenly today, two days after I bought the 2nd hand battery, I was using Vista to show my friend the battery problem is fixed. But suddenly out of nowhere the battery dropped from 95% charged to 0% in seconds. It shuts down automatically, and the battery was flashing one LED indicating it's dying.
I started back in Mac OS X and found the charger able to recharge, but it fixed at 0% for 20 minutes. I thought I am screwed and went out for a smoke. I came back to see the battery charging back to 5% and then slowly to 10%, and 20%, suddenly it went back to 85% in seconds, and then 100%. I try to unplug it and it seemed fine. I left it on without the adapter for 20 minutes, the battery drain normally, to 70% (it's fine considering the battery was 2nd hand) My friend thought I should try to switch back to Vista to see if the same thing will occur. So I did, and before the Vista screen came up, the macbook blacked out. I checked the battery indicator and it's flashing one LED again!!!
So I switched back to Mac side and re-do the charging, this time it took longer to get back to +90%, I thought this is normal, 'cause I did use the battery longer on the Mac side before switching to Vista for the test.
I thought to myself, why Vista drained my battery, and then I remember the first battery that died on me was about the time I switched the PC side to Vista. Prior to that, the PC side was using XP. The second time it died it was in Vista as well. I also remember I wanted to reduce the size of my PC partition, so I trimmed off unnecessary features like hibernation by (Powercfg -h off). It saved 2G in size but it may be causing some problem to the charging circuit for the Mac-hardware??? Don't know for sure.
So I erased my Vista partition, and re-installed XP. Since then I tried both sides without adaptor, usually for 10-minutes or less, and no sudden dropped to 0% occurred since.
Everything else is working fine with my macbook, except the power features. Right now at least I can charge the battery, but I am always worried about when or IF the battery will dropped off and kill itself.
I am waiting for the replacement battery to return from APPLE, and hopefully when it returns, my Macbook will be able to recognize the DEFAULT low-charge of a new battery. I'm still not sure if my macbook is defective, and if it did killed the first battery replacement they gave me a few days ago. If it did kill a decent battery, will it kill this new replacement as well??
I know for a fact that the reason why the machine won't charge the battery is because the current of the battery has become too low for the machine to be able to charge it. If the current becomes lower, the "X" will occur suggesting that the machine doesn't even recognize it's a battery. But what I want to know is what caused the battery to drop to such a low current if I turned off the macbook during storage.
Sorry for the length of this post, but I have to be clear on all the details if I want help, I suppose. Right now my question is (1) Why is this occuring?? (2) Am I right in assuming that by removing Vista with XP, the problem will not repeat?? (3) Is it likely for any new or 2nd hand functioning battery to drop to the state of the other battery any time soon?? (4) Am I doing proper care for my Macbook, and what should I do in the future to avoid the same problem from occuring??

gpotts,
Thanks again, here's my battery profile: (keep in mind this is the 2nd hand battery I am profiling) BTW, something happened when I was doing this message, I left the notebook on for about 20 minutes, it dropped from +90% to 48%, macbook prompted me that the battery is running low. I plugged the adaptor and it went back to +95% within minutes...
Good thing is, I haven't seen the sudden drop to 0% ever since I removed Vista, and also I am able to charge my battery everytime I try now, no more "NOT CHARGING" or "X" indication.
Any clues??? Thanks in advance.
Battery Information:
Model Information:
Serial Number: DP-ASMB013-34cf-** <Edited by Moderator>
Manufacturer: DP
Device name: ASMB013
Pack Lot Code: 0001
PCB Lot Code: 0000
Firmware Version: 0102
Hardware Revision: 0300
Cell Revision: 0100
Charge Information:
Charge remaining (mAh): 1533
Fully charged: No
Charging: Yes
Full charge capacity (mAh): 1597
Health Information:
Cycle count: 349
Condition: Good
Battery Installed: Yes
Amperage (mA): 466
Voltage (mV): 12597
System Power Settings:
AC Power:
System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 60
Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 60
Automatic Restart On Power Loss: No
Wake On AC Change: No
Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
Wake On LAN: Yes
Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes
Battery Power:
System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 2
Wake On AC Change: No
Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes
Reduce Brightness: Yes
Hardware Configuration:
UPS Installed: No
AC Charger Information:
Connected: Yes
Charging: Yes

Another one of those battery problems...so scared

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