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Not sure whether this has happened due to the u/g to 3.1, but while still running 3.0.3 I exported a set of photos to Facebook.
By default, the Caption shown in FB is the filename (version name).
*In FB* I edited the captions but now Aperture is using those captions as the version names of the original photos (i.e. in the Projects, not just in the Facebook albums).
This is not good, since I now have several photos with the same version name!!!!
Is the the expected behaviour? I can't find a pref that affects it.
Anyone else seen this?

David Riecks has an article on the issues with Aperture and IPTC metadata over at:
http://digitalassetmanagementnews.org/taxonomy-metadata/aperture-3-removes-iptc- extension-and-plus-embedded-metadata/
and
http://www.controlledvocabulary.com/imagedatabases/aperture3.html
It appears that you are correct in your assertion that Apple (Aperture) does not adhere to the IPTC standard for image metadata. Ad Mr. Riecks points out, this should be of major concern for anyone using Aperture as their image warehouse and then exporting their images out to anyone who does adhere to the IPTC standard as some of your most important data (inclusive of location, identification, rights use, and copyright - aka IPTC Core in Aperture) are essentially lost.
Very disappointing indeed! Failure to adhere to industry standards are the primary reason I stopped using Windows products and made the migration to Apple.
Hopefully Aperture will address this in coming releases to include the extraction of Faces data into the IPTC 1.1 Extension Description structure "Person Shown" with an option to extract the Faces data into the IPTC1.1 Extension Models structure "Model Shown" fields.

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