Apple's Discussion Forums: an important technical resource

There have been ongoing discussions within Apple regarding whether or not to continue supporting these discussion forums, specifically, the issue of continuing to employ live humans to monitor and moderate them. It seems to me that it would not be a significant drain on Apple Computer Inc.'s resources to employ 1-2 persons to comb this (very large) discussions site for significant unresolved issues having broad relevance to the Mac user community. Said issues could then be routed either to a small, forums-dedicated team of Apple engineers, or distributed to the larger second-tier support group such that each tech rep would only have to handle a few responses per week (or month, depending on the size of the available employee pool). The net benefits to Apple -- in terms of reduced number of tech support calls, a more-empowered, self-sufficient, and satisfied user base, and increased goodwill toward the company -- would, in my estimation, more than repay the salaries and efforts required to keep these discussion forums running efficiently and effectively. I believe Apple is savvy enough and responsible enough to know this; they have probably done the calculus. Perhaps, then, our most important task is to let the parent firm know that we use and value this resource. Hopefully, Apple managers will note and make the right decisions.

Yes ... but why pay for it when they have a very good base of people that respond to postings? ... actually let me ask a better question.... if you were apple why would you bother to tell everyone the screen name of the moderator ... don't you think they'd get absolutely bombarded with email?
Maybe I'm a moderator ...

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  • Apple's Discussion Forums: an important technical support resource

    There have been ongoing discussions within Apple regarding whether or not to continue supporting these discussion forums, specifically, the issue of continuing to employ live humans to monitor and moderate them. It seems to me that it would not be a significant drain on Apple Computer Inc.'s resources to employ 1-2 persons to comb this (very large) discussions site for significant unresolved issues having broad relevance to the Mac user community. Said issues could then be routed either to a small, forums-dedicated team of Apple engineers, or distributed to the larger second-tier support group such that each tech rep would only have to handle a few responses per week (or month, depending on the size of the available employee pool). The net benefits to Apple -- in terms of reduced number of tech support calls, a more-empowered, self-sufficient, and satisfied user base, and increased goodwill toward the company -- would, in my estimation, more than repay the salaries and efforts required to keep these discussion forums running efficiently and effectively. I believe Apple is savvy enough and responsible enough to know this; they have probably done the calculus. Perhaps, then, our most important task is to let the parent firm know that we use and value this resource. Hopefully, Apple managers will note and make the right decisions.

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  • Apple's Discussion Forums: an important tech support resource

    There have been ongoing discussions within Apple regarding whether or not to continue supporting these discussion forums, specifically, the issue of continuing to employ live humans to monitor and moderate them. It seems to me that it would not be a significant drain on Apple Computer Inc.'s resources to employ 1-2 persons to comb this (very large) discussions site for significant unresolved issues having broad relevance to the Mac user community. Said issues could then be routed either to a small, forums-dedicated team of Apple engineers, or distributed to the larger second-tier support group such that each tech rep would only have to handle a few responses per week (or month, depending on the size of the available employee pool). The net benefits to Apple -- in terms of reduced number of tech support calls, a more-empowered, self-sufficient, and satisfied user base, and increased goodwill toward the company -- would, in my estimation, more than repay the salaries and efforts required to keep these discussion forums running efficiently and effectively. I believe Apple is savvy enough and responsible enough to know this; they have probably done the calculus. Perhaps, then, our most important task is to let the parent firm know that we use and value this resource. Hopefully, Apple managers will note and make the right decisions.

    jinxter,
    You may wish to post your topic in the Feedback About Discussions forum found at:
    http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1076&start=0
    That forum specifically states:
    "This Feedback about the Discussions forum is intended for questions about how to use Apple Discussions and for general constructive feedback about how the Discussions system is operating or how it may be improved."
    hope that helps some,
    littleshoulders [:-)
    edit: I see that you already have a topic in the Feedback/Discussions forum. I'm not sure of the purpose of your topic here?

  • Apple Discussion Forums: an important tech support resource

    There have been ongoing discussions within Apple regarding whether or not to continue supporting these discussion forums, specifically, the issue of continuing to employ live humans to monitor and moderate them. It seems to me that it would not be a significant drain on Apple Computer Inc.'s resources to employ 1-2 persons to comb this (very large) discussions site for significant unresolved issues having broad relevance to the Mac user community. Said issues could then be routed either to a small, forums-dedicated team of Apple engineers, or distributed to the larger second-tier support group such that each tech rep would only have to handle a few responses per week (or month, depending on the size of the available employee pool). The net benefits to Apple -- in terms of reduced number of tech support calls, a more-empowered, self-sufficient, and satisfied user base, and increased goodwill toward the company -- would, in my estimation, more than repay the salaries and efforts required to keep these discussion forums running efficiently and effectively. I believe Apple is savvy enough and responsible enough to know this; they have probably done the calculus. Perhaps, then, our most important task is to let the parent firm know that we use and value this resource. Hopefully, Apple managers will note and make the right decisions.

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  • What date did Apple's discussion forums begin?

    Does anyone know when the Apple discussion forums started?
    I ask this in in relation to Apple being aware (through these forums) of consumer issues /problems / suggestions and then taking the information onboard in development of their products. In my mind the users of apple computers have fed back into the design and updating of hardware/software over the years and the forums (including the criticism they sometimes contain) have facilitated Apple to respond to user needs.
    Thanks.

    sonofapup wrote:
    I ask this in in relation to Apple being aware (through these forums) of consumer issues /problems / suggestions and then taking the information onboard in development of their products.
    Apple folks may peek in here from time to time, but this is not where they get much, if any, such info. The only place I've ever seen an Apple employee post is in this one forum, about how the forums work. Otherwise, it's user-to-user.
    I've asked a couple of Apple Product Engineers (for Time Machine) if they ever look in the forums for problems, and was told no. If you follow many threads here, especially the ones with lots of posts that might look like a fairly general problem, you'll usually find different problems, different hardware and software, all sorts of digressions, etc., and rarely enough specifics for anybody to figure out what's actually going on. It just wouldn't be very productive. They use actual problems reported to AppleCare, the bugreport site, or the feedback site, and no doubt do various sorts of market research, surveys, etc.
    In addition, they do beta testing with experienced users who provide feedback for changes and enhancements, as well as problem reports.

  • Why isn't there an Apple Support/Discussions Forum app?

    I think this would be very useful.

    Just FYI, the forum software wasn't developed by Apple. It's a commercial package from Jive Software, and this rather old version of the software, to the best of my knowledge, did not have a "mobile" version. Apple is working on a new "Communities" which will use different forum software, and at that time it's possible that there might be a mobile version. We'll have to wait and see, though, until such time as Apple is ready to say more.
    Regards.

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    yea.. sorry, my post maybe confusing...
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  • Strange Problem Logging Into Discussions Forums

    Lately, I have had trouble logging in to Apple's Discussion Forums. Here's a typical experience:
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    jdgalt1 wrote:
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    Doesn't seem to be a issue of the Apple.com servers being overloaded, as I can fail to manage a log on with the iBook and easily do so with the Windows machine within seconds of switching machines.
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    IBook 900 mHz   Mac OS X (10.4.5)   640 MB RAM, 80 GB Removable Fireware Drive

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    Is it a Linksys Modem?
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    Returned when a client or server connection is severed in the middle of an in-progress load.
    Available in Mac OS X v10.3 and later.
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    Hi, I have some technique questions that no one in this forum seems to know. Do you know any discussion forum where Apply engineer participate and answer questions?
    Thank you very much.
    fm

    http://devforums.apple.com ... unfortunately, it's down ... again. When it's up, Apple folk post to it, but it's usually not up for long before some "serious error" happens sigh.
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    I'm attempting to import the Discussion Forum Packaged Application into a 3.2.0.00.27 instance of APEX running on Oracle 10g XE (Windows XP). When I attempt to import the workspace, I am presented with the following error message:
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  • Cannot log in to Apple discussion forum

    Hello,
    I can't log in to apple discussion forum with safari on my MacBook Pro. With my iPod touch I haven't any problems. Why is that so? What can I do?
    have you got a solution for me??
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    What should i do there
    As mentioned above:
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  • Funny - Safari won't let me log in Apple Discussions forums.

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  • Why did apple screw up the discussion forum format?

    Why did apple screw up the discussion forum format?

    Hi,
    Apple in this case has to rely on what software is out there that can handle the amount of Traffic that these boards get.
    This is from the Brows Option the selecting People in the box
    Note the Number
    At the Launch of the new software this was at just over 2,250,000 and has now topped 2,300,000
    That is well over 50,000 people joining in just 2 weeks.
    Jive are the only real players in this market.
    To some extent the software is a one size fits all, much like the previous software was.
    We got used to the look and the Folder type layout of the Previous software.
    We ignored the foibles of where things were placed.
    Things are somewhat double edged in my view.
    I post mostly about iChat.
    I don't like that the Leopard and Snow Leopard forums that were are now "Refine the List"/Tag led searching to read specific threads. (not to mention that returning to "Dicussions" loses the "refinement").
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    As a regular poster I use a couple of Boiler plate things for a welcome message and my Signature.
    Some were made with TextExpander and included the HTML code to sttyle things slightly.
    These no longer work without going to the HTML editor.
    Posting link used to use the BBCodeXtra add-on to Firefox but this action is now included in the Regular and Advanced Editor. 
    That means I equipped myself and used things to get around shortcomings of the old software which is some cases I either don't need or need to learn the new way.
    I am sure the Style will morph as we go along.
    Of course some of this relies on what exactly you mean by:-
    the discussion forum format
    7:55 PM      Saturday; May 7, 2011
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    , Mac OS X (10.6.7),
    "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

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