Appropriate "master" format for HDV projects

If you have a typical HDV project in Premiere and you'd like to give your client a "high quality master" of the finished project, for them to recode at their leisure, what's the most appropriate output CODEC to use, where file size isn't an issue (very short projects like TVC's, or longer projects delivering on hard drive)?
Matthew P

This will probably get moved over to the appropriate forum, since this isn't about CS5, but...
Lagarith or Ut Video Codec
Since you're using CS3, you need the 32-bit version of either of those.
For uncompressed, your options would be Microsoft AVI with None as the codec, or QuickTime with None as the codec. Both are playable (well, they can be opened, but realtime playback may not be feasible) on either a PC or Mac.
I would not suggest Animation for live video; it's better used for (surprise) animation or any type of motion graphics that has large, even fields of color, and not the various gradations usually associated with live video.
Pixel aspect ratio and frame size will vary based on the end application, but my typical course of action is to export with square pixels at whatever dimensions are full raster for the particular format you're using--for example, 1920x1080 or 1280x720. Anamorphic aspect ratios (like HDV 1080i) are usually fine, however; it just involves the end recipient realizing that the aspect ratio needs to be properly interpreted.

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I have Video camera movies that are HD format.. I am doing editing work on them using Final Cut Pro, but using DV PAL format for the projects I am editing. When I then tried to copy my work done in FCP Project that's originally DV PAL , into a new FCP Pro

I have Video camera movies that are HD format.. I am doing editing work on them using Final Cut Pro, but using DV PAL format for the projects I am editing. When I then tried to copy my work done in FCP Project that's originally DV PAL , into a new FCP Project that is HD, and tried reconnect media with original HD movies (video), the sequence project got distorted for all the text, shapes used and all.. everything changed its orientation and scale.. Is there a way by which I can preserve my work done on DV PAL and switch it preserving its proportions, scale and orientation, but on a HD project sequence?? Appreciate your help and advice..

Yes. A couple of ways that might work.
First Way
What you need to do is load one of your hd clips in the viewer and edit into a new HD sequence. Does it display correctionly?
OK, select the clip in the hd timeline and copy (command-c). Now go to the HD sequence with the material that's distorted. Select all (command-a) and paste attributes (option-v) and choose basic motion and distort. That should maek things work. What won't work is anything that you've adjusted as far as basic motion or distort in your PAL sequence. That I'm pretty sure you'll have to redo.
Second Way.
Choose your original PAL sequence and do a Media Manage changing the sequence preset to the appropriate HD paramenters with the media offline. You then should be able to reconnect these clips with your original HD media.

Help with Format for DVD Project

I have been using FCP to create video with two tracks of audio (one instrumental & one vocal).
I want to learn about format for output to DVD. I have exported as QuickTime movie and stereo downmix so that I have one track of audio in DVDSP and when it plays on 2 speakers I have the two channels of audio - one on instrumental, one vocal. Cool. To get that I must use Custom Settings as I learned from another thread posted here last week or so.
Question #1:
+What format do I use when I enter that custom setting window for the Aspect Ratio?+ I think it should be 4:3, yes?
Question #2:
Maybe I should be using Compressor. If yes - +how do I get those 2 tracks in FCP to get into that stereo downmix format? How do I get the 2 separate audio files in to compressor and output to DVDSP?+
If in that process I end up with 1 video file and 2 audio files and import those assets into DVDSP, +Will I be able to have one audio track that has 2 channels? or will I be able to have 2 audio tracks that play on two different speakers?+
I seem to be able to get the results I want most of the time, but I am basically phutzing around and somehow God honors it - I wish I knew more what I was doing.

smidi wrote:
Question #1:
+What format do I use when I enter that custom setting window for the Aspect Ratio?+ I think it should be 4:3, yes?
Depends on the source material, if it is 4:3 then 4:3 would be proper if it is 16:9 (HDV or anamorphic would in all likelihood be the ones you are using (?) then 16:9 would be the aspect ratio
Question #2:
Maybe I should be using Compressor. If yes - +how do I get those 2 tracks in FCP to get into that stereo downmix format? How do I get the 2 separate audio files in to compressor and output to DVDSP?+
In older version of AC3 encoder (a.Pack) you could use two seperate files in and assign left right
To export each side individually you should mute one audio track then export the other then reverse to get the other file (also look at page IV-147, IV-151 of the Final Cut Pro Manual - Chapter is called Exporting Audio for Mixing in case we looking at different versions)
But if you bring the two audio files into DVD SP like that you will hear only one audio track (in DVD SP) at a time.
If you take a look at Chapter 7 Page 96, Page 100 of the PDF (at least in the PDF I just popped up, not sure which Compressor you are running, it is in the section Creating Dolby Digital Professional Files) it describes the encoding selections a bit more.
Are you running into an issue? Sounds like you are not (which is good )

What other file format for IDVD project?

hi I have edited hd video files which are Quicktime movies in m-peg2 1920x1080. The files currently put me over the size limit to be able to burn a DVD. I don't want to leave any of the files of of the DVD. My question is what's the next best conversion format I should use so that they all can fit onto my DVD. in other words I want to convert to a smaller size using compressor to fit the idvd project.
Thanks
RD

I advice you to use Brorsoft Video to iDVD Converter.
With it, you can convert video to the best format for burning to iDVD on Mac OS X. iDVD only supports video or image files supported by QuickTime. You can use the tool to convert video to QuickTime MOV file.
Trick:
For best results, in the QuickTime export settings of your video editing application, choose NTSC-DV with a frame rate of 29.97 or PAL-DV with a frame rate of 25. Choose No Compression for audio, and set the sample rate to 48 kilohertz.
Tips:
1. You can drag a QuickTime movie file to the audio well in the Menu Info window or in the slideshow editor. iDVD uses the first audio track in the file as a soundtrack for the menu that is open or for the slideshow and ignores the video. For more information, see Related Topics below.
2. If you share an iMovie HD project as a QuickTime movie using the Full Quality option, iMovie HD doesn’t include chapter markers in the QuickTime movie.

Ideal export format for hdv source movie edited in motion

Until recently, pretty much all completed projects I've done have been exported to NTSC-DV, but now I'm editing in HDV.
My most recent project was done with 1920X1080 HDV source footage editing on a 1280X720 canvas in Motion.
I like to export a web version and then a version of the project for posterity -- ie. the final best-quality (within reasonable final size) version of the movie that I can keep on hand for future uses as yet unknown.
So, my question then is: what's a good final format to export to? Is there any reason to export to HDV just because I've started with HDV?
Thanks.

I use h.264 for a review copy. It will give you a much smaller file size. I think Pro Res is intended to be used as a lossless format to take footage between applications, correct me if I'm wrong. If all you need is a copy to show people, h.264 can give you excellent quality (it's used on Blu-ray discs).

Most compatible format for HDV export to dvd

Hi
I just got a new HDV camera (canon XH-A1) and have shot a project in HDV. I am now mastering it to dvd (using IDvd) and need to know the best format to use for compatibility across tv's (ie SD and widescreen)
I captured as HDV, made a DV PAL sequence. I have found on a friend's SD tv, the footage is clipped, not showing edges, eg the titles (even though in title safe area) and on a friends HDV TV, all the footage appears, the looks stretched?
What is the best format to export my HDV footage, so it is compatible with the widest number of tvs (ie HD ready and older SD tv's)?
regards
Mark

iDVD is not the ideal tool to be doing this with, DVD Studio Pro is better equipped to deal with it, however, if you want to use iDVD, you have to use a more recent version that knows how to handle wide screen (it involves setting a flag so the DVD player knows to letterbox or display widescreen depending on the capability of the tv).
You also need to tell either iDVD or DVDSP that the material is anamorphic widescreen 16:9 material...
Patrick

What is the best format for HDV video for a computer playback

Hello guys,
I have made a very nice HDV video and after the frustration and awful results with compression for
SD DVD, I have decided just to export that video as a file, put that file on DVD, so people can just pop that DVD into their computers, copy that file on their HD and play it. (so there is no compression needed for over internet data transfer, Bit Rates for space, etc). The video is
HDV 1080i 60. If I export it from FCP as a QT Movie the quality is beautiful. But when being watched on the computer screen, there are those interlace lines visible, when any faster motion in the video occurs. So I am wondering, what would be the best export option in order to provide best qualities for computer playback. Would it be some of those QT progressive modes, like 1080 p24? Or any other?
Thank you for your help.
Cheers,
K.

Chris Walsh1 wrote:
Why are you using FCP 6.02? Why didn't you do the update to 6.04?? I did, and I am having tons of issues
That is pretty much the reason. It is fresh out the gate and so far untested. I am not an early adopter of any new technology (soft or hardware wise). I like to wait it out and see what other peoples' experience is. A bit of a prickish way to put it is: "In Chess, the pawns go first." (I'm a big Chess nerd -- I have Chess analogies for just about everything).
But even if the latest FCP, OS X and QT versions were humming along without any reported issues by the "power users" (by that I mean people who are editing on their systems 40+ hours a week in a professional capacity) I still wouldn't have upgraded because I am in the middle of three projects.
Well, that isn't entirely the truth. I started all three projects on a PowerMac G4 running OS X 10.4.11 and FCP 5.1.4. In the midst of this I started an across-the-board upgrade -- new computer, monitor, OS and FCS. But what I did (am still doing) is migrating from one to another and testing the performance on the new one before committing. In doing my research before hand, I see that the magic cocktail for stability appears to be OS X 10.5.2, FCP 6.0.2 and QT 7.4.5 so I built my new MacPro to that and stayed there. I have migrated all my current projects to the new system and have been putting the new setup to the test and is passing at every turn, so I feel confident I can work on this new system and will be retiring the PowerMac soon, but throughout this process I always had my stable G4 setup available so I wouldn't risk losing any work.
Might the reason the video you compressed "looked great" be because you didn't do the update?
Maybe, but I can't say with any certainty.
In the old compressor, I had no problems (in earlier versions of my project) compressing the video. It always looked GREAT! In 3.03, I get weird issues that don't make sense to me at all.
In the older version of compressor, this never happened. Even on this project.
Then I would think the update is the likely culprit.
Here is what I would like to try as my final attempt. I just bought yet ANOTHER computer. A Mac Pro/Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeo. I'd like to try to load Final Cut Studio on this machine, but where should I stop my upgrading? What is good stable working system for everyone??
OS X 10.5.2, FCP 6.0.2 and QT 7.4.5 is working great for me, and it appears for others here as well. I am running a new octo-2.8GHz Mac Pro.

Best format for new project.

I suspect the information I am seeking exists somehere in these forums, but I can't locate it here or in Apple's Help. Thanks in advance for your advice.
I am finding it hard to figure out which format to use for a new project. My confusion probably stems from the fact that iMovie is designed primary for use with a DV video camera, but that's not where I am starting from.
I have a bunch of mpeg-4 video clips that I imported using EyeTV from old VHS tapes. I can convert them to DV, but it takes a long time and the files are obviously MUCH larger. I notice that I can start an iMovie project in mpeg 4 format. Can I remain in the MPEG-4 format throughout the editing process and then burn with iDVD or Toast 7 with good results? (That it to say, similar in quality to transcoding to DV and working in that format.)
Thanks,
Greg

Can I remain in the MPEG-4 format throughout the editing process and then burn with iDVD or Toast 7 with good results?
I honestly don't know.
Why not do both with the same clip and see for yourself? You need two projects in iMovie, but you can add both to the same iDVD project. It will only cost you a DVD-R disc.

Suggestions for a good intermediate format for HDV?

If I read in video from my Sony HDV camcorder (at "Full" size), it is converted from the original HDV format to the AIC format. I'm finding that AIC files sizes are about 45 GB/hour, so 11 tapes will fill a 500 GB drive. This file size is really too big to be very practical, so I'm looking for another intermediate codec that will yield smaller file sizes.
I used QT Pro to convert an AIC test clip to the h.264 format. Here's what I have found so far. I set the Quality slider halfway between "medium" and "high". The resulting clip was very close in quality to the original AIC. There were some subtle differences in areas of low contrast, but it would be difficult to say which was "better". So as far as quality goes, this setting seems good. (Using the medium setting resulted in video that was clearly worse than the original, although not bad by any means.) The file size corresponded to 10.7 GB/h, or about 4X smaller than the original AIC.
However, using this h.264 clip in iMovie 08 was hopeless: Any action on the clip lead to the spinning cursor for a few seconds, and the skimming was hopelessly jerky and slow. The reason, I found, was that QT was inserting only occasional keyframes (I had Keyframes every... set to Automatic; not sure how often this will put in a keyframe, but I understand that in HDV it's every 15 frames), so that this h.264 clip was really no more editable than raw HDV would have been. So I started experimenting with how often the keyframes are put in and found the following:
<pre>_Keyframe every: GB/h Skimming quality_
Every frame 24.3 Good; not as smooth as 960 V 540, but acceptable
Every 2 19.0 Useable but a little jerky
Every 8 14.7 (like HDV) Pretty jerky. Usable, but would not be fun to use
Every 15(?) 10.7 Hopeless.
</pre>
My question, then, is whether there's some other scheme of compressing the AIC files to another format that iMovie 08 can use, while keeping the image quality high and allowing for smooth scrubbing. (Using keyframes every frame is not a bad choice, since it does reduce the file size by nearly a factor of two. But is there something even better?)
I should add that the compression takes roughly 8 hours for a 1 hour AIC file. This would be OK with me, since I can just run it over night. (MacBook Pro @ 2.2 GHz)

Dan, there has been alot of discussion over this over the past 24 hours. I read the threads and try to decide based on the opinions of all of us. Gosh, amongst us all, we could author a fanatastic "how to" and "what works" book. I know you are anxious about what to do that is best, but honestly the best advice I can give you is just read the threads and see what viewers rate. I have my opinions, but shucks, that is only based on my short term experience, and I am still learning everyday from other postings. Go for the reading and then take alook. Be advised though, the stores are not up in stock compared to the websites. Good luck!

Best format for HDV footage online

I'm wondering what format people are using to export their HDV footage for online consumption.
I've tried all the preset avilable in PP CS3 and either the quality sucks or the file size is way too big.
I've seen a bunch of HDV footage online and some incredible looking video (really HDV quality looking) but can't seem to get the correct settings to achieve that.
It is also possible I don't understand all the pull down kinds of things. I'm shooting at 30f. The footage is primarily intended for online/computer rather than HDTV.
Also does smaller dimensions automatically mean reduced quality? I've seem some great looking HD quality videos online and the "HD" quality is quite apparent.

Steve,
Dimensions that will be effective (for online purposes, assuming the visitor has a high bandwidth connection).
I believe 1/4 the original size of HDV will be a good starting place. So that's 480x 270 (or is it 360x270).
That's the other thing, I see some HDV online that seem wider than others. Is that because they were shot using 24f?
I've tried the various formats the media encoder allows for. I'm not really happy with the resulting quality of any of the formats. As mentioned to Christopher, the smaller I make the dimensions the worse the quality gets.
The Quicktime format in particular sucks (at least with encoded using PP CS3). The resulting video looks completely washed out and artificial). I have seen other people post their footage using quicktime and it looks great (no color correction).
The other question is: Seing that the main intent is for online purposes, should I shoot at 720p instead?

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Hi,
I am trying to figure out the best format to use for viewing movies on the computer. I used to save projects as MPEG 2 before moving to Mac. MPEG 4/H264 doesn't seem to offer the same quality and DV is just too big. Am I missing something or is there a better format to use?
Thanks,

It depends on what form your movies are in to begin with. The mpeg-2 transport stream (.m2t or .m2ts or .ts files) is very nice to view and to store since it doesn't normally save each and every frame, but instead stores changes in the frame (as I understand it). Now one problem is that you can't edit. For easily editable formats, take quicktime on a make. Quicktime is just a container; .mov just means it's a quicktime form but can be encoded using AIC, mpeg4, or whatever. The Apple Intermediate Codec (AIC) is a good codec to use with Quicktime. One problem is that if you take a video in mpeg-2 transport stream, which can support HD, it is much bigger in QT.
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Does this help? Perhaps I'm missing your application...
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REPORT ZAMOUNT_CONVERSION.
DATA : RESULT1(20).
PARAMETERS : NUM TYPE P DECIMALS 2.
DATA : num2 type STRING.
DATA : col_amt(20) type n,"15
         col_b type i,
         num_1(20) type C,"15
         Length type i.
num_1 = num.
write : 'default format      :',num.
uline.
skip.
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ELSEIF NUM < 999999999 AND NUM >= 9999999.
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       else.
         write :/'amount indian format:',col_amt.
      endif.
ELSEIF NUM < 9999999 AND NUM >= 99999.
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       condense col_amt .
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ELSEIF NUM < 99999.
   data : dumy(10) type c.
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Dear All,
We are developing a travel tour idea for different locations within the US. Tour content can include video, audio, images and text, as well as maps and locations. We want to make our tours "in-depth" so that people can spend good quality time traveling a short distance and exploring "in-depth" rather than travelling long distances and giving only casual interest to what they see.
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It depends on your requirement. Base on my experience, VM or website all could meet your requirement. From your description, You could use azure website to host your php website (http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/documentation/articles/web-sites-php-configure/).
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Hope it helps.
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Hey, I'm glad I found you guys. This problem has been messing up my workflow for over a year. Maybe you can help:
I'm shooting HDV with Sony HD1000, capturing with HDV split, editing in Premiere. (So far, so good) Problem is, exporting from premiere (HDV 60i project) produces "squashed" and letter-boxed video, and my graphics and titles are "mis-aligned" with the video. It's like premiere scales down my video files, letter-boxes them, but leaves graphics untouched, which of course throws everything off. My only work around is to edit in an NTSC project, and scale down every single video clip myself, which yields lots of rendering. I thought I solved the problem, by importing the entire premiere project into after effects. Export worked great, no loss of quality, but after effects doesn't recognize premiere time-remapping, titles or wipe transitions (and has issues with .m2t audio)!
I've tried every form of exporting from an hdv project (adobe media encoder, straight to encore). ALWAYS squashes and letter-boxes the video files, while leaving the graphics/titles as is (now appearing larger than they did in the program monitor and less crisp.)
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