Arch64 + Nvidia 9500M GS + Metacity + compositing problems?

Hello All,
Is anyone else experienciing problems with the above combination? (Metacity compositing, not compiz!) I turned on metacity compositing and I experienced terrible lag and high cpu utilization. Disabling metacity compositing fixes the problems.
I am not sure if it indeed affected the situation but I experienced the high cpu utilization while running firefox 3 beta 5.

I already tried using the pkg1 version, but the same thing happened. now, this time i tried compiling it with the correct nvidia-utils version. but still the same thing hapened. Ill attach my PKGBUILDS.
PKGBUILD nvidia
PKGBUILD nvidia-utils
btw: nvidia-utils complied just fine.
2nd Edit:
I saw this error on the compiling screen.
test -e include/linux/autoconf.h -a -e include/config/auto.conf || ( \
echo; \
echo " ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid."; \
echo " include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing."; \
echo " Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it."; \
echo; \
/bin/false)
ok, I've tried running "make oldconfig && make prepare" but "make prepare" fails with the following:
bash-3.2# make prepare
CHK include/linux/version.h
CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `missing-syscalls'. Stop.
make: *** [prepare0] Error 2
do you mind, running it again to check if that happens to you?. Thank you
Last edited by Ekimino (2008-09-10 22:30:50)

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