Arrival of Sandy Bridge processors ?

I am in the market for a new laptop, and loving my T-series machines at work, am considering getting a W-series for home.  Seems there will a number of good things coming from the new Sandy Bridge-based Intel processors, including a marginal speed increase, but superior power management and the inclusion of the Intel on-die GPU for the quad-cores allowing Optimus.
Is there any current speculation on when Lenovo will introduce the i7-2630QM or other new Sandy Bridge processors in the W-series (W510, or a new W520) ?
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ThinkPads are not affected:- http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-76673
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