Artefacts in JPEGS.

I see ALOT of artifacts in jpegs, if shot in jpeg I see them even inside lightroom, if shot I raw I see the artifacts them I export to jpeg. I gives a strange "shadow" or extra line around every straight line in the picture. Is looks ugly. http://uu.pean.org/junk/jpegmek.png This is a screenshot of lightroom zoomed in on a jpeg 1:1. The exact same thing shows up on exported (to jpeg) raw-files.
I cant use pictures from lightroom in print because if this.

Two causes for this.
I. too much highlight recovery or too much shadow fill. You would see this on the screen already in the RAW file zoomed 1:1. The solution is simply too back off on those a little.
II. There is a bad scaling algorithm used in Lightroom. It can lead to ghost lines on high contrast edges. See these links:
http://lagemaat.blogspot.com/2008/08/resize-artefacts.html
http://lagemaat.blogspot.com/2008/08/lightroom-artefacts-even-show-up-when.html

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