Artist for sorting issues

Hi,
I have more and more Asian artists on my iTunes player and for the accuracy of last fm scrobbling I'm using the Asian alphabets, but as I can't read (and memorize) Asian alphabets I use the romanized equivalents in the "for sorting" ("pour le tri" in French) fields, BUT we can't enter an artist name for sorting for several tracks at the same time like we can for the artist and title fields, that's a big issue, so for now I use the "artist of the album" instead of "artist for sorting", do Apple plan to fix the limited use of the "for sorting" feature?
Best.

There is a way of entering sort fields on multiple tracks.
First enter and save the information in one track and save it.
The select the track and right click, you will discover an apply sort field option which gives several ways of adding the sort field to other tracks.
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I just got a 80GB iPod classic for Christmas and I have noticed some annoying differences between iTunes cover flow and iPod cover flow:
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Hello,
I know this issue has been posted several times and without any real solutions. But I'm going to ask again anyway in case the magical hacking gnomes have found a work-around.
I have many sorting issues. There seems to be a lot of kvetching on here already about how Front Row sorts TV shows. But not only do my shows come up backwards within seasons, in some cases seasons themselves are out of order. For example, I have all 3 seasons of 30 Rock (purchased through iTMS) and they go season 1, season 3, season 2. Several other shows with multiple seasons are the same.
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