AS Java Stack as Add-in to ABAP Stack in case of Dual Instance

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Hi
We are upgrading from SRM 3.0 to 5.0.
We will need to install JAVA stack as add-in to ABAP stack. SRM 5.0
need both ABAP and JAVA stack (becuase of integrated ITS and IPC).
We have one box for DEV and QA and they are installed as separate
instance (dual instance).
Can we install JAVA stack for both instance separately?
Or do we have to split the dual instancing development system into two
separate standalone system
Please advise
Regards
Manisha

Hi Mike
Thanks for your response.
We do not have MCOD installation.
Our DEV and QA installed on same physical same server but they they their own database and separate instance of ABAP stack.
Some concern have been raised that if we install JAVA stack as add-in on DEV instance, QA instance will be impacted. Because you can not have two separate JAVA stack on same server.
Please advise if above concern is true
Regards
Manisha

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AS Java Stack as Add-in to ABAP Stack

We are upgrading SRM 3.0 to 5.0.
We will need to install JAVA stack as add-in to ABAP stack. SRM 5.0 need both ABAP and JAVA stack.
We have one box for DEV and QA and they are installed as separate instance (dual instance).
Can we install JAVA stack for both instance separately?
Or do we have to split the dual instancing development system into two separate standalone system
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Hi Manisha,
If the box is properly sized I feel that in the same box itself you can have 2 java instances (just you have to take care of the instance number).
Also another point which you can consider is that whether your platform is 32 bit ot 64 bit.
So if it is 32 bit what I recommend is to use new hardware and seperate the instances.
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Hi Stephen,
I think Java Standalone is the only (official) option you have, I don't know the way of physically separating J2EE add-in from ABAP stack in dual-stack systems (you can separate CI from DB, or SCS in the cluster env but not add-in from ABAP).
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Installing Java add-in on ABAP Stack

Hello Gurus,
We have recently upgrade from SAP R/3 4.7 ext. 20 SR2 to ECC 6.0 SR3 on Solaris platform using Oracle 10g. We are on Non-unicode system and on Single Stack i.e. AS ABAP only.
Now as new requirement comes up in organization, we need to install additional Java Stack on upgraded system. Please help me in provide some details to proceed further.
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> We have recently upgrade from SAP R/3 4.7 ext. 20 SR2 to ECC 6.0 SR3 on Solaris platform using Oracle 10g. We are on Non-unicode system and on Single Stack i.e. AS ABAP only.
>
> Now as new requirement comes up in organization, we need to install additional Java Stack on upgraded system. Please help me in provide some details to proceed further.
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=> 64 bit AIX Kernel
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=> Stack limit     = 4294967296
=> Core limit      = 1073741312
=> File size limit = 4294965248
=> Heap address = 0x0x1111d9fe0
=> Stack address = 0x1111b7a80
=> Stack low     = 0x1111b5180
=> Stack high    = 0xffffffffffff2b0
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        praise() at 0x90000000038261c
        raise() at 0x900000000045890
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!!! Invalid stack address encountered: 0x0
!!! Stack corrupted.
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argv[7] = -DSAPSYSTEMNAME=BWD
argv[8] = -DSAPMYNAME=mantas_BWD_84
argv[9] = -DSAPPROFILE=/usr/sap/BWD/SYS/profile/BWD_DVEBMGS84_mantas
argv[10] = -DFRFC_FALLBACK=ON
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It depends on what you want to copy, a system copy will always wipe out the existing target. But if you want to only copy data, you might be able to do a client copy. You can start with this SAP note: [552711 - FAQ: Client copy|https://service.sap.com/sap/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=552711]
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