Ask the Expert: Different Flavors and Design with vPC on Cisco Nexus 5000 Series Switches

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The biggest limitation to a classic port channel communication is that the port channel operates only between two devices. To overcome this limitation, Cisco NX-OS has a technology called virtual port channel (vPC). A pair of switches acting as a vPC peer endpoint looks like a single logical entity to port channel attached devices. The two devices that act as the logical port channel endpoint are actually two separate devices. This setup has the benefits of hardware redundancy combined with the benefits offered by a port channel, for example, loop management.
vPC technology is the main factor for success of Cisco Nexus® data center switches such as the Cisco Nexus 5000 Series, Nexus 7000 Series, and Nexus 2000 Series Switches.
This event is focused on discussing all possible types of vPC along-with best practices, failure scenarios, Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) recommendations and troubleshooting
Vishal Mehta is a customer support engineer for the Cisco Data Center Server Virtualization Technical Assistance Center (TAC) team based in San Jose, California. He has been working in TAC for the past 3 years with a primary focus on data center technologies, such as the Cisco Nexus 5000 Series Switches, Cisco Unified Computing System™ (Cisco UCS®), Cisco Nexus 1000V Switch, and virtualization. He presented at Cisco Live in Orlando 2013 and will present at Cisco Live Milan 2014 (BRKCOM-3003, BRKDCT-3444, and LABDCT-2333). He holds a master’s degree from Rutgers University in electrical and computer engineering and has CCIE® certification (number 37139) in routing and switching, and service provider.
Nimit Pathak is a customer support engineer for the Cisco Data Center Server Virtualization TAC team based in San Jose, California, with primary focus on data center technologies, such as Cisco UCS, the Cisco Nexus 1000v Switch, and virtualization. Nimit holds a master's degree in electrical engineering from Bridgeport University, has CCNA® and CCNP® Nimit is also working on a Cisco data center CCIE® certification While also pursuing an MBA degree from Santa Clara University.
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Hello Gustavo
Please see my responses to your questions:
Yes almost all routing protocols use Multicast to establish adjacencies. We are dealing with two different type of traffic –Control Plane and Data Plane.
Control Plane: To establish Routing adjacency, the first packet (hello) is punted to CPU. So in the case of triangle routed VPC topology as specified on the Operations Guide Link, multicast for routing adjacencies will work. The hellos packets will be exchanged across all 3 routers and adjacency will be formed over VPC links
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/datacenter/nexus5000/sw/operations/n5k_L3_w_vpc_5500platform.html#wp999181
Now for Data Plane we have two types of traffic – Unicast and Multicast.
The Unicast traffic will not have any forwarding issues, but because the Layer 3 ECMP and port channel run independent hash calculations there is a possibility that when the Layer 3 ECMP chooses N5k-1 as the Layer 3 next hop for a destination address while the port channel hashing chooses the physical link toward N5k-2. In this scenario,N5k-2 receives packets from R with the N5k-1 MAC as the destination MAC.
Sending traffic over the peer-link to the correct gateway is acceptable for data forwarding, but it is suboptimal because it makes traffic cross the peer link when the traffic could be routed directly.
For that topology, Multicast Traffic might have complete traffic loss due to the fact that when a PIM router is connected to Cisco Nexus 5500 Platform switches in a vPC topology, the PIM join messages are received only by one switch. The multicast data might be received by the other switch.
The Loop avoidance works little different across Nexus 5000 and Nexus 7000.
Similarity: For both products, loop avoidance is possible due to VSL bit
The VSL bit is set in the DBUS header internal to the Nexus.
It is not something that is set in the ethernet packet that can be identified. The VSL bit is set on the port asic for the port used for the vPC peer link, so if you have Nexus A and Nexus B configured for vPC and a packet leaves Nexus A towards Nexus B, Nexus B will set the VSL bit on the ingress port ASIC. This is not something that would traverse the peer link.
This mechanism is used for loop prevention within the chassis.
The idea being that if the port came in the peer link from the vPC peer, the system makes the assumption that the vPC peer would have forwarded this packet out the vPC-enabled port-channels towards the end device, so the egress vpc interface's port-asic will filter the packet on egress.
Differences:  In Nexus 5000 when it has to do L3-to-L2 lookup for forwarding traffic, the VSL bit is cleared and so the traffic is not dropped as compared to Nexus 7000 and Nexus 3000.
It still does loop prevention but the L3-to-L2 lookup is different in Nexus 5000 and Nexus 7000.
For more details please see below presentation:
https://supportforums.cisco.com/sites/default/files/session_14-_nexus.pdf
DCI Scenario:  If 2 pairs are of Nexus 5000 then separation of L3/L2 links is not needed.
But in most scenarios I have seen pair of Nexus 5000 with pair of Nexus 7000 over DCI or 2 pairs of Nexus 7000 over DCI. If Nexus 7000 are used then L3 and L2 links are required for sure as mentioned on above presentation link.
Let us know if you have further questions.
Thanks,
Vishal

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    Effective WAN Capacity = 1 / (1-% Reduction Excluding Pass-Through)
    % Reduction Excluding Pass-Through = (Original Excluding Pass-Through - Optimized) / (Original Excluding Pass-Through)
    2)what is reduction % excluding and including passthrough
    Looking at the formulas given above might help you understand. The one is a reduction ratio compared to only the original traffic that is optimized. The other is a reduction ratio compared to all original traffic, whether it is optimized or not. So, if you want to know what kind of optimization you are getting for the traffic that you configured to have optimized, look at the "excluding pass-through" numbers. If you want to know the positive effect that optimization is having on your full traffic load, take a look at the "including pass-through" numbers.
    3)What is effectivity capacity including and excluding passthrough ?
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    5)How to show that the bandwidth utilization has decreased by which %.
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    With Ron Hanson
    Welcome to the Cisco Support Community Ask the Expert conversation. This is an opportunity to learn and ask questions from Cisco expert Ron Hanson about the RF Gateway 1 (RFGW1) including installation, operation, configuration, and troubleshooting.
    Ron Hanson is a customer support engineer in the Technical Assistance Center, where he supports major RF Gateway 1 customers as part of the Service Providers Video team. He started working with the RF Gateway before its general release in 2008, and worked in the field on large Gateway deployments before joining product support. Hanson has been in the cable TV industry for 38 years. He previously spent 22 years at Scientific-Atlanta, which was acquired by Cisco in 2007. He holds two joint patents and is certified as a Cisco Optical Specialist. 
    Remember to use the rating system to let Ron know if you have received an adequate response. 
    Ron might not be able to answer each question due to the volume expected during this event. Remember that you can continue the conversation on the Service Provider sub-community discussion forum shortly after the event. This event lasts through Sept 7, 2012. Visit this forum often to view responses to your questions and the questions of other community members.

    Hi John,
    Thanks for your reply.  The process of moving a license to another gateway can be done by the customer on the web site named HESULE  https://online.sciatl.com/license-it/.  You will need the HOST ID which can be found on the SYSTEM/License management tab. The HOST ID is essentially the 7 digit serial number with all leading zeros removed.
    Be sure to use Firefox when logging in.  Entering your email is important because the new license will be sent back to this address.
    In the License management tab, on the gateway you wish to remove the license from, record the 32 digit validation key number to the right of the license you wish to transfer.
    Go to HESULE and start the transfer process.  Hesule is very secure - therfore you must "prove" to Hesule the license has been removed from the first chassis.  Hesule will issue you a new license with the license you wish to transfer removed.  When you load this new license and new validation key will come up on the screen.  Go back to Hesule and enter this key to prove the license has been removed.  Hesule will then email you another new license containing the license you are transfering. Load this license on the new RFGW1 and the process is complete.
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    Thank you   RON HANSON

  • Ask the Expert: FSPF Concepts and Troubleshooting in Cisco SAN Environments

                With Upinder Sujlana
    Welcome to the Cisco Support Community Ask the Expert conversation. This is an opportunity to learn and ask questions about FSPF, VSAN interaction, load balancing, and troubleshooting with Upinder Sujlana.
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    Remember to use the rating system to let Upinder know if you have received an adequate response. 
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    Hi Evan,
    You can use my favorite command as below to find out the cost and check what path traffic will take. Here is a example :
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    VSAN     Number          Dest Domain          Route Cost          Next hops
    1                   0x01(1)                    1000                  fc1/2
    1                   0xEF(239)                  1000                  fc1/1
    1                   0xED(238)                  2000                  fc1/1
                                                                         fc1/2
    This shows the total cost of all links.
    The next hop (238) has two interfaces. This indicates that both paths will be used during load sharing. Up to sixteen paths can be used by FSPF with a Cisco MDS 9000 Family switch.
    http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5989/prod_troubleshooting_guide_chapter09186a008067a306.html#wp126591
    HTH,
    ~upinder

  • Ask the Expert:Concepts, Configuration and Troubleshooting Layer 2 MPLS VPN – Any Transport over MPLS (AToM)

    With Vignesh R. P.
    Welcome to the Cisco Support Community Ask the Expert conversation.This is an opportunity to learn and ask questions about  concept, configuration and troubleshooting Layer 2 MPLS VPN - Any Transport over MPLS (AToM) with Vignesh R. P.
    Cisco Any Transport over MPLS (AToM) is a solution for transporting Layer 2 packets over an MPLS backbone. It enables Service Providers to supply connectivity between customer sites with existing data link layer (Layer 2) networks via a single, integrated, packet-based network infrastructure: a Cisco MPLS network. Instead of using separate networks with network management environments, service providers can deliver Layer 2 connections over an MPLS backbone. AToM provides a common framework to encapsulate and transport supported Layer 2 traffic types over an MPLS network core.
    Vignesh R. P. is a customer support engineer in the Cisco High Touch Technical Support center in Bangalore, India, supporting Cisco's major service provider customers in routing and MPLS technologies. His areas of expertise include routing, switching, and MPLS. Previously at Cisco he worked as a network consulting engineer for enterprise customers. He has been in the networking industry for 8 years and holds CCIE certification in the Routing & Switching and Service Provider tracks.
    Remember to use the rating system to let Vignesh know if you have received an adequate response. 
    Vignesh might not be able to answer each question due to the volume expected during this event. Remember that you can continue the conversation on the  Service Provider sub-community discussion forum shortly after the event. This event lasts through through September 21, 2012. Visit this forum often to view responses to your questions and the questions of other community members.

    Hi Tenaro,
    AToM stands for Any Transport over MPLS and it is Cisco's terminology used for Layer 2 MPLS VPN or Virtual Private Wire Service. It is basically a Layer 2 Point-to-Point Service. AToM basically supports various Layer 2 protocols like Ethernet, HDLC, PPP, ATM and Frame Relay.
    The customer routers interconnect with the service provider routers at Layer 2. AToM eliminates the need for the legacy network from the service provider carrying these kinds of traffic and integrates this service into the MPLS network that already transports the MPLS VPN traffic.
    AToM is an open standards-based architecture that uses the label switching architecture of MPLS and can be integrated into any network that is running MPLS. The advantage to the customer is that they do not need to change anything. Their routers that are connecting to the service provider routers can still use the same Layer 2 encapsulation type as before and do not need to run an IP routing protocol to the provider edge routers as in the MPLS VPN solution.
    The service provider does not need to change anything on the provider (P) routers in the core of the MPLS network. The intelligence to support AToM sits entirely on the PE routers. The core label switching routers (LSRs) only switch labeled packets, whereas the edge LSRs impose and dispose of labels on the Layer 2 frames.
    Whereas pseudowire is a connection between the PE routers and emulates a wire that is carrying Layer 2 frames. Pseudowires use tunneling. The Layer 2 frames are encapsulated into a labeled (MPLS) packet. The result is that the specific Layer 2 service—its operation and characteristics—is emulated across a Packet Switched Network.
    Another technology that more or less achieves the result of AToM is L2TPV3. In the case of L2TPV3 Layer 2 frames are encapsulated into an IP packet instead of a labelled MPLS packet.
    Hope the above explanation helps you. Kindly revert incase of further clarification required.
    Thanks & Regards,
    Vignesh R P

  • Ask The Expert: Understanding, Implementing, and Troubleshooting Cisco Prime Network

    Ask questions and learn about Cisco Prime Network with Cisco experts Vignesh Rajendran Praveen and Jaminder Singh Bali.
    Cisco Prime Network is and  Cisco Prime Network provides cost-effective device operation, administration and network fault management for today’s complex and evolved programmable networks (EPNs). It is a single solution to support both the traditional physical network components, as well as compute infrastructure, and the virtual elements found in data centers. Automated configuration and change management combined with advanced troubleshooting and diagnostics greatly help service providers enable proactive service assurance. Additionally, the flexible and extensible architecture is designed to support the multivendor environment, helping to lower operational costs.
    This event runs January 5 through January 16, 2015.
    Vignesh Rajendran Praveen is a High Touch Engineer with the Focused Technical Services team supporting Cisco's major Service Provider customers in Routing, Switching, Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) technologies and Cisco Prime Network related issues. Previously at Cisco he has worked as a Network Consulting Engineer for Enterprise Customers and as a Customer Support Engineer for Service Provider customers. He has been in the networking industry for ten years and holds CCIE certification (#34503) in the Routing and Switching as well as Service Provider tracks.
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    Hello Jerome,
    A variety of Cisco devices are supported by the the Cisco Prime Network. I would encourage you to go through the below links on the user guide depending the version of Cisco Prime Network being used.
    "Cisco Prime Network Supported Cisco Virtual Network Elements (VNEs)"
    "Cisco Prime Network Supported Cisco VNEs - Addendum"
    Below is the link for the user guide.
    http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/cloud-systems-management/prime-network/products-user-guide-list.html
    Hope this would help in providing you more clarity.
    ***********Plz do rate this post if you found it helpful*************************
    Thanks & Regards,
    Vignesh R P

  • Ask the Expert: Configuration, Design, and Troubleshooting of Cisco Nexus 1000

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    This is a continuation of the live Webcast.
    Louis Watta is a technical leader in the services organization for Cisco. Watta's primary background is in data center technologies: servers (UNIX, Windows, Linux), switches (MDS, Brocade), storage arrays (EMC, NetApp, HP), network switches (Cisco Catalyst and Cisco Nexus), and enterprise service hypervisors (VMware ESX, Hyper-V, KVM, XEN). As a Technical Leader in Technical Services, Louis currently supports beta and early field trials (EFTs) on new Cisco software and hardware. He has more than 15 years of experience in a wide variety of data center applications and is interested in data center technologies oriented toward data center virtualization and orchestration. Prior to Cisco, Louis was a system administrator for GTE Government Systems. He has a bachelor of science degree in computer science from North Carolina State University. .
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    Right now there is only a few features that are not supported on N1Kv on Hyper-V
    They are VXLAN and QOS Fair Weighted Queuing. We are currently demoing VXLAN functionality at Microsoft TechEd Conference this week in New Orleans. So VXLAN support should be coming soon. I can't give you a specific timeline.
    For Fair Weighted Queuing I'm not sure. In the VMware world we take advantage of NETIOC infrastructure. In the MS world they do not have a NETIOC infrastructure that we can use to create a similar feature.
    Code base parity (as in VMware and Hyper-V VSMs running NXOS 5.x) will happen with the next major N1KV release for ESX.
    Let me know if that doesn't answer your question.
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    I asked myself a question in Ask the expert , answered it and then tried to Search for it. I couldn't find my own question (and answer). (not an expert maybe?)
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