ASM redundancy confusion

Dear All,
o/s:redhat linux 5.6
db:10.2.0.3 with ASMlib
I always thought that ASM redundancy NORMAL will have only 2 failure groups and HIGH will have 3 failure groups.Is this sentence right or wrong because i say this below SQL statement on some website
SQL> create diskgroup DATA_NRML normal redundancy
Failure group flgrp1 disk
‘/dev/rdsk/c3t19d3s4’,‘/dev/rdsk/c3t19d4s4’,‘/dev/rdsk/c3t19d5s4’,
‘/dev/rdsk/c3t19d6s4’
Failure group flgrp2 disk
‘/dev/rdsk/c4t20d3s4’,‘/dev/rdsk/c4t20d4s4’,‘/dev/rdsk/c4t20d5s4’,
‘/dev/rdsk/c4t19ds4’
Failure group flgrp3 disk
/dev/rdsk/c5t21d3s4’,‘/dev/rdsk/c5t21d4s4’,‘/dev/rdsk/c5t21d5s4’,
‘/dev/rdsk/c5t21ds4’
Failure group flgrp4 disk
/dev/rdsk/c6t22d3s4’,‘/dev/rdsk/c6t22d4s4’,‘/dev/rdsk/c6t22d5s4’,
‘/dev/rdsk/c6t22ds4’;
if the above sql statement is correct then how normal redundancy works.
If failure group 1 had disk failure then mirror extents are on failure group 2 which will allow db to run.
If failure group 2 also have disk failure then db will be still up?
Regards

Hi,
-Can there be 3 failure groups in NORMAL redundancy? if yes then 2 diskgroup failure can be tolerated?No.
eg:
FAILGROUP controller1 DISK
   '/devices/diska1','/devices/diska2','/devices/diska3','/devices/diska4'
  FAILGROUP controller2 DISK
   '/devices/diskb1','/devices/diskb2','/devices/diskb3','/devices/diskb4'
FAILGROUP controller3 DISK
   '/devices/diskc1','/devices/diskc2','/devices/diskc3','/devices/diskc4'In this case with normal redundancy is tolerated a loss of one or all disk of one Failgroup at time. If fails disk from two or more failgroups at same time the diskgroup will fail.
see this example:
{message:id=10185895}
-If the 2 diskgroup failure cannot be tolerated then what is the use of adding 3rd failure group?we will go by 2.When I must choose of use different failgroup? When all disk(LUN) on that failgroup share same point failure. eg. (same array, same controller, same storage and so on).
Useful doc:
Use a Simple Disk and Disk Group Configuration
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e10803/config_storage.htm#CDEEFBHG
Use Redundancy to Protect from Disk Failure
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e10803/config_storage.htm#CDEBCDBD
Regards,
Levi Pereira

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    DBWR writes out dirty buffers (changed metadata buffers) from the ASM
    buffer cache to disk.
    PING The PING process measures network latency and has the same
    functionality in RDBMS instances.
    SMON This process is the system monitor and also acts as a liaison to the
    Cluster Synchronization Services (CSS) process (in Oracle Clusterware) for
    node monitoring.
    ARBx These are the slave processes that do the rebalance activity (where x
    is a number).
    KATE The Konductor or ASM Temporary Errands (KATE) process is used
    to process disks online. This process runs in the ASM instance and is started
    only when an offlined disk is onlined.
    CKPT The CKPT process manages cross-instance calls (in RAC).
    GMON This process is responsible for managing the disk-level activities
    (drop/offline) and advancing diskgroup compatibility.
    MARK The Mark Allocation Unit (AU) for Resync Koordinator (MARK)
    process coordinates the updates to the Staleness Registry when the disks go
    offline. This process runs in the RDBMS instance and is started only when
    disks go offline in ASM redundancy diskgroups.
    HTH
    Antonio NAVARRO

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