Aspect ratio on new TV

Just purchased a Sony KDL40ex503 TV and cannot get the aspect ratio sorted from the BT vision box. I have played with all the options on both the BT box and the TV to no avail. On all options besides 4.3 the picture is bigger than the screen, thus not showing the outer edges (hope that makes sense)
Any help is much appreciated

Connection is as follows:
connection is via hdmi from BT box to TV. No zoom option is set and I have gone through all the aspect options on the TV and BT box to trya nd rectify this, but the picture doesnt seem to change at all. The only time I can see a change on the screen is when I select 4:3. This obviously reduces the image size on the screen. But when I select any of the other options the picture is bigger than the screen. I have changed options on both the TV and BT box to match eachother, i have changed options on one or the other and still no improvment.
The picture from the TV's built in freeview is perfect as is displays from connected blueray player and PS3

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