Assign new colour profile to jpeg without recompressing

hi, i got a photo cd back and all the photos have the wrong profile assigned to them. something called SDP. the images all look very dull. a previous photo cd from the same place had generic RGB assigned to them and the colours are great. also when i assign generic rgb to the new photos the colours come to life and look how i'd expect them too.
But the only problem is then i need to save them. i don't want to redude the quality of the images by saving as a jpeg. is there a way to assign a colour profile to an image without resaving all the information in the image.
Any help would be amazing.
thanks

Martin:
No. The file must be saved if you want the profile information added to it. Unless those files will be used for very large prints, i.e. greater that 8 x 10, the effects of the compression in a save will be very difficult to observe.
What are you using to change the color profiles?
Do you Twango?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.

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    Nothing unexpected is happening here.
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    ICC tagged image operations have been divorced from colour settings
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    While on USM and gamma, there are some L* based RGB working spaces such as L*RGB or the new ECI RGB which behave the same way as Lab mode Lightness channel sharpening (when set to Luminosity blend). As the response of the Lightness channel is different to linear gamma and standard gamma encoded spaces, for some image content one may be preferred over the other as the processing space.
    I would still like to explore the original topic/post before submitting a bug report. How do you think things should work?
    Regards,
    Stephen Marsh

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